AKGramma's Perpetual Grow

CBD Yummy "C" sprouted, but never raised its head. It rotted at the crook of the stem and the whole thing withered away. "A" and "B" doing well. I bent them down and covered their stems with soil, because they seemed to be stretched out a bit, even though the light was right down on them. I've done this in the past, and I know the leaves will turn up in a few hours.

Still holding out hope for the last two seeds to pop.

BTW, I was thrilled that the voters in Fairbanks and the North Star Borough didn't give in to the 2 propositions that would have banned cannibus within their boundaries. that would have ruined 4 growers who provide cannibus to the entire State and many shops in Alaska's interior. The vote was 60% against the two propositions! It was the largest turn-out of voters in recent memory!

I'm glad that common sense prevailed! It would have been foolish to kill the Golden Goose.
 
GOOD NEWS TODAY!

CBD Yummy babies: Still no sign of the last two sprouts, but I remembered that the two who DID sprout are Fems (since CBDCrew only sells Yummy as a FEM). So I will have cloning material!

More good news: The Arjan's Haze and AK 47 x Durban Poison I harvested last week and trimmed back 2/3rd are revegging! In spite of the dead leaves and sad-looking stems, there are new branches forming! I expected the Arjan's Haze to reveg for me again, and the Haze seems to be a vigorous strain that takes a lot of punishment. The AK 47 X DP was a Hail Mary attempt to bring her back as a clone mother. I am very happy with both of them!

And yet MORE good news! The 18 cuttings I took from the AK 47 X DP as I harvested her, are starting to show some green! They were leafless sticks when I stuck them into the DIY cloning jar, and left them in a semi-lighted spot in the veg unit last week. But I REALLY wanted to save this lone lady and perpetuate the strain.

The challenge ahead is to find room to keep 4 strains alive in a space-limited perpetual grow.
AK 48
AK 47 x Durban Poison
Arjan's Haze
CBD Yummy

I'm going to have to get creative.....
:hmmm:
 
AKgramma said:
GOOD NEWS TODAY!

CBD Yummy babies: Still no sign of the last two sprouts, but I remembered that the two who DID sprout are Fems (since CBDCrew only sells Yummy as a FEM). So I will have cloning material!

More good news: The Arjan's Haze and AK 47 x Durban Poison I harvested last week and trimmed back 2/3rd are revegging! In spite of the dead leaves and sad-looking stems, there are new branches forming! I expected the Arjan's Haze to reveg for me again, and the Haze seems to be a vigorous strain that takes a lot of punishment. The AK 47 X DP was a Hail Mary attempt to bring her back as a clone mother. I am very happy with both of them!

And yet MORE good news! The 18 cuttings I took from the AK 47 X DP as I harvested her, are starting to show some green! They were leafless sticks when I stuck them into the DIY cloning jar, and left them in a semi-lighted spot in the veg unit last week. But I REALLY wanted to save this lone lady and perpetuate the strain.

The challenge ahead is to find room to keep 4 strains alive in a space-limited perpetual grow.
AK 48
AK 47 x Durban Poison
Arjan's Haze
CBD Yummy

I'm going to have to get creative.....
:hmmm:
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I hear ya there girl. :laughtwo: I started with only the DDA and Carnival as perpetual regulars. Now I have CBD Critical Cure and Candy Cane as well. You see how I sacrificed my bathroom to keep up with current production. LOL!

Hash Hound's friend the Klone King, maintains a closet where he keeps clones until he needs them in rotation. He grows them to a particular size and then clones them and tosses the mothers if it's not time to slip them into the grow. It's an interesting alternative to bonsai mothers. Minimal space, minimal light, steady supply of whatever you want to keep around without taking up the entire grow with those chemovars.

One of these days I'll figure out the best location in my shrinking living space I can convert. :laughtwo:

All that good news.....makes a girl feel like she's doing something very right, doesn't it? :battingeyelashes: I haven't tried a reveg yet, and now that I'm in hempy it may be a while before the opportunity presents itself. Those Jamaican genetics are hearty. Have you tried the harvest yet?
 
AKgramma said:
CBD Yummy "C" sprouted, but never raised its head. It rotted at the crook of the stem and the whole thing withered away. "A" and "B" doing well. I bent them down and covered their stems with soil, because they seemed to be stretched out a bit, even though the light was right down on them. I've done this in the past, and I know the leaves will turn up in a few hours.

Still holding out hope for the last two seeds to pop.

BTW, I was thrilled that the voters in Fairbanks and the North Star Borough didn't give in to the 2 propositions that would have banned cannibus within their boundaries. that would have ruined 4 growers who provide cannibus to the entire State and many shops in Alaska's interior. The vote was 60% against the two propositions! It was the largest turn-out of voters in recent memory!

I'm glad that common sense prevailed! It would have been foolish to kill the Golden Goose.
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Well.... this news gives me hope. The message is beginning to trickle down to the base. :battingeyelashes: :Love:
 
SweetSue said:
I hear ya there girl. :laughtwo: I started with only the DDA and Carnival as perpetual regulars. Now I have CBD Critical Cure and Candy Cane as well. You see how I sacrificed my bathroom to keep up with current production. LOL!

