Amy Gardner Of Eden: Perpetually Organic

[JimJonesJr]

52 hours later at light-on...

the joyful struggle.jpeg

• Amy Gardner
• Sep 25, 2020

12 hours after that... meet the new kid!

NJ x KC.jpeg

• Amy Gardner
• Sep 25, 2020

Day 1, 25 Sept.

Perky!


Meet the parents ...
Nepal Jam


Kali China


This is a test run of the cross and I have more seeds of it. I expect it could go very well outside here so I’m running it now to see if i like it and if so I will plan it for outside next year.

I am hoping to give it a very short veg, top it early and flower it in a 4gal AutoPot with the new soil (which is being treated in storage to hopefully reduce gnats etc. - we’re thinking about gnat targeting nematodes too...)

Hope y’all are well as you can be!

Welcome lil one.

 

[dynamo1]

The descriptions told me I need a Kalijam like I have room for more. Congrates on having another to feed.

 

[Amy Gardner]

descriptions told me I need a Kalijam

I’d love to grow the Kali China sometime - sounds wonderful to me

 

[JimJonesJr]

Update: Rootopsy, Gnats and Something Else(s)
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Shoud call it a back-up-a-bit-date really! Doing the rootopsy was one thing, then going through the pics enough to be confident there was no root aphids was another. Unsurprisingly, it then took me a long time to get the energy together to prepare them to share - and there was a transplant to get done in the meantime as well (more on that later).

First up - WARNING to @Virgin Ground (and anyone else to whom it may be relevant) that this post contains pics of fungus gnat larvae and they are not unlike tiny clearish whiteish worm things, maybe a bit like a caterpillar (not really, but i thought it best not tot take the chance, and want you )

First up a few pics of the little flying things stuck on the sticky traps. Mostly fungus gnats (dusted in DE from their escape from the soil), and a few of some other kind. These other ones are similar to the fungus gnats but with some different features. I’ll post this post over at the Predators of Eden as well and hope that the usual brains trust is on hand to help.

Fungus gnats on sticky trap.jpeg

• Amy Gardner
• Sep 25, 2020

Fungus and gnats and others on sticky trap.jpeg

• Amy Gardner
• Sep 25, 2020

This one below is definitely a fungus gnat, I’m pretty sure. But when I was researching about root aphids, I read that one way to distinguish them from gnats was that RA have 2 ‘tailpipes’ at the back end - so this feature on the gnats that’s visible here (and i was seeing it through the loupe at that time) was a contributor to my thinking I might have the RA. Pretty sure it’s a gnat though - that article I linked a few pages back on root aphids shows the ‘tailpipes’ as looking quite different. Phewf! I think...

Fungus gnat on sticky trap.jpeg

• Amy Gardner
• Sep 25, 2020

These below are all something that’s not a FG - yet to be identified. They were also in the soil.

NOT a fungus gnat on sticky trap.jpeg

• Amy Gardner
• Sep 25, 2020

Yet to ID this

NOT a fungus gnat on sticky trap.jpeg

• Amy Gardner
• Sep 25, 2020

NOT a fungus gnat on sticky trap.jpeg

• Amy Gardner
• Sep 25, 2020

So now we get to the rootball! We saw quite a few crawling and lots flying out and there were larvae and eggs too - I think I managed a photo of an egg attached to a root. There were lots of those. There is also a pic that shows some damaged root - we saw lots of that - and a FG head poking out below. Culprit!

You can see how the larvae hangout along the root - munching into it. Li’l buggers!

Pics:

Fungus Gnat(?) in rootball.jpeg

• Amy Gardner
• Sep 25, 2020

Fungus Gnat(?) in rootball.jpeg

• Amy Gardner
• Sep 25, 2020

NOT(?) Fungus Gnat in rootball.jpeg

• Amy Gardner
• Sep 25, 2020

Fungus Gnat larvae on root.jpeg

• Amy Gardner
• Sep 25, 2020

Fungus Gnat larvae on root.jpeg

• Amy Gardner
• Sep 25, 2020

Fungus Gnat larvae on root.jpeg

• Amy Gardner
• Sep 25, 2020

Fungus Gnat egg(?) on root.jpeg

• Amy Gardner
• Sep 25, 2020

Fungus Gnat egg(?) on root.jpeg

• Amy Gardner
• Sep 25, 2020

Fungus Gnat larvae on root.jpeg

• Amy Gardner
• Sep 25, 2020

Fungus Gnat larvae on root.jpeg

• Amy Gardner
• Sep 25, 2020

Fungus Gnat larvae on root.jpeg

• Amy Gardner
• Sep 25, 2020

Damaged root above - culprit below.jpeg

• Amy Gardner
• Sep 25, 2020

I can see why Panama had a stoppage at the end and I’m glad I chucked that pot of soil. There was just a population explosion there for a bit. I have taken heavier steps to mitigate in the grow space and numbers have dropped to nearly nothing, I just need to keep up with more IPM ‘prongs’ of approach and replenish the mosquito dink in the res more regularly.

