All Aboard - Dabber Blooms Buds In The Tub Of Love
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Day 8 of 11 13 lighting
Well friends here we are 1 week into 11 13.
Things look okay to me. I must say I am really liking the results of this feed stuff. And knowing my NPK levels/ ratios seems to be making for some darn Happy plants!
Here is a look at Asesino's feed chart:
If we wanna win a POTM we gotta feed them like the winners do!
So today I'll be transitioning them to week 2 feed ratios today. I was always under the impression that you multiply ppm by NPK and I was kinda wayyyy off there. Sam smith explained it well that most micro or cal mag contain a lot of iron and increases the conductivity more than a PK booster for instance.
I will be doing a nice little re work of how to calculate your levels soon. Obviously there's a lot to get done this week but I do plan on getting to it!
Enough blabbering here are our girls on day 1 of week 2.
IVY
I lowered the lights down some on her. I know I talked some trash about her but damn, I'm gonna take a cutting of her cause I feel she may have serious potential after all. I love when my plants prove me wrong. Like penny always says never give up on them!
Just look at this poor soul in veg....
And now
Next we have the ATF
Really stretching now! I thought I saw 1 pistil but I'm still watching closely.
And Mama G
Putting on some big flower sites. I'm excited to watch her go big on this new feed thing.
Driver was shipped I think so Monday Tuesday will be the frame build.
Still spraying the CS and I'm optimistic?
Also going to blast some Lilly this week. I anticipate a darker extract based on her ripeness but should be some good flavorful meds for sure!
Hope everyone's having a great shatterday. Puff one one me.
Well friends here we are 1 week into 11 13.
Things look okay to me. I must say I am really liking the results of this feed stuff. And knowing my NPK levels/ ratios seems to be making for some darn Happy plants!
Here is a look at Asesino's feed chart:
If we wanna win a POTM we gotta feed them like the winners do!
So today I'll be transitioning them to week 2 feed ratios today. I was always under the impression that you multiply ppm by NPK and I was kinda wayyyy off there. Sam smith explained it well that most micro or cal mag contain a lot of iron and increases the conductivity more than a PK booster for instance.
I will be doing a nice little re work of how to calculate your levels soon. Obviously there's a lot to get done this week but I do plan on getting to it!
Enough blabbering here are our girls on day 1 of week 2.
IVY
I lowered the lights down some on her. I know I talked some trash about her but damn, I'm gonna take a cutting of her cause I feel she may have serious potential after all. I love when my plants prove me wrong. Like penny always says never give up on them!
Just look at this poor soul in veg....
Next we have the ATF
Really stretching now! I thought I saw 1 pistil but I'm still watching closely.
And Mama G
Putting on some big flower sites. I'm excited to watch her go big on this new feed thing.
Driver was shipped I think so Monday Tuesday will be the frame build.
Still spraying the CS and I'm optimistic?
Also going to blast some Lilly this week. I anticipate a darker extract based on her ripeness but should be some good flavorful meds for sure!
Hope everyone's having a great shatterday. Puff one one me.
Tub looks great Them! Ivy took off once you straightened out the nutes on her and she's blowing up like Abbie did in flower in the same spot 
. Are you growing the ATF to make crosses?
On another note...great QB build info above gang
. Are you growing the ATF to make crosses?On another note...great QB build info above gang
An ATF cross would be cool.
Derbybud
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I like them but I don't have anything to compare them to. I don't I know where I would mount a separate pot but close to the driver anyway. I know I can get more power out of my boards with a different driver or break them into 2 separate circuits and run 2 drivers but if I can keep my umols where I need them should I do that? I'm having the best grow ever running these plants running just my big light. I do have one 260 kit running in the other side of the tent because my plants got too big and it's sticking into the other side of the tent. I'm still not running my single driver 100%. If I had bigger drivers I could bring my light up off my canopy some but with 9 boards I feel I have the light spread and penetration I need at a shorter height.
If money isn't the issue, more light = bigger buds, so if you can run them brighter with a new driver why wouldn't you? The more umols the better!
Derbybud
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Not necessary. If I were to add co2 then yes, but without over 1000 umols your gains are minimal. You would need an enclosed room with perfect environment for it to really help out.
I knew there was a cutoff above which you would need to add CO2 to get more gains, but I never knew it was 1000. Thanks! Have you answered your own question then?
Derbybud
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Mostly. I just want to run thru the whole grow before an official notice. Lol
Tub is looking great Dabber! Keep on keeping on!
Arctic Bowl
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Evening brother
Nope, no trigger pull was waiting to confer with ya.
