Autos Under A Mars Hydro FC 4800: Soilless & FN Fertilizer, By Farside05

Yellowed out not because they've been fed any less. They're just done. I'll wait for the new AC unit which comes tomorrow so they'll have a chance to dry under a better environment. Plus I don't want a bunch of tell tale odor in the house when I'm gonna have a crew of workers inside all day.

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I'd really like to have harvested these already but it will have to wait until Monday when my schedule has time. As soon as these come down, I'll move the Blueberry Glues I have going in another tent into this one.
 
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wow, such beauties! I'm going back to read the full thread now (no, really!) but I wanted to confirm w/ a user that this diode distribution makes a big diff. I cant see how it would not. In fact I'm surprised this hasnt become industry standard already. All I can think of is that manuf's are leery of losing the commercial vertical market because this setup may mess with the side-by overflow benefit. I recently bought 1100w fixtures with lm301h's and was frustrated I could not find a diode layout like this no matter the price. Nice job @MarsHydro - you're the boss now. Now please build an HVAC/lighting system with an AI that knows when to sacrifice PAR due to heat or when to exhaust. RH% control in there too, please. Gorgeous autos Farside, just bloody magnificent.
 
ReservoirDog said:
...I wanted to confirm w/ a user that this diode distribution makes a big diff. I cant see how it would not. In fact I'm surprised this hasnt become industry standard already. All I can think of is that manuf's are leery of losing the commercial vertical market because this setup may mess with the side-by overflow benefit. I recently bought 1100w fixtures with lm301h's and was frustrated I could not find a diode layout like this no matter the price. Nice job @MarsHydro - you're the boss now. Now please build an HVAC/lighting system with an AI that knows when to sacrifice PAR due to heat or when to exhaust. RH% control in there too, please. Gorgeous autos Farside, just bloody magnificent.
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Page 1, Post 3 I talk about my lux meter results. By having the strips closer to the outside edge and spaced further apart in the center, the @Mars Hydro FC4800 does a good job of evening the light distribution across the footprint.

It runs pretty cool. Even with my AC recently going out, temps were still very manageable. I really don't think that I need to run this light at 100% in my 39"x39". Maybe in a 4'x4' there would be more need. On the next grow I may just top it out at 80% and run it a bit closer if needed. That will cut electric costs and heat even more.
 
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Part 3

Grab your gallon of distilled water.
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Pour your gallon of distilled into the pot.
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Heat your concoction until it just starts to put off a bit of steam, but not boiling, stirring often.
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Allow to cool, then pour the contents back into your empty gallon jug. Label it FN Micros© so you can remember which product is which. You'll end up with a bit more than what will fit in your gallon jug. Ill just add my extras into the smaller container I use for feeding. I like not having to deal with a big gallon jug when I'm dosing feed.
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LOVE. IT. Meuchas Gracias Senor Farside.
FS, I'm a little bit leary of synthetic chelates but not knowledgeable enough to offer an opinion to others. Nonetheless, I am having a go with amino acid-based chelates via MC 2 part and was wondering if you have any experience with these, gossip is fine too provided it's suitably labeled.

Thank you again for the amazing tutorials. Really something there for people to take advantage of, maybe in groups to help the upfront costs. Spreadsheets and photos... amazing the depth of information we can spread so efficiently and what we do with it. I can't think of the last time I went to the library that wasn't just for the washroom! Probably when the kids were, well, still kids.
 
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LOVE. IT. Meuchas Gracias Senor Farside.
FS, I'm a little bit leary of synthetic chelates but not knowledgeable enough to offer an opinion to others. Nonetheless, I am having a go with amino acid-based chelates via MC 2 part and was wondering if you have any experience with these, gossip is fine too provided it's suitably labeled.
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I ran MC's 1 part for a couple years. Had my best results with version 2 of it. Thats the stinky stuff with prills, aka balls. Version 3, the grey, grainy, not stinky stuff, results seemed to drop off. Maybe it was the time of the year/temps in the tent. Maybe it was the strains I was growing at the time. Anyway, I moved on. For what it's worth, Amino acid chelated vs EDTA, I don't know. I doesn't make much difference in my mind. If one is really concerned about synthetic chelates, then I'd think they'd also be concerned about the other synthetic salts and would be doing a full organic grow rather than using any powdered or bottled product.
 
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If one is really concerned about synthetic chelates, then I'd think they'd also be concerned about the other synthetic salts and would be doing a full organic grow rather than using any powdered or bottled product.
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Yeah, that's certainly a reasonable position and I suppose it makes a good 'catch-all', however, there's a significant difference between pesticides and synth nutes, yet the 'organic' label does not discern, but you and I certainly do. If Amino chelates work as advertised it would be a major bonus environmentally for synths. I don't care for the dogma surrounding these products seen at the hobbyist level. The main issue, sustainability-wise, with synths as I see it, is essentially improper/overuse. Used responsibly they're a f&%$g miracle. However, it appears that the EDTA, et al, chelates are problematic as they move through the food chain. With what I know to date it seems to me that synth nutes without synth chelates are very environmentally and economically sound. Because these products are relatively new there aren't tons of papers out there, and I'm also interested in direct growers' experience. I have no experience with MC original, just the 2 part that is kind of a Jack's copy but using amino acid chelates instead. Thanks for your time. Best to you and yours.
 
Congrats on the racks and racks of buds!
 
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Congrats on the racks and racks of buds!
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Thanks. Surprised me a bit on how much was there. Old Mother Hubbard's cupboard was getting bare, so it was much needed.
 
Congratulations on the harvest Farside.
 
Just topped the left two girls.

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Also scored a Bose Cinemate system for the lab. $20 sans remote. A new remote will cost me $15. $35 for a nice Bose system is still a deal. I'll replace the shitty sounding Sony cubes that are in there now. This is the third time I've gotten a deal like that. $25 for a Bose 3-2-1 that's in my bedroom. A Cinemate for the back porch for $40, and now this one for the lab.
 
Amazing what folks sell for pennies on the dollar!
 
Day 32

The girls got the bottoms cleaned up a bit for easier watering and some super cropping. They also got their first full watering (2 gal each) since their transplant. 10ml of each FN product per gal. The back two have more internodal spacing, whereas the fronts are much closer together. So I'd say they are 2 different phenotypes. The front two received no training, similar to the Nirvana Original Glues I'm so fond of. Just top them, tuck a leaf or two, and enjoy the show.

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Will do!
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I like strains where I can sit back and enjoy the show rather than fuss with them a lot. You're welcome to watch the same channel with me.

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Congrats Farside, those were real beauties. Waiting to see how this cultivar responds to your ferts and methods... Same journal?
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They're still autos, and still under the FC4800, so I don't see a need for another thread. I'll finish them here. I have 3 active threads going. One for each of my tents and one for an outdoor girl.
 
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I like strains where I can sit back and enjoy the show rather than fuss with them a lot. You're welcome to watch the same channel with me.
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I won't even touch the remote.
 
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