I have used a product called Eco Neem to drench all the pots (that was back last week) and the tent got a complete clean, vinegar and followed up with a clove spray followed up with another essential oils based spray called Bug Boss that kills eggs (And mould too i think).

Right at the end of inspecting the rootball, this funky looking thing was amongst the soil. We were just working on cardboard put straight down on the grass tho’ so I’m not sure this critter was in the pot. Regardless, it looks to me like the kind of predator bug that uses those forward fronds to scoop up eggs. I want to know what it is so I had to include it. And maybe it did come out of the pot, we will never know

Unknown - hopefully predator!.jpeg

• Amy Gardner
• Sep 25, 2020
• 2

That’s the pest analysis done for now - hopefully for good! Or a good good while

Enjoyed that a lot. Thanks for sharing the info. Amazing what can live in there.

 

[JimJonesJr]

Harvest report - Sour Bubba
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Stable at 62% finally. Early tokes have been enjoyable; cerebral, good focus and promising pain relieving effects, all suggesting it will be a good daytime dosing oil candidate. At this stage I wouldn’t say supremely potent, but I know that can change w the cure so I’ll reserve judgement on that for a minute. I’ve held out a little nug from the jarred stuff to toke on over this week and I have a very tiny piece of hash to try, in a minute actually - just charging the VB11!

9 weeks in veg, 10 weeks in flower, 7gal of soil.

SourBubba.jpeg

• Amy Gardner
• Sep 21, 2020

Sour Bubba.jpeg

• Amy Gardner
• Sep 21, 2020
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Sour Bubba.jpeg

• Amy Gardner
• Sep 21, 2020

Sour Bubba.jpeg

• Amy Gardner
• Sep 21, 2020

Sour Bubba.jpeg

• Amy Gardner
• Sep 21, 2020

The blackness gives the buds a lovely silver appearance - which the photos don’t really do justice too.

A little over 5 1/2 oz I’m very happy with that

Lovely day to all ...

They look delicious. Nice harvest.

 

[StoneOtter]

Hi Amy, Nep Jam x Kali China is intriguing, Good growing her!

 

[Amy Gardner]

intriguing

I pored over the Ace catalogue for hours making the choice! There’s so much they have that i want to try - NP x KC sounded like it brought a few things together sucessfully and I need a nice balanced, laid back but not too heavy, daytime toke so hopefully it will fit the bill.

look delicious. Nice harvest.

JJJ! It is delicious.

It is definitely not a laid back toke I have decided it is a super charged turbo hit to the energy centres. I have to be careful how I use it as I’ve wiped myself out 3 times after having some and getting fully into a project. And have then been unable to get out of bed for more than the bathroom for a few days. I’m totally stoked to get these things done, and the garden has really benefitted, but I”m not supposed to do that so I’ll have to be more circumspect in future about when and how I use it. I know some folks who are going to love it!

Amazing what can live in there.

IKR!

 

[StoneOtter]

hopefully it will fit the bill.

Sounds like it will. Have fun test driving it! Keep it under a hundred and twenty!

 

[Amy Gardner]

The brains trust came through on this one

Unknown - hopefully predator!.jpeg

• Amy Gardner
• Sep 25, 2020
• 2

@Pterostychus tells me that is a springtail. I’ve never eyeballed an adult one but as soon as he said so I was like, oh yeah - it really is. I saw plenty of the babies at times during the grow so as for my saying we would never know if it came out of the pot or not - I think we will. I’m 99.420% certain it did

 

[Fredwak]

High Amy, Thank you for the pics and info! Great shots of the little buggers on the roots!
Stay stoned and stay stoneder

 

[dr.h00k]

...
Springtails are associated with damp conditions and organic debris and are found outdoors in soil, leaf litter, decaying plant matter, and rotting wood. They are found in diverse habitats from tundras to cornfields, and they feed on fungi, pollen, algae, or decaying organic matter. Springtails may also inhabit the soil of houseplants or other moist places inside the house. Springtails that infest houseplants are only found in soil that is exceedingly damp or in soil mixes containing high percentages of peat. They feed on decaying roots and fungi and do not harm living plants, but if you have a problem with springtails in houseplants, let the soil dry out and water less frequently. Moisture control is the most effective strategy to decrease springtail populations.

Typically, seeing springtails is a positive thing. Springtails are harmless to people; they do not bite or sting us, nor damage food products, clothes, or furniture. In fact, they are beneficial insects to have in agricultural soils or in one’s garden soil. They play important roles in the decomposition of organic materials, cycling of nutrients, and formation of soil micro-structure. Like most of our under-recognized soil invertebrates, they play a role in the soil food web and contribute to the health of the of soil community. There is also evidence that springtails benefit plant health by feeding upon fungi which may cause plant diseases.

... .......cheerz......h00k...

