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Blazinjones
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Thanks Rad for the kind words... I'm a pretty lucky guy... I like to grow plants natural but thats usually cause I was late in my planning and didn't have very large plants in VEG.
Right now I do have some nice VEG plants and am topping many of them (in VEG only) 3rd or 4th node. At this stage they don't even skip a beat and grow 2 or more main colas so by the time in flower they will be a petty big bush 4' tall or more.... now if they grow another main cola and many sometimes grow 2 main colas, then I've got to do some training.
Blaze that main stem looks impressive! If you have a cfl or 2 I'd side light that plant until finish. Won't really matter but it will help the lower buds get fatter at same time as the rest of the plant.
With plants they use "translocation" and move nutrients from the fan leaves to the lower down buds so they will be pretty similar as the main cola for THC and maturation.
Believe it or not, I use Jiffy Peat Pellets to root seeds. I soak in H2o2 and filtered water (1/2 and 1/2) overnight. Next morning into re-hydrated jiffy peat pellets and under the dome they come with (home depot has em now) for spring veggies. I just did 32 seeds ... 31 seedlings in soil... the 1 missing I think I dropped the seed ... there wasn't a seed in the empty pellet. Oh and then when transplanting I rip off the little mesh and into my seedling mix.
Seedling mix: 1/2 EWC & 1/2 cpsm and some aeration if you have it handy (very light soil, cotyledons have all the nutrients the plant needs to get to the hardened off phase (good topic to discuss how that happens!). Then up pot after hardened off into the regular soil mix.
I don't use paper towels for several reasons. One is the chemicals they use to make the paper towels white.... ever drive past a paper mill? I think when I did that the first time, thats when I changed how I did seedlings. The paper towel method is interesting ... it's been around for a very long time. Predated bottled nutrients as it was how I was taught way back in the early 70s... I never got 100% with that method... peat pellets much better.
Grade your success with seedlings:
90-100% - A
80-90% - B
70-80% - C
>70% - D
"Do or die, there is no fail!" Yoda 1982
If we are not in the "A" range something is off...
Here's my setup for seedlings:
Jiffy dome inside a larger dome with a towel under large dome and a heat mat under the towel:
Edit:
Blaze the cloned plant looks fine... the yellow leaf is due to the plant using energy stored there to grow roots. Completely normal... specially when there's a flower on the top there. What you're doing is Re-veg AKA Monstercropping... Look that up.
That's typically how I grow a mother out.... the plant that comes from this in flower .... meh... they don't usually grow normal for some reason. I've tried and failed. But the cuttings from this plant will grow normal and look pretty close to the original doner. Eventually the monstercrop girl will normalize in VEG but it will take sometimes 6 months... and maybe never normalize.
Best time to take cuttings is before flower right at flip to 12/12 or the tops of VEG plants you topped at 3rd or 4th node. I run REG seeds most of the time so taking clones early is a guess at best and that's why take them at flip. I have a better idea if they are female or not... usually 90% sure... at 3rd node there's no way to tell.
awesome info thank u bb umm jus a quick question what is cpsm u mentioned 4 a seedling mix I'm just wondering what it is?? and as for the mainstem looking good which plant were u talking about and also the cfls for side lighting on which plant are u talking about one of my ones in flower cuz if its my purple kush 1 I do already lol I put my t8s up one on each side of the plant hanging vertically I believe I always get confused by vertical and horizontal I believe its vertical tho lol its up hanging up and down not across the top so then it actually reaches those lower bud sites ill be ordering sum mars hydro lights this weekend and I think ill be ordering a few of those lil ufo dome looking ones they r only like 35watts or sumthn so I figured I wud get like 6 of them and put 2on each side of the walls in the tent so it wud be like roughly 280watts for lower buds or do u think I shud just get a few smaller panels like the mars hydo cubes I have now they r like a 150w roughly I'm jus trying to figure out a gud light plan tht wont take a billion plug ins lol I wud rather jus get 1 big light so then only have 1 plug in but then I wont get as much penetration to the bud sites so with more smaller lights I can do tht but then have mre dam plug ins lol ohhhh the joys and struggles of growing I love it all tho actually even the down parts if we didn't have any of the bad parts we wudnt enjoy the gud 1s as much but yea thank u guys for ur support