The flower room is soooo dull now none of the QB are going lmao
Blessed Buds our friend and be well
Nope, no trigger pull was waiting to confer with ya.
The flower room is soooo dull now none of the QB are going lmao
Blessed Buds our friend and be well
Ok kids
Got my meter
What light levels am I shooting for at top of plants, and below the tops
Teach me Seymour
Got my meter
What light levels am I shooting for at top of plants, and below the tops
Teach me Seymour
Ripe1
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Right on Dabber! I went back and read this all. Thank you for posting that video on branch shaking! It made me so happy to put a voice to all the text and pictures. This certainly has become the light thread! Good timing as I am in the market for a new light or mover. Where do you start IF you are looking to build some of the lights you guys are talking about? I went over to the Timber site last night, $200 for a 200Watt light is not really what I'm looking for. Nor is $1200. I like my ViparSpectra 700 a lot. Especially since it was only $329. Thoughts?
Derbybud
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About 1000- 1200 umols on top of canopy. Here's is where a meter helps as you can adjust power with height to achieve that while also looking how the light is spreading to the whole top to try to stay consistent over the whole area.Ok kids
Got my meter
What light levels am I shooting for at top of plants, and below the tops
Teach me Seymour
I hope this is making sense if not I can explain more in detail if need be. And this is for flowering plants. Seedlings start about 200- 300 umols and you work your way up from there so by the time you flip your at 1000. Remember that drivers have a sweet spot to where they're most efficient. 60- 75% . they can blast at 100% all day long just the driver looses efficiency.
That's perfect my friend I checked and I had one light bank was definitely more powerful than the other 2 as far as turned up so I'm going to go in and adjust them to the same height as well as same power
Wow it’s BRIGHT in here! 
See what I did there lol
Dabbs my man, this is all looking so amazing! How’s the video edits coming? Can’t wait to see your next one! What’s your YouTube handle? Insta??
Have a relaxing Sunday all
See what I did there lol
Dabbs my man, this is all looking so amazing! How’s the video edits coming? Can’t wait to see your next one! What’s your YouTube handle? Insta??
Have a relaxing Sunday all
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Your vipar actually costs about the same per watt as a DIY build. The vipar, which isn't a bad light at all, I have one blasting over half the tub as we speak, just doesnt offer the coverage needed. They say it can cover a 4x4 tent at 24 inches.... I can't even cover my 2.5 x 4.5 tub with one.
The biggest problem with Chinese blurple is 2 fold. Coverage and penatration. Get it high enough to spread the light evenly and the par is too low. Get it the right distance and the coverage sucks cause of the small footprint.
Blurple and boards are the same in the regard that you want to space them S much and as evenly as possible. Ie 4 300 watt Chinese units in a 4x4 instead of 1 "900 or 1200 watt" units.
So let's back up. Right now the vipar costs 225 and gives you 285 watts. Well quick little tidbit, a good amount of that is lost in the 2 fans aboard the unit as well as the fact that some of thag is lost as heat. ARCTICS par 600 I'm borrowing is more or less a space heater...
So all that being said your paying 225 and getting MAYBE 250 watts of good useable light. Well let's go to the next point. Coverage and penatration. The secondary lenses and dense diode configuration is the opposite of what you get with a boards. More even light, less shadows, more penatration.
Here's the kicker 190 dollars (130 in boards and 60 for the driver) will get you 240 watts at the wall. So your actually paying less than the vipar and getting more power! Not to mention the true full spectrum of white leds versus blurple.
You spend less on electricity if you don't have to cool the light and or environment. You get a light with better efficacy and efficiency with white led, while fulfilling more of the plants needs. The return on investment is far greater, and your grow "pays for itself" in less time.
Shoot I mean I know I talk these lights up, and any DIY setups.... but come on, isnt it obious now why haha?
Hopefully this out things into perspective for you ripe. And as always it's GREAT to have you here!!!
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Hey there miss G.Wow it’s BRIGHT in here!
See what I did there lol
Dabbs my man, this is all looking so amazing! How’s the video edits coming? Can’t wait to see your next one! What’s your YouTube handle? Insta??
Have a relaxing Sunday all
There coming.... haha, and so is Christmas Right? No, I'm working on it. Just trying to familiarize with the app for now.
I'm @themad420dabber and my yoiutube link is in my bio.
Hope your Sunday funday is off to a stellar start my friend!!!
Some data on the meanwell 480h-c. The full pdf is available on their website if you aren't aware. Not the best image but you can see the point of diminishing returns @Derbybud is talking about.
Thanks Dabbs! I’ll find you