AKGramma's Perpetual Grow

AKgramma said:
Maybe too heavy on the nutes? Usually a good flush will wash out the built-up salts in the potted plants. Then, when you plant don't add any nutes till your ladies start showing that they need something.

If the soil got heavy and stayed soggy, add coarse perlite, vermiculite, or sand to lighten it up. At least 1/3. I am pretty sure after 3 uses, the Happy Frog is no longer Happy Frog, but something entirely different. So you can't lose anything by trying to remix it.
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Yeah I think maybe it got compacted, but otherwise I'm thinking it just got like calcified or something. I don't know, the whole thing went down in my "Abandoned Journal" which I'm calling the Cannabis Clue Game now lol Since then I've just been using fresh new soil. I know it's wasteful but losing a crop sucks. Any time I've asked someone who to recycle it, they give me some snooty answer about how Fox Farms sucks and I should start with a better base and then leave me hanging on info.

The ash thing... Well so this might seem morbid to some. But I have some cremated remains of some loved ones, and I've never been able to afford a grave site. I wanted to mix up a special potting soil mix with them to grow some Thai Stick, it was their favorite strain. But I always figured it would be too alkaline so I've never tried.
 
TheFertilizer said:
The ash thing... Well so this might seem morbid to some. But I have some cremated remains of some loved ones, and I've never been able to afford a grave site. I wanted to mix up a special potting soil mix with them to grow some Thai Stick, it was their favorite strain. But I always figured it would be too alkaline so I've never tried.
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Find a spot in the wilderness or on the top of a cliff overlooking nature's best and scatter his ashes in the wind. You'll know the spot when you see it. It is a very spiritual thing to do. :circle-of-love:
 
AKgramma said:
Find a spot in the wilderness or on the top of a cliff overlooking nature's best and scatter his ashes in the wind. You'll know the spot when you see it. It is a very spiritual thing to do. :circle-of-love:
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Thank you for this. I need to do this with my husband's remains.
 
AKgramma said:
Find a spot in the wilderness or on the top of a cliff overlooking nature's best and scatter his ashes in the wind. You'll know the spot when you see it. It is a very spiritual thing to do. :circle-of-love:
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Lol whoops I got a little too personal

Yeah I need to find something like that to do some day, I thought growing a plant with their ashes might be the next best thing.
 
TheFertilizer said:
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Lol whoops I got a little too personal

Yeah I need to find something like that to do some day, I thought growing a plant with their ashes might be the next best thing.
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PH is a matter of degree. You can use a pinch instead of the whole urn. Grow that Thai Stick in their memory! :Hookah:

Oh, and you asked what is it that makes soil "cook"... It's the microbes. Microbes break down the complex nutrients into smaller compounds the plant can use. When they break apart molecular compounds (metabolism), heat is released.
 
TheFertilizer said:
Yeah I think maybe it got compacted, but otherwise I'm thinking it just got like calcified or something. I don't know, the whole thing went down in my "Abandoned Journal" which I'm calling the Cannabis Clue Game now lol Since then I've just been using fresh new soil. I know it's wasteful but losing a crop sucks. Any time I've asked someone who to recycle it, they give me some snooty answer about how Fox Farms sucks and I should start with a better base and then leave me hanging on info.

The ash thing... Well so this might seem morbid to some. But I have some cremated remains of some loved ones, and I've never been able to afford a grave site. I wanted to mix up a special potting soil mix with them to grow some Thai Stick, it was their favorite strain. But I always figured it would be too alkaline so I've never tried.
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TheFertilizer said:
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Lol whoops I got a little too personal

Yeah I need to find something like that to do some day, I thought growing a plant with their ashes might be the next best thing.
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AKgramma said:
PH is a matter of degree. You can use a pinch instead of the whole urn. Grow that Thai Stick in their memory! :Hookah:

Oh, and you asked what is it that makes soil "cook"... It's the microbes. Microbes break down the complex nutrients into smaller compounds the plant can use. When they break apart molecular compounds (metabolism), heat is released.
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Agreed a pinch of ashes is enough. The magic doesn't happen because of the quantity used :)
 
As usual, I'm losing the clones one by one. It's been over a week and not seeing any root buds, either in the peat pucks or water. I sprayed for fungus as a last resort, but the survivors don't look perky or healthy. :-(

In spite of the high humidity, the stems of the clones in peat pucks are drying up. Those in water are faring better, but I am getting leaf loss to fungus. Never had fungus before. Strange year.
 
AKgramma said:
As usual, I'm losing the clones one by one. It's been over a week and not seeing any root buds, either in the peat pucks or water. I sprayed for fungus as a last resort, but the survivors don't look perky or healthy. :-(

In spite of the high humidity, the stems of the clones in peat pucks are drying up. Those in water are faring better, but I am getting leaf loss to fungus. Never had fungus before. Strange year.
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I tried cloning in peat pucks, rockwool, and soil before I got a splash cloner(CloneBucket.) Too much green slime, smell, fussing, and failure in peat pucks and rockwool. Straight into soil works pretty well with a 6-10" clone.

Lembatoast has a near 100% successful method where he clones in closed plastic bags - I've never tried it since my CloneBucket has been pretty reliable.
 
