AKGramma's Perpetual Grow

[Jdub95]

So yeah for now the strips don't do shit for me cause at yellow which means it's under 6.2 but idk by how much

 

[Jdub95]

What can I do to change the ph of the soil other then just eep adding water that has a really low ph

would you guys recommend this as opposed to the one I have now?

this one came with a led. Bulb and hood

 

[Jdub95]

The only other way I know to make it cool in the tent is to grab one of those fans but idk how I feel about dropping another 150 in that. Will it actually make it worth it and that much cooler?

 

[SweetSue]

The only other way I know to make it cool in the tent is to grab one of those fans but idk how I feel about dropping another 150 in that. Will it actually make it worth it and that much cooler?

If you hook up a variable speed controller to a fan you can have more control, but the biggest difference can be achieved by pulling in cooler air. Where does your tent pull the air from and what's the ambient temperature of that room?

You want cooler air running through the tents, from floor through ceiling. That doesn't necessarily mean you have to purchase an expensive in line fan, although that could take a lot of the pressure from all that heat build up off the grow. Tead once showed how he taken a sturdy floor fan and rigged it up to pull air through the tent and out through one of the upper vents. He simply rigged that fan up inside the tent so it was blowing through that vent to the outside.

If you stop by his yard and ask he can find that photo for you. At the time he said he'd probably never buy another in line unit.

 

[AKgramma]

What does bbl stand for

In my journal, BBL = Bubblelicious, from Nirvana seeds.

 

[AKgramma]

What can I do to change the ph of the soil other then just eep adding water that has a really low ph

RAISING PH:
Add calmag, or calcium and magnesium in any form you can dissolve it. I use epsom salts for the magnesium. My water has lots of calcium so I dont add that. But ground eggshells, or the water you use to hard-boil eggs in are good sources of calcium. Both are essential elements to grow healthy plants, and will raise your PH naturally.

LOWERING PH:
Add organic matter, peat moss, organic fertilizers, etc, for natural PH down.

 

[AKgramma]

The only other way I know to make it cool in the tent is to grab one of those fans but idk how I feel about dropping another 150 in that. Will it actually make it worth it and that much cooler?

I keep the top of my grow enclosure open to let the heat escape naturally. I have a couple desk fans placed to direct airflow from the room and out the top. I also have a window fan that brings in cool air from outside. You can reverse it to blow out hot air. But the MJ odors will go out with it. LOL!

It's all pretty passive, and cheap.

 

[Weaselcracker]

Jdub95 that ph meter you have is strictly made for testing the ph of the inside of a bag of garbage- though perhaps it might work for kebabs.

I added about 400 ml of ph down

If you had to add 400ml of ph down (acid) to anything - that's real trouble. You should only ever need a few drops or at most a few ml.
I suggest getting a better ph meter, unless you're growing in true soil, in which case you can probably skip measuring ph.

Bbl...

 

[AKgramma]

So yeah for now the strips don't do shit for me cause at yellow which means it's under 6.2 but idk by how much

The liquid drops from the tropical fish store work well, but it's not as easy as sticking a probe into the dirt. But, the liquid drops will be more accurate. Nothing to go haywire, like a dial can.

 

[AKgramma]

Down to 3 clones in water, and they look very sickly. Once the growing tips turn brown, they will get dumped. No sign of root nubs, either.

The babies I transplanted are 8 inches across now, with 4 nodes and healthy leaves. Last weekend, I pinched the fourth bud out to produce the first level of the mainline scaffold. I will let the branches below the first Y grow large enough to clone, before removing them.


The two revegging plants I trimmed out for mainlining are beginning to show growth, having recovered from the extreme trimming required for the method.

The question will be, which will come to harvest first, the revegged and trained, or those started from seed.

 

[AKgramma]

Down to 3 clones in water, and they look very sickly. Once the growing tips turn brown, they will get dumped. No sign of root nubs, either.

The babies I transplanted are 8 inches across now, with 4 nodes and healthy leaves. Last weekend, I pinched the fourth bud out to produce the first level of the mainline scaffold. I will let the branches below the first Y grow large enough to clone, before removing them.


The two revegging plants I trimmed out for mainlining are beginning to show growth, having recovered from the extreme trimming required for the method.

The question will be, which will come to harvest first, the revegged and trained, or those started from seed.

