Ase's Perpetual Fun With Coco

One of the most frequently asked questions in growing period is about nutrients. You could constantly chase your tail trying to find the right way to use nutrients. In my opinion nutrients are necessary but not as important as environment or light. Both environment and light can change the amount of nutrients your plant needs but the nutrients can't say the same about effecting the other two. It is still important to get the nutrients schedule correct but the hard part is everyones grow area is different, requiring different needs for the plants. Learning about nutrients is something worth doing. It's eye opening. I tried to follow people's schedules and realized I never fully understood what I was giving my plants and at what stages they needed boosts or decreases in certain nutrients.

With that being said I use GH products for now. It's the 3 part series as a base with cal-mag. I run a few additives as well. I might add one or two more to the lineup but am really happy with all these. They are affordable and I get very good results.

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Here is my feed schedule. If I decide to veg longer then I will just follow week 5's veg nutrients until ready. With that being said, you have to learn how to read your plants. different strains use different levels of each nutrient. Some of them drink more than others. This is just my rough guide.

I also pre-treat any coco that I use with a soaking of 1-1-1 N-P-K and a PPM of around 350 with cal-mag being about 150. Aways pretreat your coco and soak it. Coco is a medium with nothing in it. If you give your plant nothing it will not like it! This is one of the most common problems when transplanting or even from growing the seed from the beginning. The plant needs calcium and it can't get any unless the coco has some sort of nutes loaded into it. I also sprinkle Great White on the roots when I transplant to help the roots not miss a beat when transplanting and hopefully causing little stress when transplanting.

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I water with nutes everyday and I usually mix up 5 gallons each time and then use that to water for a couple days. In the beginning I try to keep the coco relatively damp and not saturated. I am a firm believer that roots want to go exploring and if they are have enough water then they won't. A larger root mass means a larger plant and more bud potential. I run a drain to waste system by hand feeding but I don't always want to see runoff. In the first weeks of veg I get very little runoff ever. As the plants get larger and enter vigorous veg I start to get runoff every few waterings. By the time they are late veg/early flower I am watering twice a day. The first watering I don't want runoff and usually if I give the same amount a while later it will cause just a little runoff. This happens daily, by now the roots have filled the pot and the plant should be focusing on bud swelling.

Once a week I water to runoff of about 30% just to flush out any buildup of salts. I usually will only water once the next day to keep things from over-saturating. You will not kill your plants by overwatering in coco but you can do damage to the roots if they are constantly soaked. The very last week I flush the plants about 7 days before I want to pull them and use Florakleen and ph to 5.8. I measure runoff until it is the same as what is coming out and then from there on out I water as needed with regular, unPH'd water until the end. The Florakleen breaks down any remaining salts and the water flushes them out. By PH'ing to 5.8 it allows the plant to grab anything else it needs before I lock it out with regular water so it can finish.

The best way to determine how much to water is to pick your whole plant up right after you give it a full watering (with some drainage coming out the bottom). Use that as your gauge for how much the plant needs. I like to keep my plants to where they are asking for water a little bit everyday. The pots are usually pretty light when I pick them up. I noticed in my last grow the saturation of roots happened at the bottom of the pots mainly. I am using Hydroton this time to prevent that.

My water is a ppm of 34, which is great. I make beer as well and we are known for having some of the best water. In coco it is essential to always keep cal-mag levels at a certain base. Plants in coco use a lot of both. I fill my 5 gallon bucket with water and then add cal-mag until my PPM is 200. After that I add nutes to hit the PPM for the week using the N-P-K ratios listed in the table. These ratios are based on what the plant needs at given points in the 9 week flower lifecycle.

This is why understanding your nutes is important. The guides on bottles do an OK job of getting a plant to grow minus the fact that you should always cut back 1/2 or 1/3 on what is recommended. Their ratios are also ok but won't produce the best results. The Lucas Formula is the same thing. It's a good idea to learn using these guides but ultimately they aren't ideal. I've combined everything I've read and tried and this is the best for me and what I use.

Perfect I have a set of the flora series and need to use them not opened stores in cool dark place basement .

Think they still be good? One day I want to try a different nute so I can practice ph downing lol

But need notes on feeding .
 
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What CBD strain will you grow? I'm excited for that one as well! I definitely want to pop some CBD next grow. .✌️....

Stoner moment. I thought I had one, turns out I don't! Guess I need to make a purchase. Probably headed over to gorilla seeds soon then! I think I'll let the girlfriend pick the strains out since it's going to be her grow and now we get to choose. I'll let ya know what she decides.
 
Perfect I have a set of the flora series and need to use them not opened stores in cool dark place basement .

Think they still be good? One day I want to try a different nute so I can practice ph downing lol

But need notes on feeding .

