I have been talking back n forth for a few years with atreum. I'm actually the person that got them to contact and sponsor 420 magazine. They are great group over there and they are trying to learn what growers want and need as they have reached out to me a couple times about my experiences with their lighting. I have had in depth convo with them about this and while I got some good advice it wasn't much help. Don't take this as fact but I think their growing experience may be minimal. Perhaps they will reply to my question i had posted, maybe ill give them a call and see if any new info is available.
Thankyou for the input! I think I may have figured out the issue, I should know on a week or so. I honestly do not think the cloner or cloner environment has been a issue. I think its my veg room n my stupidity. My dark cycle is during hours im not available to check on them, I finally broke down n got a 24 hour thermostat n found during my night time hours the temp drops to low 60s. Im hoping this is the reason my stems are so hard and the rock hard stems are the reason they do not root. I hope! If this next set of plants get the hard stems then it has to be the lights. I pulled 6 gorilla juice clones from my personal garden n stuck in the shop, they are very lush n vibrant. Within 2 days I had clawed leaves n stems were hardening. I threw a heater in with them, just wait n see now.
I agree to. I just mind blown, ive kept the same process for a decade. Only thing that changed was veg lighting. I really been monitoring everything like crazy recently. Only thing I found was low night temp in veg room. I am willing to try higher res temperature but only way I can think to raise it is run the pump 24/7. My ambient temp is high 70s to low 80s. My res temp stats pretty consistently around 72 to 74 though.
Night time cold is probably the enemy here. 4000K LED's are great for cloning but in some areas some growers might need the heat coming out from the bulbs like you said. I agree that this can be the most handy way to go sometimes.
i had no idea such a thing existed. i got tired of messing with bubble bags a long time ago. and with this thing i can do my socks too? sweet.Ran some bubble hash through the washing machine. Not the most efficient way but damn it's easy. Ran it through 160 micron in 25 micron, gonna press into rosin.
