I use any kind of string and paper clips (the bigger ones) for my LST
Alafornia's 1st Time Multistrain Medical Grow
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Canine246810
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What church you go to? Last time I went to church choir looked like the manson family.
Newfun
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Hey Mr BR, I just started my own fish emulsion today. By 4 weeks all odor will be gone and that's when I bottle and store it. It will only.have a minor vinegar smell. You and Mrs BR should be fine.
You are totally right about the look of my church choir, they were so hard to look at, they were on the balcony behind the pews.
So glad this view is so much better!
You are totally right about the look of my church choir, they were so hard to look at, they were on the balcony behind the pews.
So glad this view is so much better!
Canine246810
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New, not doing it myself its bottled already and its a 1 part system used through the whole plant life. All you have to do is add it to your water adjust the PH and feed. I dont know if I can post the name since ive already had post removed for naming non sponsor products.
Canine246810
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And it is all organic and OMRI certified
Newfun
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It should have no bad smell then. You just use a little bit. Mine will be 1 tablespoon to 1 gallon. That strong stuff. Then just give a regular watering to help encourage the plant to use it. I am even getting some seaweed to add even more micronutrients to it. I hope mine comes out as good as the store stuff. Everyone says it's the best food for the ladies. My outdoor girls are starting to flower and need that boost. Good luck with it. Let me know what you think.
Canine246810
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NF, heres basically whats in it. Hope I didnt miss the name in it somewhere.
100% organic and intended for fast growing annuals. ( ) is a complete one part grow through bloom. We have made it so easy that all you need to do is adjust the PH and add it to your plants. Nutrients have blended Atlantic Menhaden, Norwegian Sea Kelp, Humic Acid, Blood Meal, Sulphate of Potash and proprietary odor neutralizing agents. The medical community is raving about this product because it is so easy to use and the results are fantastic. All of the components within ( ) are carefully assembled to make sure they form a complete cohesive nutrient source that provides everything the plant needs in a timely fashion that leaves the plant full and satisfied. The ingredients in feed the soil microbiology who in turn break down the larger organic particles into bite sized portions that the plant can easily take up and utilize. Everything working in perfect harmony. Blood meal and sulfate of potash are combined with the Menhaden to boost the nutrient levels in Natural Fertilizer. Together, the kelp, fish, blood meal and sulfate of potash provide all of the elements needed to grow healthy, vigorous plants. In addition to these ingredients we add a number of other natural additives such as Humates and an odor neutralizing agent that serve to condition the soil, reduce transplant shock and chelate the nutrients. Chelated nutrients are protected against leaching into the groundwater and are more readily available for plant uptake. is the easiest organic nutrient to use on the market, all that is needed is to add 20-30 mls of per gallon of water and adjust the PH to the desired level. Fertilize your plants once or twice a week as needed. When watering or fertilizing try to achieve a 5-10% run off so that any build up is gently flushed.
Newfun
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BR that sounds great. I am not sure, but I think cannabis needs the food less frequently depending on medium. I will use well draining soil and would feed every 3 - 4 weeks inside. Outdoors depends on rainfall etc. More like the 2 weeks. Emilya knows way more than me about that. Just don't want nute burns or lock out for you. I already made that mistake lol. Also, Emilya has a lactobacillus recipe that's easy to make that can be very beneficial to use in conjunction with that. I think you made a great choice from everything I have read and learned. Make sure you take good pictures of before and after. Blessing on a great grow.
I would skip the FIM if I were you! Many growers with more experience haven't successfully FIMmed and it slows down the training even further when it doesn't work.
If you want to do a quadline, @Dutchman1990 did a great tutorial on it a while back that I will dig up for you. He does great tutorials!
Topping and training is pretty easy, as you just cut the top off (leaving ½" of stem above the node you're keeping to prevent splitting down the line), and then slowly tie the top nodes lower and lower. Then, as the lower nodes grow taller, you keep new growth even with the top nodes.
LST is good too, but some of your plants might be getting a bit too tall to get the top tied down to the edge of the pot without breaking anything off.
If you want to do a quadline, @Dutchman1990 did a great tutorial on it a while back that I will dig up for you. He does great tutorials!
Topping and training is pretty easy, as you just cut the top off (leaving ½" of stem above the node you're keeping to prevent splitting down the line), and then slowly tie the top nodes lower and lower. Then, as the lower nodes grow taller, you keep new growth even with the top nodes.
LST is good too, but some of your plants might be getting a bit too tall to get the top tied down to the edge of the pot without breaking anything off.
