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[Seedlingmtl]

Do you have a fan blowing lightly on them? Helps them grow strong.

Not yet....but yeah I use a fan as soon as I think they can handle it. They have been above soil for less than 2 days. Also....the window doesn't get direct sunlight. If they are good to stay there I will...I just think having them under cfls that are up close directly above would be better....no?

 

[weenmeoff]

Not yet....but yeah I use a fan as soon as I think they can handle it. They have been above soil for less than 2 days. Also....the window doesn't get direct sunlight. If they are good to stay there I will...I just think having them under cfls that are up close directly above would be better....no?

Yes, better. It'll keep the stretch down.

 

[dr.h00k]

...Yup...some 5000-6500 k cfl's/led's will work well to fix that gangly reach for the sun...dollar store is usually a good source for best bang for the buck if they carry that temperature...cheerz... ...h00k......

 

[Seedlingmtl]

I have a list going to pick up this weekend. One is a fan to move air from one end of the apartment to the other.

...Yup...some 5000-6500 k cfl's/led's will work well to fix that gangly reach for the sun...dollar store is usually a good source for best bang for the buck if they carry that temperature...cheerz... ...h00k......

Yup! I got a Dollerama and a small bonsai shop that has a selection of cfls 1 block away. After I make a water run tomorrow morning....I will be picking up some light.

 

[Seedlingmtl]

I am gonna be doing an update on the flower tent later today when the lights go on. They should be ready for a feed. I should have the new seedling station set up by then as well.

The new seedlings are doing great. They are obviously loving this soil. I started another Nepal jam yesterday and this morning I could see a tiny bit of tap poking out....so I dropped her into the fourth pot. Since two are looking a bit tall already I added a small desk fan that is very gently rocking them back and forth.

 

[weenmeoff]

Rock-a-by seedling.....desk fan and all!

Hey Seedling! Have a great weekend!

 

[Seedlingmtl]

Rock-a-by seedling.....desk fan and all!

Hey Seedling! Have a great weekend!

Thanks Ween! I am gonna have a blast. I don't feel so tired cause I haven't been working tons of overtime and back to back long weekends....I should actually get a lot done!

 

[Duggan]

Top of the mornin to ya Seedling....

 

[Seedlingmtl]

Top of the mornin to ya Seedling....

Right back at ya! Just ordered up three 5 gallon jugs......scared to know how much I am gonna go through with 4 big pots!

When you are ready I want to pick your brain on a couple things.

The first one is an easy one. I really don't know if I have enough kit soil to fill 4 of the big pots I got. 2 of my shops stock them and they both claim they are 10 gallon...it is the big one I got going right now. Anyway....the question is if they don't get filled up to the top can I just top dress with straight Promix or Promix mixed with some ewc?

The second question is about drying and curing. I need to start brainstorming what I am gonna need to do in 4 weeks!

 

[Duggan]

Yup,..no worriez...u are 'on point' bud! Yes, it's totally OK to top up the pots with straight PM. Do not add EWC's at this stage , just to get the soil level up OK,..best to add PM. A bale of Pm (a full kit) will easily fill 4 , 10 gal. pots . No problem , ok.
As far as wat you will need in 4 weeks. In wat way are you asking bud? Did your 4th seed split yet for ya?

 

[Seedlingmtl]

As far as wat you will need in 4 weeks. In wat way are you asking bud? Did your 4th seed split yet for ya?

Yeah! The tap was just starting to poke out of the shell and she is in the kit soil as of 6am this morning. I am pretty excited about this Nepal Jam.

I guess the question is there are tons of different advice regarding drying and curing. I know you what your produce looks and tastes like so I would love to hear how you get there.

I have read the famous "low and slow" cure thread here. Wondering if you stick them in the fridge....if you monitor the humidity inside the jars? Stuff like that.

I am gonna use the magic search function and see if I can dig up some info today. Try and find what some of the Brix Gurus have to say on the subject.

 

[Duggan]

Ya,..the way i dry and cure is pretty boring TBH! Nothing fancy,..no low and slow or anything like that.
Ive been doing it the same way for a very long time and it suits me just fine. You are right...there are lots of different ideas and methods out there and lots of peeps willing to tell u how they do it. My method is easy and , like i said , very basic , but it always works great for me. Cheers eh.

 

[Seedlingmtl]

Ya,..the way i dry and cure is pretty boring TBH! Nothing fancy,..no low and slow or anything like that.
Ive been doing it the same way for a very long time and it suits me just fine. You are right...there are lots of different ideas and methods out there and lots of peeps willing to tell u how they do it. My method is easy and , like i said , very basic , but it always works great for me. Cheers eh.

You don't wanna say? I kinda like simple and straightforward at least for this next harvest. I would have to buy a new fridge for the low and slow method.....and that is not gonna happen in a month. I would be interested in trying it out eventually though.

On another note I picked up a couple 100w 5000k bulbs....I forgot I need another power bar, so I got to go back out to the humidity and pick one up.

 

[Seedlingmtl]

Made it work without the power bar.....I think it looks alright....

 

[Seedlingmtl]

.....and more good news. My pocket scope arrived just now. It looks not bad at all for under $20. It is tiny and works pretty well.

 

[Seedlingmtl]

Just tried it out on the DP......it is definitely working quite well.

 

[Duggan]

Seedling , yup can tell you how i do it,..but like i said, it's boring and basic. Oh,..and with your new bulb there....if i were you , i would get a timer on it , and set it to 16/8 . That will accustom them to those hrs. Doesn't have to be today but soon, OK. Also have the light/s come on at night , when it's cooler,...u know the deal bud.
With drying and curing your first crop,..good idea to learn how it's done at it's simplest , basic way OK.


