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This is where you want to focus the light from your cfl as close as possible ..... you will see the plants reaction within the first 6 hrs
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DankWolf907
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In last few days of 420encyclopedia reading, i seem to have forgotten, or maybe i didnt even read..
How long do you ponytail for, 6hrs a day.. Upto what node? Whens the stopping point?
Edit: you can point me back to page one, 'reread', id understand
How long do you ponytail for, 6hrs a day.. Upto what node? Whens the stopping point?
Edit: you can point me back to page one, 'reread', id understand
Baxterwolfe
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In last few days of 420encyclopedia reading, i seem to have forgotten, or maybe i didnt even read..
How long do you ponytail for, 6hrs a day.. Upto what node? Whens the stopping point?
Edit: you can point me back to page one, 'reread', id understand
Top section of fan leaves 6 hours a day every other day
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Yep and as long as you want and feel it is helping really... you'll reach a point usually between 20 to 25 days where the auto will take off and begin to stretch... once this happens I raise the lights and then the ponytail really does no further good because the plant is not so compact
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That is usually the point when I place a strap between the 3rd and 4th node and bend them over to the rim of the pot slightly...no big time pull as not to break her stem... then begin training for multiple tops and an even canopy to soak up that light
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Ha ha wise words wolf
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Re: Auto Pounder Grow
Hello, I've never personally grew that particular strain but I have grown with auto-flowering plants for close to 2 years now and I would like to share my experiences with you.
A pound with any cannabis plant is a growers dream! unfortunately ( and I am un fermillier with your strain) I do not think you will get vary close to 16 dry ounces, Trust me I don't like bursting bubbles but I have experienced and seen many auto-flowing cannabis grows.
One thing I can tell you the success rate of a auto-flowering plant is a lot harder to achieve then a Photo-period cannabis plant, Its not really harder but people go about growing them as if they were growing a photo-period plant and they are not.
I will try and hit all the key points that has made my auto-flowers produce close to 4-8 ounces most of the time ( my preferred auto-flower is the Pineapple Express)
Any type of High stress will murder your yield plain and simple, This plant is flipping through several growth stages (like the Photo-period) only difference is Auto-flowers do this much faster and while Super-cropping and topping etc works for Photo-period plants (mainly because they have time to recover!) It does not work for Auto-flowering plants, believe it or not letting it grow straight up and introducing no stress will land you Thick Dense and heavy colas.
The next point I want to make is Plant your auto-flowering plant in the pot it will be in its entire life! The root structure of a auto-flowering plant is much different then a photo-period (at first) in the fact that it sends its tap root straight down! and during this time you will get some good growth and you don't want to stop that by stressing it. Good advice would be a taller pot, this allows more time for the tap root to find its way to the bottom. ( I have a hydroponic Pineapple express started 2 days ago and just went into cube, Your more then welcome to come check it out in a week or so ill have pics of the tap root)
I can not stress enough how transplanting will hurt this plant, Once the tap root is established if you transplant she will start growing down all over again really screwing up ur plant.
Finally DO NOT start blooming nutrients un till you see bud formations, as the plant will start stretching and going through rapid growth but this is NOT the beginning of budding.
This is a type of plant you want to water it and forget about it till the next watering and let it grow. (even LSTing to one side is going to dramatically slow her growth down)
Please remember this is all information I have acquired while trying to grow auto's the first auto that I grew only give me an ounce because I did not know all of this and there was and still is vary limited info on the matter. So don't believe it just cause I said it, try it out yourself and come up with your own conclusion.
Ok that about wraps it up, if you have any questions feel free to ask. Ill be poking around your journal to see how you are doing
Hope everyone has a great day!
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Re: Auto Pounder Grow
Hello, I've never personally grew that particular strain but I have grown with auto-flowering plants for close to 2 years now and I would like to share my experiences with you.
A pound with any cannabis plant is a growers dream! unfortunately ( and I am un fermillier with your strain) I do not think you will get vary close to 16 dry ounces, Trust me I don't like bursting bubbles but I have experienced and seen many auto-flowing cannabis grows.
One thing I can tell you the success rate of a auto-flowering plant is a lot harder to achieve then a Photo-period cannabis plant, Its not really harder but people go about growing them as if they were growing a photo-period plant and they are not.
I will try and hit all the key points that has made my auto-flowers produce close to 4-8 ounces most of the time ( my preferred auto-flower is the Pineapple Express)
Any type of High stress will murder your yield plain and simple, This plant is flipping through several growth stages (like the Photo-period) only difference is Auto-flowers do this much faster and while Super-cropping and topping etc works for Photo-period plants (mainly because they have time to recover!) It does not work for Auto-flowering plants, believe it or not letting it grow straight up and introducing no stress will land you Thick Dense and heavy colas.
The next point I want to make is Plant your auto-flowering plant in the pot it will be in its entire life! The root structure of a auto-flowering plant is much different then a photo-period (at first) in the fact that it sends its tap root straight down! and during this time you will get some good growth and you don't want to stop that by stressing it. Good advice would be a taller pot, this allows more time for the tap root to find its way to the bottom. ( I have a hydroponic Pineapple express started 2 days ago and just went into cube, Your more then welcome to come check it out in a week or so ill have pics of the tap root)
I can not stress enough how transplanting will hurt this plant, Once the tap root is established if you transplant she will start growing down all over again really screwing up ur plant.
