AKGramma's Perpetual Grow

[AKgramma]

I hate reading that, but all the same... I know the feeling. If you've no reason to do a thing, sanity dictates you stop.

I understand that motivation, too.

I just use this as my forum landing page:
https://www.420magazine.com/community/watched/threads

No opt-in email spamming required, lol (I'm automatically subscribed to threads that I post in). Then, if I have time and the Spirit so moves me, I can visit:
https://www.420magazine.com/community/find-threads/unanswered
...to see if anyone needs help (that I am able to provide) or there's some new information I can learn.

If I then have any remaining time and motivation, I can then check out:
New posts

I DO have WATCHED THREADS as a landing page, but I dont get many emails from the watched threads, just those from the NEW Threads. I have to go search for my buddies on a daily basis to see what they are doing. That takes a lot of time I dont have.

As for unanswered, This is the first I've see of this link. Will have to try it out. TY, TS!

UPDATE: Tried it and there are NONE of my watched threads listed there. :-(

 

[TorturedSoul]

I DO have WATCHED THREADS as a landing page, but I dont get many emails from the watched threads, just those from the NEW Threads. I have to go search for my buddies on a daily basis to see what they are doing. That takes a lot of time I dont have.

I cannot offer help there. (Not being a fan of the concept, my goal is to avoid unsolicited emails...) I assume there's a User CP setting that sets a variable per user, and that user can also optionally set them per subscribed thread. That's two possible fail points (if the forum software is giving you some thread update emails, it could be that your per-thread settings got pooched - which might have happened without your input (forum software switch, upgrade of current forum component, <BLEEP>up by someone working behind the scenes attempting to "fix" things, lol, et cetera). Assuming your email information is correct, and further assuming that the correct amount of emails are actually getting sent, your email host is a third potential failure point. As your specific email application (or set of same, if using multiple ones), if not using your email host's "webmail" interface. Could be that a spam filter is eating them - and not necessarily a filter that YOU have created; as far as I know, even some email account hosts that have "Spam" folders to direct individual customers' sketchy emails to do not automatically pass every email they receive on to the customer... If one - or its filters - perceive/determine that an entity is sending spam to multiple accounts, it may then "prune" them all from its message store at a higher level. In such a case, one would have to have a discussion (possibly multiple ones ) with said email host's technical support people, and that would require getting past the veg-head script-reading initial "support" level.

Or one could set up one's own email server, I suppose.

As for unanswered, This is the first I've see of this link. Will have to try it out. TY, TS!

UPDATE: Tried it and there are NONE of my watched threads listed there. :-(

Well, no, of course not. You may have noticed that those threads only have the one initial post, each (or that the category is labeled "Unanswered" , perhaps? You can, of course, subscribe to one or more of them - but the moment one of those threads receives a reply post... it is no longer an unanswered one and, therefore, will no longer appear on that particular list.

I assume that you have posted about your issue in the relevant section here. I thought about asking if you'd considered requesting that your account settings be reset - but that option would clear your entire list of subscribed threads, lol, and I have no idea whether or not this particular piece of software (Did you think I was going to type a different word, there? It was recently brought to my attention that a bit of the inner arse has been shining through the cracks, so I've been working on that fake cheerfulness sh!t - maybe I can get decent at it and become a newscaster, LMAO.) , has such an option.

 

[Weaselcracker]

AK I don’t understand from your explanation why the ‘watched threads’ list isn’t working for you- it seems like a pretty simple setup. But i guess I probably don’t have any advice to offer even if I did. I’m on iPhone and I think you’re on computer. I know you’ve been beating your head against the wall with this in the past.
And I know you don’t visit my journal anymore and have been my most faithful follower in the past.
Sorry to see you go, if you do.

 

[SweetSue]

Me too..... I’m sorry to hear our “upgrade” has been a PITA for you. I struggle with its limitations every day. *sigh*

I’m subbed to a massive number of threads, and it’s been that way since my first win. I’ve learned to scroll through the seemingly endless pages of lists until one lights up, and then I visit there, but that was much easier to do when the listings weren’t limited to so few a page.

That notifications page we lost was so much easier to live with. I feel the same way you do gramma, like I’m losing out on the social aspect this site used to excel at. It’s too easy to miss my friend’s listings with the new platform.

Have you lost your love of growing? Do you think you’ll really be happy without new cuttings and seeds setting roots? I find I go a little nuts without the whirl of the fans. Lol!

You have a few years on me and the productions demands have lightened, haven’t they? This may be the universe telling you it’s time to step away. How’s that thought feel? Do me a favor and get really happy before you make that decision and go with what feels best.