-Give plants one entire timer cycle with timer and lights OFF! (just miss the very last lights on cycle is all.)
- Just chop down entire plant/s at soil level in the 'dark' (u know why right?)
-Cut one or two branches off at a time
-Trim off all fans and leaves you can see where the stem attaches (easiest looking from bottom,up.)
-Then from looking from top, down, trim off all small and single bladed leaves without 'digging' into the bud.
- If not washing, set aside and move on to next branch
-Trim all branches the same leaving ALL buds and colas intact,..on the branch.
-Hang from strings in the tent/GR leaving space between...u know ...
-Leave on exhaust fan/filter combo but turn OFF ALL other circ fans.
-Buds and colas should be ready to start jaring after 4 or 5 days.....start checking at day #3.
-Remove all branches from strings and start trimming all buds off into bowls/ containers.
-When all done trimming buds off, weigh produce.
-Start loosely filling jars leaving some air at top.
-Put lids on , but not tight...just threaded on a bit.
-Check them after 24 hrs...they will feel very moist, more so , than the day before.
-Remove lids for a few hrs/day, always checking how they feel. Do not leave lids on if produce feels wet, or really moist. -This is Ok, just leave lids off until you feel the buds getting a lil crispy dry, then put lids on again for another 24 hrs.
-Keep doing this over a week or two letting the buds finish drying very slowly .
-Eventually the lids can be left on permanently.

I should add, that when you trim off all the buds...you should be able to cut one up, loosely roll a 'J'...it should burn OK, indicating enough moisture has left the buds but still has some deep inside the 'wood' of them. We want some moisture left in them, but NOT too much OK. This lil moisture is wat causes the 'cure' to start. Basically the moisture left in the buds after drying needs to be 'sweated' out of them, creating a balanced evenly dried product, which will provide a good, even 'burn'. This is the 'curing' process!

Any really large colas need to be checked and watched closely , as they take longer to dry , of course.
Never jar it all up and forget about them. The jars need to be monitored daily for the first couple weeks OK.
Hope this helps Seedling. Is this wat you wanted?

 

[Seedlingmtl]

With drying and curing your first crop,..good idea to learn how it's done at it's simplest , basic way OK.

That is exactly where my mind is at....starting at the basics and trying out some other stuff and build up as I get more experienced.

Oh,..and with your new bulb there....if i were you , i would get a timer on it , and set it to 16/8 . That will accustom them to those hrs. Doesn't have to be today but soon, OK. Also have the light/s come on at night , when it's cooler,...u know the deal bud.

I will always start my lights at 4 or 5pm from now on....it really makes the most sense for me. I got to head out to pick up another basic $30 oscillating fan and a couple other things today...so grabbing a timer is no problem. I am glad it came up!

-Give plants one entire timer cycle with timer and lights OFF! (just miss the very last lights on cycle is all.)
- Just chop down entire plant/s at soil level in the 'dark' (u know why right?)

I understand why we have a full cycle of darkness, but not exactly sure that last bit about chopping down in the dark.

-Put lids on , but not tight...just threaded on a bit.

Does this apply throughout the process? Until you have burped the jars for a few weeks? At what point exactly can you seal them up tight?

Hope this helps Seedling. Is this wat you wanted?

Yup, this is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks a lot for that!

 

[Duggan]

That is exactly where my mind is at....starting at the basics and trying out some other stuff and build up as I get more experienced.



I will always start my lights at 4 or 5pm from now on....it really makes the most sense for me. I got to head out to pick up another basic $30 oscillating fan and a couple other things today...so grabbing a timer is no problem. I am glad it came up!



I understand why we have a full cycle of darkness, but not exactly sure that last bit about chopping down in the dark.



Does this apply throughout the process? Until you have burped the jars for a few weeks? At what point exactly can you seal them up tight?



Yup, this is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks a lot for that!

Yup, All you need is another one of those 20 dollar mech. timers, with the push/pull pins. For our hobby grows , nothing else is needed , unless u have extra coin to throw around......
I like the kind that has a receptacle on each side if possible.
For chopping in the dark...ha, doesn't have to be in the pitch black...just not after the lights have been on for a while OK. Have u ever seen those 'time lapse' videos of a plant , going thru it's light /dark cycle...well, u can see how the leaves , rise and fall over that period. This is the fluids moving in , and out of the plant, from the roots. The plant shed sit's fluid over night because it's simply not needed in the photosynthesis process when it's 'sleeping',...if that makes sense..... Contrary to wat some novice growers believe,..it does NOT increase resin! Resin glands take time to develop and mature , we all know that , so....all it does , is allows us to harvest while a lot of the plants fluids , are still in the root mass.
With the lids,...it's just easier to have them loose, cuz of looking and feeling so often....
Trust me,,,as you get to feel the cured buds, you will see how a nicely cured bud feels ,..that U grew.
After about a week , or so the lids can be left on, BUT that is up to U. The longer the lids are left off, the faster it dries. Remember, it's been dried already, so there isn't much moisture to work with, so after its been jarred, any fresh air accelerates the drying process, so ya gotta watch it. For example, if you leave a freshly jarred bud, out on the counter over night, it will be too dry by morning (but will still smoke great ) We want a very , very slow dry , without inviting mold. Mold will happen if your not diligent in keeping an eye on things.Cheers Seedling.

 

[Seedlingmtl]

Day 30 beginning of week 5

I just clued into how these guys are getting nice pics.....so I am trying it out. Finally you can see a little better what is going on in there. The light penetration seems pretty great. I am loving the look of the frosty leaves.

Enjoy