Canine246810
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Hey Ala this is some serious training right here. I think my first grow. I let plants get too big and then when I tried to train them it was difficult. I snapped alot of stems and my plants got some serious knuckles. The end result wasnt so bad but I hope I dont make the same mistake again. But this is how we learn we try different techniques to see which is best for us. Not everyone can master all the tips and tricks but you can try em out until you find what you are good at.
Canuckush
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Check out OG Spring on Google, interesting way to open up the plant without pinning it down.
Ideally, Low Stress Training involves more than just opening the plant up for more light penetration like the OG Spring though. Here is an explanation of how LST works:
Cannabis plants grow up to the sun. They have a top (apical) cola and side branching. Most of the growth hormones (auxins) go to that apical cola, which is why an untrained plant often has a beautiful huge bud on top and then progressively smaller buds as you head toward the soil. Topping a plant tells the plant that there is no longer an apical cola (damage alert!!!) so it needs to send the auxins to other branches to assure its chances to pass on its genetics. You then end up with two tops from that one.
LST is a method for tricking the plant into thinking it no longer has an apical cola without actually removing it. The method involves pulling the top down flat so that it's not higher than the rest of the plant. The plant still thinks it's lost its apical cola and begins to send the growth hormones to the rest of the branches, but there is no recovery time as there is with topping because nothing has been cut.
As each of the lower branch grows in response, it gets tied down toward the outside of the pot, allowing light and air to get to the rest of the plant, and forcing the plant to continue to evenly spread the auxins.
Even after topping, we use LST to prevent the plant from making the two top branches its apical colas, by tying them lower than the rest of the plant. That way we get much stronger growth from the lower branches, as well as new inner growth from the top nodes.
Cannabis plants grow up to the sun. They have a top (apical) cola and side branching. Most of the growth hormones (auxins) go to that apical cola, which is why an untrained plant often has a beautiful huge bud on top and then progressively smaller buds as you head toward the soil. Topping a plant tells the plant that there is no longer an apical cola (damage alert!!!) so it needs to send the auxins to other branches to assure its chances to pass on its genetics. You then end up with two tops from that one.
LST is a method for tricking the plant into thinking it no longer has an apical cola without actually removing it. The method involves pulling the top down flat so that it's not higher than the rest of the plant. The plant still thinks it's lost its apical cola and begins to send the growth hormones to the rest of the branches, but there is no recovery time as there is with topping because nothing has been cut.
As each of the lower branch grows in response, it gets tied down toward the outside of the pot, allowing light and air to get to the rest of the plant, and forcing the plant to continue to evenly spread the auxins.
Even after topping, we use LST to prevent the plant from making the two top branches its apical colas, by tying them lower than the rest of the plant. That way we get much stronger growth from the lower branches, as well as new inner growth from the top nodes.
Canine246810
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Very well explained! Makes sense I broke stems but didnt cut them which is probably why they recovered quickly. I have gotten better but still in crop growing training. I had the 3 plants in photos and all bs aside i tried different trainging on them to see which got better results. It was all bag seed so not a issue on tossing money down the drain.
Thanks BR...I've got an entire thread on LST in my sig!
As long as you have time for your plant to recover (i.e. in no rush to flip), you'll never throw money down the drain with different training methods. I have a plant that I did nothing but LST and supercropping on. It's enormous now, but not too tall!
Canine246810
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True. I just bought a bunch of seeds, regular, feminised and auto. I think im ready for the next episode. Have been setting tent up for their arrival.
Empty tent, new beans, new adventure!
DeanWest89
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Just wanted to show what some training can do this is 1 plant 105 days in veg the possibilities are endless my friend just a matter of how much time you want to spend
Next time I’ll run 4 plants I’ll only have to veg a fraction in the time for the same yields , but I already had 3 so I could only do one in this tent
Next time I’ll run 4 plants I’ll only have to veg a fraction in the time for the same yields , but I already had 3 so I could only do one in this tent
Thanks Shed! Appreciate the kind words!
As requested here is the Quadline Tutorial also found in my signature!
Dutchman’s Quadline Tutorial
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Thank you, everyone! After checking on the plants last night I came in and crashed before I could even upload pics. I'm going to just upload a few tops and pick up on this this evening. I think I'll need to figure it out before this weekend so I can get it done then. Leaning heavily toward LST as I don't need to spend much more time in veg. Not saying I'm in any big hurry - maybe another month give or take before flipping. After this first grow is done I can slow down a bit. Haven't been able to check out @Dutchman1990 's tutorial but I will try this evening.
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Just tops tonight.
I did take some of Nikita’s 11 blade leaves so here they are
Still recovering. I crashed hard last night.
I did take some of Nikita’s 11 blade leaves so here they are
Still recovering. I crashed hard last night.