Even if you only grow one..... we hate to think of one of our own without the thrill of growing being in their daily experience.

And even if you’re not growing there’s much you can contribute to the conversations. We’d miss you.

 

[AKgramma]

Me too..... I’m sorry to hear our “upgrade” has been a PITA for you. I struggle with its limitations every day. *sigh*

I’m subbed to a massive number of threads, and it’s been that way since my first win. I’ve learned to scroll through the seemingly endless pages of lists until one lights up, and then I visit there, but that was much easier to do when the listings weren’t limited to so few a page.

That notifications page we lost was so much easier to live with. I feel the same way you do gramma, like I’m losing out on the social aspect this site used to excel at. It’s too easy to miss my friend’s listings with the new platform.

Have you lost your love of growing? Do you think you’ll really be happy without new cuttings and seeds setting roots? I find I go a little nuts without the whirl of the fans. Lol!

You have a few years on me and the productions demands have lightened, haven’t they? This may be the universe telling you it’s time to step away. How’s that thought feel? Do me a favor and get really happy before you make that decision and go with what feels best.

Even if you only grow one..... we hate to think of one of our own without the thrill of growing being in their daily experience.

And even if you’re not growing there’s much you can contribute to the conversations. We’d miss you.

Sue: I'm glad you understand. You hit all points right on.

Somehow, we lost the feeling of community, and I think, for me, it is the inability to keep a constant line of communication with my buddies. Having to search for WC, Pita, TS, Sypherz, you, and others who have helped and inspired me along the way, is difficult. I miss them dropping into my mailbox.

As I get older, I have the need to simplify my life. Just because I'm closing down this grow when it reaches harvest, doesn't mean I won't be lurking. Just not as often. When I have free time, I can get caught up on my grow buddies' Journals.

Anything that is too complicated for this old mind to navigate, I stopped frustrating myself trying to keep up. But taking a break from growing is necessary, since the family changed where and how they get their buds. And, as I said before, I have enough for my self to last years.

This is where I'm at right now. Maybe later on, while I browse other's forums and drop a piece of advice now and then, I might get inspired to grow again.

Like you said, Sue: even just one. One really, really BIG mother! I could handle that.

 

[AKgramma]

AK I don’t understand from your explanation why the ‘watched threads’ list isn’t working for you- it seems like a pretty simple setup. But i guess I probably don’t have any advice to offer even if I did. I’m on iPhone and I think you’re on computer. I know you’ve been beating your head against the wall with this in the past.
And I know you don’t visit my journal anymore and have been my most faithful follower in the past.
Sorry to see you go, if you do.

I'll still be lurking and probably offering bits of advice. Just taking a break from growing. I have been visiting your journal, just not hitting LIKE as often. A lot of fellow growers have evolved way beyond my level, with equipment and methods I will never try.

We'll see if I get inspired to grow again, that one huge Mother I have dreamed of growing.

 

[AKgramma]

I cannot offer help there. (Not being a fan of the concept, my goal is to avoid unsolicited emails...) I assume there's a User CP setting that sets a variable per user, and that user can also optionally set them per subscribed thread. That's two possible fail points (if the forum software is giving you some thread update emails, it could be that your per-thread settings got pooched - which might have happened without your input (forum software switch, upgrade of current forum component, <BLEEP>up by someone working behind the scenes attempting to "fix" things, lol, et cetera). Assuming your email information is correct, and further assuming that the correct amount of emails are actually getting sent, your email host is a third potential failure point. As your specific email application (or set of same, if using multiple ones), if not using your email host's "webmail" interface. Could be that a spam filter is eating them - and not necessarily a filter that YOU have created; as far as I know, even some email account hosts that have "Spam" folders to direct individual customers' sketchy emails to do not automatically pass every email they receive on to the customer... If one - or its filters - perceive/determine that an entity is sending spam to multiple accounts, it may then "prune" them all from its message store at a higher level. In such a case, one would have to have a discussion (possibly multiple ones ) with said email host's technical support people, and that would require getting past the veg-head script-reading initial "support" level.

Or one could set up one's own email server, I suppose.



Well, no, of course not. You may have noticed that those threads only have the one initial post, each (or that the category is labeled "Unanswered" , perhaps? You can, of course, subscribe to one or more of them - but the moment one of those threads receives a reply post... it is no longer an unanswered one and, therefore, will no longer appear on that particular list.