Finally DO NOT start blooming nutrients un till you see bud formations, as the plant will start stretching and going through rapid growth but this is NOT the beginning of budding.
This is a type of plant you want to water it and forget about it till the next watering and let it grow. (even LSTing to one side is going to dramatically slow her growth down)
Please remember this is all information I have acquired while trying to grow auto's the first auto that I grew only give me an ounce because I did not know all of this and there was and still is vary limited info on the matter. So don't believe it just cause I said it, try it out yourself and come up with your own conclusion.
Ok that about wraps it up, if you have any questions feel free to ask. Ill be poking around your journal to see how you are doing
Hope everyone has a great day!
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Atrain asked me to share my success story with ponytailing with you all. 
One of the reasons my Carnival now looks like this
is because I used the ponytail technique of LST, inspired by Atrain's successful use of the technique with his first grow, which garnered him the first of his POTM awards. Hard to argue with that kind of success, eh? That's what I thought too. So I put her through five sessions over a nine day period, tying her up for 6 hours at a time.
Her first session. (Day 35)
Immediately after and 6 hours later. She's droopy in that later shot because it's close to lights off and she was tired.
The second session. (Day 37)
The next day, exploding with growth.
The third session. (Day 39)
Immediately after.
The next day.
The fourth session. (Day 41)
The next day
The fifth session. (Day 44) I don't have a decent picture of her that day, but it's more telling the next day anyhow. This is the next day.
Bottom line, it works, and works like a charm. You notice in looking through these pictures that I brought in additional lighting. Light is the engine that drives the grow. What makes this technique so effective is the way it lets light into the interior and pumps up the new growth. Without good lighting you're spitting in the wind IMHO.
This ponytailing technique, used with good lighting will grow bigger, bushier plants that yield more than plants simply left alone.
One of the reasons my Carnival now looks like this
is because I used the ponytail technique of LST, inspired by Atrain's successful use of the technique with his first grow, which garnered him the first of his POTM awards. Hard to argue with that kind of success, eh? That's what I thought too. So I put her through five sessions over a nine day period, tying her up for 6 hours at a time.
Her first session. (Day 35)
Immediately after and 6 hours later. She's droopy in that later shot because it's close to lights off and she was tired.
The second session. (Day 37)
The next day, exploding with growth.
The third session. (Day 39)
Immediately after.
The next day.
The fourth session. (Day 41)
The next day
The fifth session. (Day 44) I don't have a decent picture of her that day, but it's more telling the next day anyhow. This is the next day.
Bottom line, it works, and works like a charm. You notice in looking through these pictures that I brought in additional lighting. Light is the engine that drives the grow. What makes this technique so effective is the way it lets light into the interior and pumps up the new growth. Without good lighting you're spitting in the wind IMHO.
This ponytailing technique, used with good lighting will grow bigger, bushier plants that yield more than plants simply left alone.
A comparison shot from first session to last.
Well, that was fun. Took me the greater part of two hours to track that down and format and I had the time of my life. Never got to bed though, so I think I'll go grab a couple hours. See you later Atrain. It was my pleasure. Really. 
Took me the greater part of two hours to track that down and format and I had the time of my life. Never got to bed though, so I think I'll go grab a couple hours. See you later Atrain. It was my pleasure. Really. 
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I left my co2 meter in our bedroom for a few weeks and was blown away. My co2 meter maxes out at 3,000ppm. The co2 in our bedroom never dropped below 1,000. Once we got into the room and closed the door, within minutes the co2 would rise by 500. Within an hour to three hours it would go over the max of 3,000ppm.
For this reason, I keep a fan going, even in winter and door open or window cracked.
Our bedroom is 10x11x9.
Using the air from a bedroom would be great free co2. I am sure they sell some type of vacuum pump that would gather the air from a room and fill a pressure tank of some sort. You could then use those tanks like a c02 tank.
I just thought of an awesome idea!
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Thank you so much for that sue.... I knew you would have the best pics to compare.... thank you so much for taking the time it is much appreciated
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Buddha Magnum is a friggin' massive ball bush. I will get some pics.
I might push Dark Devil to her potential and get 4oz. Too soon to tell, but she is fattening up nicely. I'm growing her in pure rockwool.
The auto Critical by Royal Queen Seeds is like a massive sativa. She has a nice even canopy now though. I had to straight super crop several branches.
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I might push Dark Devil to her potential and get 4oz. Too soon to tell, but she is fattening up nicely. I'm growing her in pure rockwool.
The auto Critical by Royal Queen Seeds is like a massive sativa. She has a nice even canopy now though. I had to straight super crop several branches.
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Forgot pictures.
Camo420Grow
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Hey LEDRF o at u ally got the idea from you and your youtube channel about figuring out a way to take air from the bedroom to the grow closet cause of you saying the co2 getting higher than 3,000! So I was thinking high free co2 right there !
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LED dark devil is looking sweet good work
Baxterwolfe
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Just ordered my hobbyist kit with voodoo,b52,big bud and overdrive got the 250ml figured that will last me a good bit. I wanted to hit her with some b52 but $56 at the grow shop no thanks
Baxterwolfe
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Amazing how much the under growth grew after 1 ponytail
nykogrowled
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Oh guess what I already did mate. So thanks for the tip anyway. I'm more looking for tips on the strain I chose if anybody has on