 

[Weaselcracker]

Have you considered trying the perlite cloning method AK? It's worked very well for me. Before I bumped into Tead I used to do the same thing with coco, but perlite maintains a nicer (drier) moisture level.
It's a plastic bin/tray with a hempy style hole at one end to prevent overfilling, a heat mat underneath on low, and about 3 or 4" of perlite. I add a little water once or twice a week. That's about it.
I would think that even plunking a cutting in a cup of perlite would work better than plain water. Finding that level of -constantly moist but not too wet- seems to be the trick. That and temps.

 

[AKgramma]

I did try perlite back when I was attending the Tead Church of Hempy, but had no luck.

It will be at least a month before I have any clone material. I'll go real soil in a baggie, one in clear plastic, and one sticking out of the bag, with the stem in a small bag of soil. The first sign of wilting, it goes into a clear baggie.

 

[AKgramma]

One Arjan's Haze clone is left in the water. There is a millimeter long root showing off a node and the only signs of health on the stem are at the top half-inch. I'm hoping for a miracle here.

The plants in the veg unit look very healthy! This grow, with the newly-mixed soil, is thriving! The seeded plants are growing quickly, already 8 inches tall. I did something right this time.

 

[Radogast]

One Arjan's Haze clone is left in the water. There is a millimeter long root showing off a node and the only signs of health on the stem are at the top half-inch. I'm hoping for a miracle here.

The plants in the veg unit look very healthy! This grow, with the newly-mixed soil, is thriving! The seeded plants are growing quickly, already 8 inches tall. I did something right this time.

If the root isn't longer the next day, I'd put that stem into peat/weak soil in the center of a moist pot.

 

[AKgramma]

I put the last clone out of its misery. It got slimy. Meanwhile, I have healthy plants to tend.

 

[AKgramma]

The seedlings have doubled in size. I pinched out the fan leaves below the 3rd node, but will wait for the side branches to grow out enough to clone. Sue takes clones with 6 nodes, three of them to be prepped for the rooting medium. So, I will be patient.

I have to remember, I'm doing a modified mainline, which means when I have 4 branches, I let it grow out enough to save the second and fourth branches, then trim out everything else. This will give me a possible 8 mains to grow those big buds on.

The advantage of this variation is you save growing-out time. Normal mainlining requires pinching out the tips of the 4 branches and let it grow out to 8.

By selecting the 2nd and 4th node instead of the last topping, you have your finished scaffolding much sooner and can get right to training on a tomato cage.

So far, the mainlining method of training is working well, altho the plants are still very young. I see vigorous growth at the tips, with lost of foliage to choose from. I hope the stems thicken up under the fan to support the scaffolding as it develops. Just in case, however, I'm installing tomato cages early, to tie the final branches to.

It's still a race between the revegged ladies and those from seed. As fast as the seedlings are growing, they may catch up to the older plants.

 

[AKgramma]

Checked on my babies yesterday and saw the AK 47 x Durban Posions were already 12 inches tall with THICK stems! I figured if I am to mainline them, I had better cut those tops now. This strain totally ignored my first pinch-out, so I cut them down to the 3rd node.

This gave me 5 6-node clones; the 3 lower nodes were prepared for rooting.

And DANK???? Holy Batmobile! The Durban Poison's terpenes DOMINATE the room! The leaves are gonna make great capsules, and I predict the smoke will put the family on their keesters!

Hoping the clones take. This is one strain I'd like to keep going a while.

 

[NorCaliwood]

Man, there are a ton of DIY clones around. You can search on 420 for DIY Cloners. You can even make 'willow water' for a cloning solution. Which works better than plain water. You can find out how to make it from a search engine. If you're going to use water, are you using a bubbler in there? Plants need oxygen as much as water. Otherwise, the plant will drown. GL and Keepem Green

 

[AKgramma]

Man, there are a ton of DIY clones around. You can search on 420 for DIY Cloners. You can even make 'willow water' for a cloning solution. Which works better than plain water. You can find out how to make it from a search engine. If you're going to use water, are you using a bubbler in there? Plants need oxygen as much as water. Otherwise, the plant will drown. GL and Keepem Green

I tried all those DYI methods. The only thing that ever worked, but only occasionally, was in soil in plastic baggies, and only during certain parts of the year. I've NEVER had success cloning in winter. Something about the lack of ambient energy up here in the winter.