I assume that you have posted about your issue in the relevant section here. I thought about asking if you'd considered requesting that your account settings be reset - but that option would clear your entire list of subscribed threads, lol, and I have no idea whether or not this particular piece of software (Did you think I was going to type a different word, there? It was recently brought to my attention that a bit of the inner arse has been shining through the cracks, so I've been working on that fake cheerfulness sh!t - maybe I can get decent at it and become a newscaster, LMAO.) , has such an option.

Been there, done that, got too tired to continue the struggle. It's not so much the program, as it is my being so used to receiving notifications for JUST my WATCHED FORUMS. My grow buddies are lost in the hundreds of new growers. Hard to carry on a meaningful conversation when you're in a crowd of hundreds.

I am sure that is the case for my journal too, since I'm not trying anything new anymore, just trying to get one nice-looking crop, like I used to.

 

[Weaselcracker]

Well I guess we have flogged this horse before - but I have to admit I’m confused about what you and Sue mean. I get alerts near the top of the screen when someone posts in a thread I’m subbed to, quotes my post, or mentions my name. From those alerts I can go directly to the posts.
Also under ‘watched threads’ I have a similar list to what we used to have in the subscriptions list in the old format. I don’t have to look through all the other journals and thread unless I want to.

I also have serious reservations about the new format but that’s partly to do with a very negative experience with it in the early days.

 

[Tony Urban]

I get pleasure out of growing any plant. I have been doing really well with a spider plant lol. It’s now 3 separate plants.

Since you have an abundance of meds, and family are getting theirs elsewhere, I would probably do the same and save some money on electricity and time.

I have been struggling to follow folks in the new web format. Especially popular journals and threads. I have a hard time keeping up. Hard time finding them regularly. So I had to delete all my “watched” threads. Then go back and add just a few at a time to limit how many I follow and balance them with the available time and attention I have. That meant far less grow journals using different methods. Less medical threads. Even then it’s a challenge. I won’t win a popularity contest but I can say with a modicum of certainty that those I do follow, I follow with my complete attention. Like this one

I say very little here because I am too new and inexperienced to provide any input. But I hope to still see you around lurking. I have a special place in my heart for Alaskans.

 

[Pennywise]

Navigation has gotten much faster for me, my watched threads keep me up on all my homies.

 

[Amy Gardner]

Yeah - it’s what the new system does with the email alerts that’s ruined things for folks like AK and Duggan.

I tried many times to see if it could behave the way it used to but the new system is pretty unintuitive (IMHO) regarding email notifications. E.g., if you don’t visit a thread for a while it stops notifying you of new posts - this seems stupid to me but I was informed it’s quite usual and the way it’s supposed to ‘work’. Also - the emails will stop if you never click the link in the email to visit the thread from there. That also makes no sense to me. But - as we’re told, this is how it ‘works’ and it won’t be changing.

I’m like others who don’t like email anyway but I really feel for those who relied on them.

And I agree with Sue’s comment about the small number of items that fit on the watched threads list pages - or any list pages actually. I asked about that during the changeover troubleshoot too, a few times, but it didn’t get a response.
Ive been wondering if it isn’t time to revisit some of those questions and chase the Mod team a bit now that some time had passed and the 420 offices relocation should have settled. Like the blogs for example... I might take a deep breath and dive back in there - I annoyed them pretty badly trying to get stuff sorted out before (this emails thing mostly), hopefully they won’t mind if I do so again.

Sorry to just dive in boots n all AK!

I can say that I’ve benefited from a break in growing and having time to just cruise the forums. My growing career is in the very nascent stages though so my situation is really different. But... Maybe after a break you’ll get back into it with a whole new flow...

 

[TorturedSoul]

even just one. One really, really BIG mother! I could handle that.

Grab a piece of 2"-hole poultry netting, a 25-gallon Rubbermaid tote, lol, and... (single-plant DWC scrog monster)

It'd be nice if you could somehow look at your family no longer requiring Gramma to do for them as a refreshing break, a chance to finally have fun.

<SHRUGS> Or maybe you do, but your idea of fun just doesn't happen to involve growing cannabis. IF so, well, I can certainly respect that.

so used to receiving notifications for JUST my WATCHED FORUMS.

I just browsed through the "issues" section of the forum and didn't see much in the way of complaints, so this must be functioning for some. That tells me it's a configuration issue. Is there anyone on the staff that you trust completely, so much so that you'd be willing to turn over your email account particulars (with a temporary password, I imagine) so that they could "assume your persona" for a few days, possibly up to a week?

This could involve a bit of monotonous work, lol, so it would be helpful if said hypothetical trusted staff member owed you a whopping big favor .