Hash Hound's friend the Klone King, maintains a closet where he keeps clones until he needs them in rotation. He grows them to a particular size and then clones them and tosses the mothers if it's not time to slip them into the grow. It's an interesting alternative to bonsai mothers. Minimal space, minimal light, steady supply of whatever you want to keep around without taking up the entire grow with those chemovars.

One of these days I'll figure out the best location in my shrinking living space I can convert. :laughtwo:

All that good news.....makes a girl feel like she's doing something very right, doesn't it? :battingeyelashes: I haven't tried a reveg yet, and now that I'm in hempy it may be a while before the opportunity presents itself. Those Jamaican genetics are hearty. Have you tried the harvest yet?
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The Jamaican buds are still curing. It took a full week to get them dry enough to jar, and so they've only been jarred a few days. I won't know till I let one of my beta-smokers try it out. being heavily Sativa, it's bound to be a heady daytime high. :-)

I don't generally keep mothers long enough to take up too much room, because they have a habit of going to flower while still in veg. By then, however, I have enough clones to keep the strain going. When the time is right, I let the mothers go to flower and harvest. How healthy they are at harvest determines if I think they should have another chance at reveg. And even then, if they look the survivor of a nuclear war, I STILL give them a chance to reveg.

After a couple years of not having any luck revegging the Bubblelicious, I'm having good luck revegging anything that has AK 47 in the parentage. The Arjan's Haze so far has cloned well AND revegged... twice!

I am using a very light soil/perlite mix to clone in, scooped out of my 30 gallon recycled soil bin. The pot, soil and baggie (or covered big jar) method seems to work the best for me.

I've followed your guidelines, Sue. Works for me! Even for sticks with lots of nodes.
:circle-of-love:
 
Hi AK

i've subbed in - haven't gone back to catch up yet, will do slowly over time, just jumping in here for the next phase and looking forward to following your grows. :popcorn:
 
Amy Gardner said:
Hi AK

I've subbed in - haven't gone back to catch up yet, will do slowly over time, just jumping in here for the next phase and looking forward to following your grows. :popcorn:
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Welcome to my humble (AKA cheap) grow! It might be easier to browse my gallery first, find out when I uploaded something that interests you, then find the date of the post.

You'll see that I tried a number of cloning, grow methods, and lights, and moved on when some things didn't work for me. I Still haven't wasted money on a real grow tent, but use wire shelving and white tarps. The Plants didn't much care, as long as they got fed. LOL!

BTW, feel free to share here.
 
AKgramma said:
It might be easier to browse my gallery first, find out when I uploaded something that interests you, then find the date of the post.
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Very fine strategy tip, thank you.


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Baby Pics!

These are the two CBD Yummys that lived (out of 5 seeds.) I love the long shaggy leaves.

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A closeup

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I need to switch the big grow unit to veg and the small unit to flower, which means moving bins around! Been putting it off way too long, and the smaller unit is overflowing.
 
Noting that the mature plants have rather weak stems, I gave everyone nutes formulated for their phase of growth: veg or flower.

The ladies in flower got BLOOM and home-made calmag.
The ladies in veg got the all-purpose liquid fertilizer, calmag, and seaweed extract.

I did not feed the clones or the babies, since both sets were started in rejuvenated/amended soil mix/perlite and should not need anything until they are up-potted.

I did switch the residents of one grow unit to the other, and switched their schedules, which gave me a chance to inspect them and pick off the dead leaves. Now the veggies have plenty of room to fill out in the larger unit, and the two AK 48's in flower have their own, smaller space, which they won't outgrow before they are ready for harvest.

Once the revegging Arjan's haze has a decent mass of foliage, she is getting up-potted to a 3 gallon bin. She has been in the 2 gallon recycled kitty litter jug since she was first cloned last year. Fresh soil and more root room will do her good. She is a hardy producer, altho her buds are larfy. I don't have any clones to perpetuate her, so she'll be a mother for a while.

Both the revegging AK 47 X Durban Poison and her stick-clones are coming along nicely. Seeing itty-bitty leaves on the sticks, and even saw a fuzzy root just at the soil line on one. I'll have some clones to give away in a couple months!

:cheertwo:
 
I found some fungus on a few of the sticks in the cloning jar, so I sprayed some of the SNS fungicide on them. it smells like rubber tires! LOL! Secret ingredient?

I also poured nutes and supplements over the soil in the bins left over from last harvest, in preparation for up-potting the Arjan's haze and the 2 CBD Yummy babies. I'll let the soil "cook" for a few days, then start moving in the new residents.

The last batch of clones I double potted, but this time I'll go one plant per bin and see if there is any improvement in growth and stem thickness.
 