I'm sure they are still good. My theories on N-P-K ratios can apply to other nute lines too. Just the math will be different based on the N-P-K of each of the bottles. The GH Flora Series with my additives works well for me and a few others on here. I'll try some different nutrients soon enough but it's a great place to start for growing in coco.
 
I'm sure they are still good. My theories on N-P-K ratios can apply to other nute lines too. Just the math will be different based on the N-P-K of each of the bottles. The GH Flora Series with my additives works well for me and a few others on here. I'll try some different nutrients soon enough but it's a great place to start for growing in coco.

Thanks man good to know .
 
Harvest Update

Well I had mentioned in a prior post that I ended up with 142g of the Purple Envy. She was part of this grow so I'll include her numbers in here.

The Lost Coast OG landed at 60g on the dot. The smell is great and it ended up super resinous like my Purple Envy did. The Purple Kush came down today and had a grand total of 198g. While trimming I had to take breaks because it has such a dark and dank smell. I don't mind inhaling super lemony strains or fruity strains while trimming, but the really sweet, dark earthy smelling bud is more overwhelming for me and I feel like I need fresh air.

That puts my total for this grow at exactly 400g. Surprisingly that is really close to my goal of 450g and I only had 3 plants to finish this time. I didn't think I'd get anywhere near this so I'm really happy. I'm pretty sure this beats any grow I've done so far so now I'm really excited to finish 4 plants and see what I can get. We will know in 6-7 weeks when the other 4 are done (assuming nothing goes drastically wrong).

I did end up trying the Purple Envy today. For me it was a clear headed high and I really enjoyed that it wasn't muddled or tiring.. I felt very spacey and there were times I had to remind myself what I was doing or re-think things but overall it was great. The high lasted pretty long and there was a couple times where I thought about smoking another strain and then a minute or two later I'd realize I was still plenty good. I can't say it pushed me to the edge but it was great. I think as it cures it will just get more potent and I can see that in a couple weeks it might be extremely potent. Looking forward to when it gets there for sure. I think for most people it might already get them to that point but I have a pretty high tolerance.
 
Congrats on the harvest Ase, those are some impressive numbers brother!

Thanks VS! I was very happy with the Lost Coast and the Purple Envy. The bud was frosty and swelled up nicely. The Purple Kush yield was great but not as frosty so not incredibly happy with it but the smell was thick. The bud also wasn't as nice and mature as the two others. Kind of the same thing as the Cherry Bomb a couple grows ago. Initially I wasn't a huge fan but after 6-8 weeks of curing it ended up pretty good. I think the huge plants I sometimes get need extra PK and maybe that would help the bud maturation. No signs of burn so that is why this grow I'm pushing a little higher by raising the ppms a bit.
 
Thanks VS! I was very happy with the Lost Coast and the Purple Envy. The bud was frosty and swelled up nicely. The Purple Kush yield was great but not as frosty so not incredibly happy with it but the smell was thick. The bud also wasn’t as nice and mature as the two others. Kind of the same thing as the Cherry Bomb a couple grows ago. Initially I wasn’t a huge fan but after 6-8 weeks of curing it ended up pretty good. I think the huge plants I sometimes get need extra PK and maybe that would help the bud maturation. No signs of burn so that is why this grow I’m pushing a little higher by raising the ppms a bit.

I certainly agree with the PK statement brother. I started adding teas to my flower watering for that reason, hoping that getting a good bit of extra P and K would help and I can't say I have been disappointed. My buds seem to be much more dense as well as bigger.
 
I certainly agree with the PK statement brother. I started adding teas to my flower watering for that reason, hoping that getting a good bit of extra P and K would help and I can't say I have been disappointed. My buds seem to be much more dense as well as bigger.

Yeah I boost them already in my feed schedule but this one needed extra. Now that I've had two plants end up like this, if I get another huge one I'll be sure to make its own feed bucket and boost the crap out of it until it shows signs of burn.
 
What was the taste like with the PE?

Earthy and deep and dark taste with a sweet after tone. It kind of reminded me of my Aurora Indica taste but had more of that dark/purple smell to it. I know that's a terrible description if you've never grown any of the Purple varieties but it's about all I can come up with.
 
Day 21 Flower Tent B

These ladies are doing great and looking really healthy. They keep stretching and I am fine with that. The front girls have gone crazy lately and are pretty close to being mostly even to the two girls in the back (minus a few colas that shot up for them). It was noticeable today and it was a pleasant surprise. I'm still going to wait a few days to do my major defoliation.