 

[Amy Gardner]

Stay stoned and stay stoneder

Thanks Fredwak today will be stonederer for sure. Happy Sunday, tokes whenevr i want and some international cricket on the telly. The first international sporting matches in Aus since the lockdowns started.

Aus women play NZ women in Brisbane. They played a match yesterday too - and myself and the lovely other were splendidly entertained. We love cricket in this house - and the womens cricket has a special place. We both used play and spent meany years traveling to interstate and international womens matches and its been a wonderful journey witnessing the mainstream establishment get on broad woth womens sport and start show casing it on the the telly. It’s become hugely opera very quickly as result. That’s my Sunday afternoon - slotted In front of that. Just a short T20 match, not my favourite form but i will take it!

 

[Amy Gardner]

...
Springtails are associated with damp conditions and organic debris and are found outdoors in soil, leaf litter, decaying plant matter, and rotting wood. They are found in diverse habitats from tundras to cornfields, and they feed on fungi, pollen, algae, or decaying organic matter. Springtails may also inhabit the soil of houseplants or other moist places inside the house. Springtails that infest houseplants are only found in soil that is exceedingly damp or in soil mixes containing high percentages of peat. They feed on decaying roots and fungi and do not harm living plants, but if you have a problem with springtails in houseplants, let the soil dry out and water less frequently. Moisture control is the most effective strategy to decrease springtail populations.

Typically, seeing springtails is a positive thing. Springtails are harmless to people; they do not bite or sting us, nor damage food products, clothes, or furniture. In fact, they are beneficial insects to have in agricultural soils or in one’s garden soil. They play important roles in the decomposition of organic materials, cycling of nutrients, and formation of soil micro-structure. Like most of our under-recognized soil invertebrates, they play a role in the soil food web and contribute to the health of the of soil community. There is also evidence that springtails benefit plant health by feeding upon fungi which may cause plant diseases.

... .......cheerz......h00k...

Thanks h00k! I thought they were okay - all that is very reassuring,

I also found an answer to wat those other gnat-like things are: biting midges. We do get those here so no surprise...
here’s one of my pics of them

NOT a fungus gnat on sticky trap.jpeg

• Amy Gardner
• Sep 25, 2020

and here’s one from a medical advice site (about dealing w the bites)

That’s them!

glad its not a mystery anymore. And glad they didnt bite me.

This water-only super soil i am trying out is super dense with organic matter and while i like the water-only aspect, it is a bit too rich with organic material and prone to staying wet for my liking. There’s plenty of aeration - but there is also little chunk of wood/bark through it and I’m not so keen on that. Mostly its working really well though so not a big problem - just learning how to work with it.

 

[Fredwak]

Thanks Fredwak today will be stonederer for sure. Happy Sunday, tokes whenevr i want and some international cricket on the telly. The first international sporting match in Aus since the lockdowns started.

Aus women play NZ women in Brisbane. They played a match yesterday too - and myself and the lovely other were splendidly entertained. We love cricket in this house - and the womens cricket has a special place. We both used play and spent meany years traveling to interstate and international womens matches and its been a wonderful journey witnessing the mainstream establishment get on broad woth womens sport and start show casing it on the the telly. It’s become hugely opera very quickly as result. That’s my Sunday afternoon - slotted In front of that. Just a short T20 match, not my favourite form but i will take it!

Sounds like a great Sunday! Being a yank and not knowing the game I watched cricket a bit whilst living in the Caribbean. I like rugby and your Aussie rules football as well. Cheers!

 

[syenite]

52 hours later at light-on...

12 hours after that... meet the new kid!
Perky!


Meet the parents ...
Nepal Jam


Kali China


This is a test run of the cross and I have more seeds of it. I expect it could go very well outside here so I’m running it now to see if i like it and if so I will plan it for outside next year.

I am hoping to give it a very short veg, top it early and flower it in a 4gal AutoPot with the new soil (which is being treated in storage to hopefully reduce gnats etc. - we’re thinking about gnat targeting nematodes too...)

Hope y’all are well as you can be!

Oh my! Incredible!!

In all my reading so far I haven't heard of any Chinese cultivars. I'm intrigued!

 

[BooWho2]

Congrats on the new baby Amy!

 

[Carcass]

Congrats on the new arrival!
And thank you for all the critter info!
I'd seen Springtails before, but had no idea what they were,or if they'd chow down on my plants...
I also haven't seen "biting midges"and I don't want to...they look a little like the "deer flies" that used to torment me back in my hunting days, many,many years ago- I killed a deer and felt awful about it, so I didn't do it any more...

 

[DutchinAB]

The first international sporting matches in Aus since the lockdowns started

Hope you enjoyed the games! I know I sure was excited to see live televised sports again.

 

[Amy Gardner]

enjoyed the games!

We really did!

 

[Amy Gardner]

deer flies

Probably very similar. They're also called “sand flies” here and can give super annoying bites.

Oh my!

Congrats on the new baby Amy!

Congrats on the new arrival!

haven't heard of any Chinese cultivars. I'm intrigued