GrEeNdAyZ said:
AKgramma, thanks for looking at what I have going! Love what have been doing here!:thumb:
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Your grow looks like mine. So many of my friends have whizzed right past me with fancy lighting, primo Gorilla tents, and installed ventilation. The farthest I'm going to get are wire shelving covered with tarps, Mars 300 panels supplemented with 23w CFLs, desk fans, and other economy equipment.

Oh, and I use Miracle Grow liquid plant food (GASP!) for veg. It's got quite a few other minerals along with the NPK, and I dont have to mix several bottles at various times to fully feed my ladies.

My soil starts with Black Gold potting soil, to which I add 1/3 coarse perlite, 1/3 sand, a healthy dose of earthworm castings, cut-up roots from previous harvests, sprinkled liberally with MYCOS, and recycled leaves from trimming and pruning. I hand mix the blend, because I like the feel of well-prepared soil through my fingers.

I use a Rubbermaid 30 gallon rectangular container with lid to let my soil mature between plantings. Used soil gets dumped in with the unused soil, mixed well, amendments added (generally Miracle Grow all-purpose fertilizer), etc. and allowed to mature. I like to mix it up from the bottom a few times the first month. You'll know it's working because it will be warm.

Some people add earthworms, but I haven't gone that far. That's why I use the earthworm castings. Well, I could ramble on, but my journal says it all, the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. LOL!
 
That's funny...although I use different amendments, I do the same thing with my soil in the same bin. I did use synthetic fertilizers for my outdoor cannabis, but I do go through a big Miracle Grow tub every year with my other plants.

I do have plans to use some other larger gear but kids returning from collage have been in the way so I'll see how that goes soon.

Still can't break down and buy a tent though.
 
Moving the revegging plant and the clones from the smaller unit to the larger unit had dire results. The revegging plants are drying up, and so are the sticks I started as clones 2 weeks ago. The only things I can think of that are different are 1) there are more lights in the larger unit and 2) I fertilized all the plants (but not the clones) a few days ago.

Apparently, the ladies in reveg were not ready to be fed. Their new foliage wilted and the Arjans haze dried up. I trimmed off the really dead twigs and identified any green that looks healthy. Not much there on either plant, but I will hold out hope until they are dried-up sticks and easily pull out of the pots.

If I lose both mothers and the clones, I have their seeds, which accidentally got pollinated by White Castle males.

A family member, who is setting up his own grow, was able to sprout some of my seed from last year's out-of-control cross-pollination experiment. This gives me hope for future AK 47 x Durban Poison hybrids. (with White Castle fathers)

The two repotted CDB Yummy's are enjoying their 3 gallon bins. In just 2 weeks they had a vigorous root system and there was no transplant shock at all. I gave each one her own bin, rather than doubling them up as I did last batch.
 
Looks like I am going to lose the revegging Arjan's Haze and the AK 47 x Durban Poison, as their leaves have dried up and the branches are withering away. The woody stems are still somewhat green and the roots seem to be holding for now, but I am going to call it soon on both, and depend on the hybrid seeds to grow them fresh.

The cloning experiment failed miserably. Just using sticks doesn't work. If I clone the vegging AK 48's, using tried and true methods, I'll have to convert a closet in a spare bedroom, so I can provide the correct lighting for clones and young plants.

I had to unplug one of two Mars 300 LED panels because the plants in the smaller unit were suffering stress from too strong of light. One panel is designed to cover a 24 inch x 24 inch footprint, and the space in question is 36" x 15" (shelving). This leaves me a spare to hang in a new space, supplemented by CFLs.

I had given away my spare clip-on lamps, thinking I would not need them, but now I have to buy 4 more with socket doublers to illuminate the new space. It doesnt have all that much head room, so I need to use flat storage bins instead of tall kitchen trash bins to maintain proper distance from the lights.

I had a short stretch when everything seemed to be going well, and then as winter set in, the health of the ladies declined rapidly, for a number of reasons, mostly related to light issues. Fate dictated that my having one mite-free grow had to be balanced out with other issues. * sigh *

I also discovered that my home-mixed organic soil finally needed nutes, halfway through the flowering period. So I have a lot of ghastly-looking leaves, but the buds are OK for now. If my return to a regular feeding schedule doesn't stop the deterioration, I will have to do an early harvest, to be dried and added to the cooking herbs.

If I have to harvest early, I'm going to do a full run of autos in the big tent, which has the headroom to accommodate them. I have three strains to sprout before the seeds get too old, so might as well do a dedicated auto grow. It's a one-shot deal, since I have nothing to breed them with, and they don't clone.
 
Just finished harvesting the mini buds, and trimming out the small, worthless branches on the AK 48's in flower. This cleaned out a good 40% of the unneeded foliage. I have a decent pile of goodies for herbal use. They were covered with trics, but at 5 weeks, they would not develop much more. many of them were already "done".

I don't think it will be long before the rest of the buds are ready, maybe 3 weeks. That will make a very short flowering period, but I'll take anything I can get right now. Might be a few decent buds for the family, but most of it will be ground into herbs.
 
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