Amy Gardner Of Eden: Perpetually Organic

[Amy Gardner]

well earned, Amy.

Thanks DAB!

like to mention...

Wow - thanks for sharing that. And for asking them in the first place. Very interesting.

One of my favourites, Bubba Hash, gets described as “F1 Hybrid Feminized” by the breeder. (They also list an “S1 Feminized Hashplant”.) So it doesn’t seem to be a problem in all places.

It’s good to know that sometimes the reason we don’t know might be because of these kinds of (local) restrictions.

 

[dynamo1]

And "phewf!" also that you have more seed

So do I, no worries

 

[StoneOtter]

Thanks for that Amy! That explains why I've been seeing so many variegated plants around too.

 

[MrSauga]

Great post Amy. Very informative. That should keep some members busy for a while

 

[Amy Gardner]

Thanks for that Amy! That explains why I've been seeing so many variegated plants around too.

my thoughts too some of my autos have been very very.

Great post Amy. Very informative. That should keep some members busy for a while

lol!

 

[Amy Gardner]

I should have left a screen full of static after I posted "stay tuned"

Candida harvest report is coming... meanwhile, I had the weirdest time with this photograph where it either lost all its colour or looked a bit 'overdone' with even small adjustments. Anyhoo I'll post them both.

I had to take a picker because it's the last 2 nugs of the Bubba Hash Stash - and one of them is half gone since I took the photo. They're so well aged that they are almost totally CBN I think - going by both the looks and the effects! They are so hard they are brittle and toffee-like around the edges and crackle like crystals when I light it up.

Bubba Hash.jpeg

• Amy Gardner
• Feb 14, 2021

18months cured.

Bubba Hash.jpeg

• Amy Gardner
• Feb 14, 2021

18months cured

Something in the software washed the pics out quite bit and all the hairs lost their colour... try again...

Bubba Hash.jpg

• Amy Gardner
• Feb 14, 2021

18months cured

Bubba Hash.jpg

• Amy Gardner
• Feb 14, 2021

18months cured

Hardly any adjustment at all - looks fully overdone but I actually wound it back a bit, The hairs a really red! Which close up do y'all think shows off the trichs better?

The terpene profile is still really fantastic earthy with geranium overtones and - thanks to @ColaCalyx comment - what I now identify as cedarwood on the exhale - very incense-y. It now has a full on camphor, deep heat kind of smell as well. And still a super bright stone upfront bit only for about 10 seconds and then it's lights out! Perfect end of the day tokes for me now - or middle of the day if I want to nap.

Parting is such sweet sorrow. I'd been worried that because I smoked it all through the fire evacuations that it'd be a sense memory thing and maybe be 'tainted' for me. Not so. The happiness when I open a jar of it is unmistakable. I think there is little doubt that it will be the first seed I drop this year.

 

[MrSauga]

Which close up do y'all think shows off the trichs better?

The first one is a little more obvious, and the second one is better as far as getting in on the action. Nice looking family you have!

 

[InTheShed]

I think the first picker shows off the trichomes better, and the revised set are bit too heavy for me. The darks get too black too quickly.

Glad the memory of the fires hasn't dampened the enthusiasm for the buds!

 

[Amy Gardner]

picker

too black too quickly

‘tis what it is, i agree. New software learning ...I struggled to find a middle point that showed the colour of what they look like without doing that. It’s partly problem of bad lighting the moment really

dampened

Me too!

 

[Amy Gardner]

is a little more obvious,

Obvious as in ‘clearly defined and easy to see’, or obvious as in ‘meh’ or ‘standard’, ‘run-of-the-mill’? I’m thinking option 1, right?

 

[MrSauga]

I’m thinking option 1, right?

Correct! Obvious. Obvious. Can I use that in a sentence? It's obvious the plants Amy grows are covered in trichomes. O-B-V-I-O-U-S. Obvious .

 

[dynamo1]

Which close up do y'all think shows off the trichs better?

first one highlights the trichs .better to me,

 

[BigD13]

Which close up do y'all think shows off the trichs better?

Not really sure, but I really like the color of the bud in the 3rd photo.

 

[Graytail]

I got to wondering about mine so I took some pics ...

Bubba Hash jarred Oct 4, 2018

BubbaHash

• Graytail
• Feb 14, 2021
• 1

Bubba Hash jarred Feb 25, 2019

BubbaHash

• Graytail
• Feb 14, 2021
• 1

Bubba Hash jarred Nov 2, 2019

BubbaHash

• Graytail
• Feb 14, 2021
• 1

The taste is stronger if anything and definitely danker, although the lemon/sour is still very prominent - a complex sophisticated flavor.

Pics aren't that great, but interesting to see buds as old as these.