But it would surely allow them to determine the exact nature of your issue and then solve it for you. Unless... I guess, if you do not exclusively use your email provider's "webmail" interface, that you might somehow have a filter set up in whichever email application you use. In which case the issue could have its source in one of those.

Look, cannabis isn't exactly demonized in Alaska, lol. Isn't there a reasonably bright 12-year old in your neighborhood you can talk into doing some troubleshooting on this one for you as a favor? Maybe offer him a tray of cookies or something, whatever twelve-year old boys most desire (15-year old girls, I suppose - some things never change, and a twelve-year old is a twelve-year old no mater what era he lives in).

Well I guess we have flogged this horse before - but I have to admit I’m confused about what you and Sue mean. I get alerts near the top of the screen when

The email notifications of activity that she is interested in following here is not working for her. One assumes that the on-site stuff still works - unless, like me, she has turned most of it off - but that isn't what she's interested in.

I don't think she lives with some sort of electronic communications device surgically-implanted like some folks do. With the former forum software, she got email updates (whether live or all-in-one digest format, IDK) that told her of new activity in the threads she was interested in and, at a guess, even provided a handy link to the thread(s).

During the software transition, a lot of people encountered various issues. Most of them seem to have been resolved (or, at least, workarounds/kludges found). And, when you consider the numbers, all but one out of 145,000+ members is a respectable failure rate .

But her account seems to have fallen through the cracks, as it were. That "success statistic" isn't at all helpful if you happen to be the one non-success. A once-enjoyable activity has, instead, become a source of frustration. And I do have some concern that she isn't "the ONE" account for which the software change has been a failure - merely the one person who has continued to try dealing with the issue and been vocal about it. In other words... Might there have been others who just quietly gave up and moved on?

 

[TorturedSoul]

I tried many times to see if it could behave the way it used to but the new system is pretty unintuitive (IMHO) regarding email notifications. E.g., if you don’t visit a thread for a while it stops notifying you of new posts - this seems stupid to me but I was informed it’s quite usual and the way it’s supposed to ‘work’. Also - the emails will stop if you never click the link in the email to visit the thread from there. That also makes no sense to me. But - as we’re told, this is how it ‘works’ and it won’t be changing.

Seriously? Maybe how the developer of <CENSORED> thinks it's supposed to work...

However... If you gather a random sampling of adults together and observe them - and you observe that it's only the poor SOB that's forced to wear a football helmet to prevent minimize self-injuries who masturbates in public and chews gum he finds on the sidewalk...

Should you then base anything on what you observe that one individual doing?

And I agree with Sue’s comment about the small number of items that fit on the watched threads list pages - or any list pages actually.

It was nice to be able to display 40 items on a page, wasn't it? <SIGH>

This thing was getting complaints on the <CENSORED>'s community support forum seven years ago (FFS!). The developer did a thing, couldn't figure out how to reconcile that thing with user-configurable "per page" settings (although suggestions were offered - developer must have a severe case of "Not Invented Here" syndrome ), and refused to fix it. As a result, you end up with ONE (global) "per page" setting. At the time (seven years ago), someone pointed out that changing that setting had the side-effect of breaking page-links, lol - and that was the point at which I stopped considering that forum software for my own use. I am no longer in a position where I have to make such decisions, and I do not miss it; I do not own, administer, or staff at ANY forums - and only even visit a few as a user. Being "on the other side of the screen" was a RPITA even when things went well, lol.

I asked about that during the changeover troubleshoot too, a few times, but it didn’t get a response.
Ive been wondering if it isn’t time to revisit some of those questions and chase the Mod team a bit now that some time had passed and the 420 offices relocation should have settled. Like the blogs for example... I might take a deep breath and dive back in there - I annoyed them pretty badly trying to get stuff sorted out before (this emails thing mostly), hopefully they won’t mind if I do so again.

Yeah, me, too. I've stopped myself several times from posting in our "issues" area (and will continue to do so, because I figure people must get tired of reading complaints about things that they either can't or won't fix). I only broke down and posted about the missing link to the Sponsors page because those entities PAY for having a presence here (and because, at the end of the day, we wouldn't have this forum without their monetary contributions).

Sorry to just dive in boots n all

Ah, women in boots . Did you have leather mini-skirts in the '80s with slits all the way up both sides, loosely connected with large-link silver chains, lol?

Err... sorry, wrong forum. Must have thought this was "Why DOES ~TS~ Have so Much Gray, Anyway?" or something .

EDIT:

if you don’t visit a thread for a while it stops notifying you of new posts - this seems stupid to me but I was informed it’s quite usual and the way it’s supposed to ‘work’. Also - the emails will stop if you never click the link in the email to visit the thread from there. That also makes no sense to me. But - as we’re told, this is how it ‘works’ and it won’t be changing.