Even after applying the SNS fungus spray, the rest of my clones were covered in fungus this morning. So I lost them all. I will not use peat plugs again for cloning. I only have 5 out of 20 cuttings left, and those are in water, slowly rotting away. I have not been able to clone in plain water, either.

So, back to soil and plastic bags. I vaguely remember getting a couple clones with that method, the one Sue uses, but the failure rate is very close to 100%, no matter the cut, the age, upper or lower branch, in veg or in flower, use of powder or not, under lights or dark, with or without a plastic bag. I don't recoupe any of the cost of equipment, so do not see the need to purchase a "cloning device".

I won't have any cloning material for at least a month to try again. :hmmmm: :surrender:
 
AKgramma said:
Even after applying the SNS fungus spray, the rest of my clones were covered in fungus this morning. So I lost them all. I will not use peat plugs again for cloning. I only have 5 out of 20 cuttings left, and those are in water, slowly rotting away. I have not been able to clone in plain water, either.

So, back to soil and plastic bags. I vaguely remember getting a couple clones with that method, the one Sue uses, but the failure rate is very close to 100%, no matter the cut, the age, upper or lower branch, in veg or in flower, use of power or not, under lights or dark, with or without a plastic bag. I don't recoupe any of the cost of equipment, so do not see the need to purchase a "cloning device".

I won't have any cloning material for at least a month to try again. :hmmmm: :surrender:
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Where do you place the clones in relation to the light? I've found I have a sweet spot where my clones are at just the right distance. Place them out of that range one way or another and they take longer, but TOAST's produce bag technique has given me 100% success. I had one take almost a month, but it's in flower right now, so it eventually caught up to the program. There's been no concern about fungus or rot at all.

There's a way to get it to work for you AKgramma. We never give up around here, so we'll find it.
 
SweetSue said:
Where do you place the clones in relation to the light? I've found I have a sweet spot where my clones are at just the right distance. Place them out of that range one way or another and they take longer, but TOAST's produce bag technique has given me 100% success. I had one take almost a month, but it's in flower right now, so it eventually caught up to the program. There's been no concern about fungus or rot at all.

There's a way to get it to work for you AKgramma. We never give up around here, so we'll find it.
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I never DID find that sweet spot, Sue. The very few clones that did make it were in the same spot as those that failed.
 
You can make a small areo-cloner out of a 5 gallon bucket with the lid a pump and some pvc plus acouple spray nozzles. I've made acouple and worked great. Sorry to hear about the cuts. The babies look great.
I'm not 100% sure what putting ones ashes will do. I hear you need to be careful with wood ashe, affecting PH in the soil. A pinch woodn't hurt I'd imagine. Maybe someone will do that with a pinch of wood's ashe someday. I just hope it's not for awhile...
Keepem Green
 
BTW, BBL means be back later. And I'd ph after you add ferts. I never ph'd my fert's for growing in soil. Now I mainly add amendments to the soil when starting mine, and 2 or 3 time with a bloom during flower. Keepem Green
 
Ok gotcha with the ph water but what do you mean you never ph fertilizer for soil? How come ? Sorry I'm very new to this and don't know much about the ph that's why I'm trying to get it right because I was say I added about 400 ml of ph down in my fertilizer just so I can have the soil ph be about 6.5 but it's still sitting around 7.5
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and I'm still testing this tent out so at work today with all the hoods closed it was pretty hot so I'm thinking about just leaving the hood open tomorrow and seeing how hot it gets as opposed to today. Also as far as the light that's a new light for me and before I was using led bulbs but now I have a 600 w led pannel with veg and bloom. I moved it up today after work to a total of 18 in do you think the leafs curling up is from the heat in tent or heat from too much light?
 
I'm not sure what you are growing or how so I can't really help. What kind of medium are you using,,, and what is the PH ofyour water? Maybe I can help. But most fertilizers are buffered so PH doesn't become a issiue. Unless your water really sucks.. I use alot of organics mixed in my soil. So as a rule I don't even have to fertilize untill the buds get bigger.. GL and Keepem Green
 
Jdub95 said:
Are you supposed to ph your water before or after you add nutrients
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After. The nutrients will change the pH, unless, of course, you're using a nute line that doesn't require you to pH.
 
Jdub95 said:
Ok gotcha with the ph water but what do you mean you never ph fertilizer for soil? How come ? Sorry I'm very new to this and don't know much about the ph that's why I'm trying to get it right because I was say I added about 400 ml of ph down in my fertilizer just so I can have the soil ph be about 6.5 but it's still sitting around 7.5
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and I'm still testing this tent out so at work today with all the hoods closed it was pretty hot so I'm thinking about just leaving the hood open tomorrow and seeing how hot it gets as opposed to today. Also as far as the light that's a new light for me and before I was using led bulbs but now I have a 600 w led pannel with veg and bloom. I moved it up today after work to a total of 18 in do you think the leafs curling up is from the heat in tent or heat from too much light?
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Your light panel should have some guidelines as to distance from canopy recommendations. With the temps and the distance you allude to, I'd say it's a combination of the two. Excess light and excess heat will both cause leaf curling, or have in my experience.

You've moved the light up. If you can control the temps you'll be that much further ahead.
 
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