 

[Amy Gardner]

complex sophisticated flavor.

It really is. The effects as well! They are uber-beautiful buds Gray
They look in much better nick than mine in terms of freshness - but thos ones in particular went through some dreadful storage conditions. Those ones of yours look .... well, I’ll be over in minute!

O-B-V-I-O-U-S. Obvious .

first one highlights the trichs .better to me,

I thot so too - less light and contrast in that one so it shows a bit more

Not really sure, but I really like the color of the bud in the 3rd photo.

I’m going to say it because that’s the one that really looks like the right colour - that’s absolutely what they look like IRL - rusty coloured sticky/brittle rocks!

 

[kelticBlue]

Does anyone know of other ways that they’re willing to share?

Another, Perhaps, Rodelization, a type of stress induced way to produce pollen from a female 'fem' seed.
A term coined by soma.
a 420mag link but any search will give answers.
>>>rodelization<<<

It now has a full on camphor, deep heat kind of smell as well

My current grow fresh leaves are very camphor/tiger balm, it is an easy breezy smell, I like it. I has become comforting when I am in the garden.

 

[The Celt]

I pushed further asking about our known silver and gibberellic acid processes, and the response was these are banned by health Canada to use on cannabis plants. They would not even speak of the type of seed (F1, S1 etc) offered for sale. I know there must be other ways to produce seeds, but surprised at the answer I

I may be wrong, but I suspect that vendor was bull shitting you DAB. I can't see why Health Canada would ban the use of GA3 on Cannabis, it is what is used in producing seedless grapes and other fruits that are sold daily here.

Silver on the other hand may have been banned even though its not really toxic but ingesting high levels over years will turn you into a Blue Man

As for ways to produce feminized seed, Rodelization as mentioned is a natural process.

Chemical means work by blocking ethylene production required to produce female flowers and include:

Gibberellic acid (GA3 being common) is a plant hormone harvested from algae but is produced by all plants

Silver Thiosulphate (STS)

Colloidal Silver (CS)

And recently, I was reading a research paper on reversing sex on dioecious species other than cannabis using just silver nitrate, so that could be another way.

Of all the research I have been able to find, these are the only chemicals (ga3 and silver compounds) that have been researched and used successfully, so of they are not using one of them to produce feminized seed, that leaves rodelization.

 

[DutchinAB]

, Perhaps, Rodelization, a type of stress induced way to produce pollen from a female 'fem' seed.
A term coined by soma.
a 420mag link but any search will give answers.

Excellent, I will read up on rodelization.

I may be wrong, but I suspect that vendor was bull shitting you DAB. I can't see why Health Canada would ban the use of GA3 on Cannabis, it is what is used in producing seedless grapes and other fruits that are sold daily here.

I don’t think you are wrong, Celt. It was a strange answer I thought so I figured I would mention it here to get others thoughts as they did not want to elaborate for me.

 

[ChefDGreen]

Hey Amy! Loved your write up on the digging you did into selfing and out-crossing. Pretty funny they were using Candida CD-1. I had one concern though;

“If crossing within a [variety] is necessary … then growers should consider using two different genotypes of the [variety] to produce feminised seed and keep the [variety] name”.​

This was quite confusing for me. If I’m understanding genotype correctly, two Candida CD-1 seeds are of the same genotype. That is, variety and genotype are synonyms.. because what’s above variety? Species. Well okay, we’re not growing a different species. What’s below variety? Phenotype. If you grow two OG Kush plants, they’re the same varietal and thus the same genotype. The same set of potential variables though their phenotypes may differ. Where you’re going with this does make sense though, because what you’re talking about is making F2-Fn’s. But that brings up another concern, particularly with the variety in question, Candida CD-1.

The issue with CBD heavy strains is, the passing of genetics related to CBD:THC ratio is not very well understood. That’s why you have farms doing 10,000 plant sifts. They can send in tissue samples and receive the cannabinoid ratios of each cultivar at 3 weeks into veg. The reason I bring this up; even if someone successfully reversed the Candida, there’s no guarantee the resulting seed will offer the same CBD:THC ratio. I believe that’s the biggest obstacle to increasing your seed stock of Candida. I know this is true because of the issue of “hot crops” in the US. Hemp farmers getting in big trouble because their crops have crept up over that .3% thc threshold for hemp.

One of my favourites, Bubba Hash, gets described as “F1 Hybrid Feminized” by the breeder. (They also list an “S1 Feminized Hashplant”.) So it doesn’t seem to be a problem in all places.

This is a very important marker to notice. Good breeders will mostly always indicate filial generation unless it’s something they’ve worked down to a new genotype. Something to always watch for when buying seeds.

 

[Heavenly Hybrid]