Funny (not really), but the developer of every other forum I've dealt with was fine with the whole "If you no longer wish to receive these messages, please follow this link to unsubscribe from these notifications." That, plus they're familiar with the concept of bounced emails - and what such things signify.

People who decide there's a reason to change one thing - and then decide that the resulting product is still too similar, so they then change as many things as they can think of, just because they figure their product ought to have N number of changes, minimum...

...really piss me off. IDK when the trend started, but I wish they'd reinstate the draft or something so all these <BLEEPS> with too much time on their hands could go do something at least slightly more useful.

 

[Weaselcracker]

.. I might take a deep breath and dive back in there - I annoyed them pretty badly

I’ll cheer you on. I don’t think at this point it does any good for me to say anything, anywhere, ever... I have a suspicion the same goes for - everyone else.

 

[AKgramma]

Well, at least we got a conversation going on! LOL! I SOOOOO miss our conversations! For me, growing is a community thing. Sharing with like-minded people makes up for the hard work and the eternal battle with mites, fungi, and high electric bills.

Since the family "deserted" me, there's just you folks. I just wish the new 420 had a better system for us to communicate with those we WANT to communicate with.

 

[Weaselcracker]

Things ebb and flow at 420, same as in the rest of life. Though most of the time I can’t tell for sure whether what I’m seeing on the forum is real, or just a mirror of whatever mood I’m in on that day or some BS I might have dreamed up.

 

[AKgramma]

Four days later, there is noticeable growth in the plants in veg.

All plants (except the Purple Kush clone) were "born" between 4/5 & 4/28/2018. (approx 7 - 10 weeks old)

They vary from 7" (the ATF runt) through 15" ( the AKDC47, back right)

The ATF's got fimmed today. The height of the previously fimmed plants is due to the two new leaders. Everyone is in a hurry to grow up. I think this is due to the fact that we in Anchorage are rapidly nearing the 19.5 hour daylight mark on the Solstice. Some of the sun's particles go through everything, so even indoor plants respond to the increased energy.

A snapshot of the plants in veg today, lights off, flash only.

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• AKgramma
• Jun 17, 2018

The Purple Kush is only 11 inches, and was cloned in January. It's just a mess of small leaves, all spotty from mite treatments. I don't expect much more growth until I switch to flower.

 

[Pennywise]

The Afghani is looking sharp!

 

[TorturedSoul]

Some of the sun's particles go through everything, so even indoor plants respond to the increased energy.

You are positing that neutrinos have a measurable effect on plant growth? Interesting...

Without putting a great deal of thought into the matter, I'd have to guess this to be pretty unlikely, since most of them are able to pass through the entire planet without interacting with matter; they only interact via the weak force and gravity - and, since their mass is on the order of about a millionth of what an electron masses, gravity is barely able to effect them (it's not much of a factor on the subatomic scale).

But there is some interaction, nonetheless (think one or two grains of sand out of all the sand on all the beaches on the planet); were this not the case, they'd have been even more difficult to detect in the first place, and we probably still wouldn't know for sure that they have any mass at all. Therefore, I cannot discount your theory outright.

Could be that you are partially correct - that there is some kind of causal link between Sol and plant growth indoors. It's actually farther away in Summer, so maybe something to do with slight gravimetric changes has some kind of effect. Or even indirectly... people tend to be more active in the warmer months, which can mean a slightly(?) greater concentration of CO₂. Or, if it's warm enough, you might have your windows open, IDK. Less buildup of CO₂ that way - but more opportunities to refresh the air, meaning it shouldn't drop below ambient (outdoor) amounts, would have higher O₂ levels for the roots to access, et cetera.

Or you might be absolutely correct, lol. I'm certainly no scientist.

 

[AKgramma]

TS: My cat lives completely indoors under a constant temperature and, yet, twice a year, he sheds his seasonal coat and his color tips lighten or darken accordingly.

Any success I had cloning occurred in late Spring to early Summer, even tho they were not exposed to true sunshine, but under artificial light and even temps. Cloning in winter was always a complete failure, regardless of method.

Those of us who make tinctures, regardless of herb, start them at the new moon, so that as the moon waxes, the more of the essence of the herb is drawn out into the carrier oil/alcohol.

During the winter, I notice that the ladies in veg grow slower, even tho they are under controlled lighting.

I could go on, but I won't.

So, I do believe there is more happening in the atmosphere than we can scientifically explain, that affects all living things.