Couldn't resist pulling a couple fan leave. CK I know will like this picture. It was pulled off of the Cinderella99 which looks to be shaping up to be a pretty stellar girl. She has spaced out really well and is the tallest so I am expecting big things.
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Full Tent B picture.
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Lastly I decided to go with Green Crack, Crown Royale, Blue Dream and Super Iced Grapefruit for the next round. Pretty soon after that I will be starting another round and incorporating a 2'X4' Vivosun tent I bought as a veg/clone tent. I threw up one of my Mars Hydro Reflector 96s in there and have a rack in there as well. I'll take a picture when these girls sprout and I plant them in their little pots.

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Day 81 Flower Tent A - Day 1 Flower Tent A

Well apparently I wasn't thinking yesterday when I said I was going to let these plants go a few more days. Today is my only day this week that I have time to cut down my plants. Family is in town soon and even though they aren't staying with me, my nights will be occupied. So this marks the end of a crazy grow. The Cali OG hermed early due to high stress and breaking a couple branches. The Lost Coast OG just froze for a couple weeks and stayed small without really showing signs of any problem. The Purple Kush was a monster with crazy looking bud and the Purple Envy had some mold issues. I think the Purple Kush might yield the best numbers of any plant I've done. It was noticeably heavier than I remember any plant being. The Lost Coast OG was short but it was also super dense. The bud on the Lost Coast OG looks like fire. I am really happy with it. All in all I still think I will hit about average numbers for me with all that happening. Pretty crazy to think about. It's why I am pretty excited about Flower Tent B and all of the plants being healthy and female. Maybe I will finally hit the full potential now.

Purple Kush
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Lost Coast budshot
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Drying tent. Lost Coast is the one on the far right.
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The coolest part about how this all worked out is that this is Day 1 for my newest girls. They are all above ground now and ready to go. I will keep them in the Veg tent for a little while. This will give me time to deep clean Tent A. Things should really begin to slow down now. Tent B is done stretching and will just get fat for the next 6-7 weeks. All that will leave me to do is watch the infants grow and then transplant them. I could use a break!

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Ok know its late getting to this party, but wanted to stop by and just say, "Wow!" Those latest girls look great!

Now I want to follow along and see that Blue Dream (just ordered that one) and Green crack.

Hopefully this Cinderella comes out to be a nice smoke for you Ase!

Watching the babies closely from here on out...

*.*.* Cedru *.*.*
 
Ok know its late getting to this party, but wanted to stop by and just say, "Wow!" Those latest girls look great!

Now I want to follow along and see that Blue Dream (just ordered that one) and Green crack.

Hopefully this Cinderella comes out to be a nice smoke for you Ase!

Watching the babies closely from here on out...

*.*.* Cedru *.*.*

Welcome aboard Cedru! You are actually timing it pretty well for this round of girls. The Blue Dream has started off pretty well! I'm really hoping she turns out awesome as I love some good Blue Dream.
 
Day 9 Veg Tent A - Day 35 Flower Tent B

The little ones are starting to really grow. It's usually a good sign that they are ready to be transplanted. I will likely do that in the next couple of days. There are multiple roots coming out the holes in the bottom and they are healthy and white. Crown Royale is still a day or two behind the others but the other three are doing very well. As most have said, the Green Crack and Blue Dream are two I am also really excited for. I would say I'm equally excited for the Super Iced Grapefruit as well but the Crown Royale is the wildcard. Good thing the three I am excited for are all the ones that are doing well. Usually the one I want to do best is always the smaller plant in the end.

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The girls in the other tent are shooting white hairs out everywhere. In my experience the more white hairs on a cola, the larger the cola ends up being. If that is the case I should start seeing some swelling happening soon and hopefully some fat colas to follow!

Jock Horror - Littlest of the bunch in height but has stacked well.
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Lemon Venom - Much lankier but has resin everywhere. Even the fan leaves have resin on them are getting stuck to each other. I've had to keep defoliating here and there to make sure the leaves don't stick to each other and cause wet spots. That'd be an open invitation for mold, even though all my equipment is running like it should this time.
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Cinderella 99 - It seems to be stacking the best. It will be the largest plant and looks to be set to have some really large colas.
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This is what most of the plants look like. This is the Cinderella 99 stem. Pretty darn thick.
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Ice - Frosty and white. Seems like it fits the name very well.
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One last shot of the whole tent. Jack Horror front left and Lemon front right. Cindy99 back left and Ice back right.
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Beautiful as always Ase.

You have some nice strains running again. I will be watching that Ice. I've had my eye on it for a long time. Nirvana right?
 
Beautiful as always Ase.

You have some nice strains running again. I will be watching that Ice. I've had my eye on it for a long time. Nirvana right?

Thanks man. Nirvana Ice is correct. Always try and have a Nirvana strain in my girls. I've had such good luck with their seeds.
 
100% agreed. Such a solid breeder. You won't find any rare or "elite" genetics from them, but what you will get is exactly what is written on the label. That counts for a lot. Especially at those prices. Such an underrated breeder. Not sure why though.
 
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