Aberration Goes Ker Bloom! - Perpetual

[Aberration]

I have officially transitioned from 2400W to 3600W in bloom.

The four lights in the new bloom room are on. The ventilation is working. AC is working. Heater is working. Dehumidifier is working. I think I'm good to go. Pictures soon. Right now there is a lot of temporary work. And I am completely blown out. Time to go hang out with my wife and celebrate.

 

[Aberration]

What I forgot to mention in my post yesterday was that the four biggest veg girls went into the new bloom room under 3 x 600W HPS and 1 x 600W MH (which I may change to HPS). And were offfff........

==> Bloom - Pre-feed flush (6)

BD.6J (46/70 days) : 0.50 gal
BD.6K (46/70 days) : 0.50 gal
GKA (01/56 days) : 0.50 gal
BBX.3F (01/56 days) : 0.50 gal
CH (01/56 days) : 0.50 gal
L.5Q (01/56 days) : 0.50 gal

-Mix (3) gallons
-Per gallon:
1 T liquid steamed bone meal
1 T Yucca
pH target: 6.20 (±.10) Actual: 6.26 @ 21.1 C
1 t blackstrap molasses

==> Bloom - Feed (6)

BD.6J : 1.50 gal
BD.6K : 1.50 gal

-Mix (3) gallons - LATE
-Per gallon:
2 T liquid steamed bone meal
1 T Biggest Bloom
2 t PGE
1 t Silica Blast
1 t Cal-Mag
1 T Yucca
2 t Notrozyme
2 t Organic Supplement
1 t Soil Nute
--- t Big Foot (ord)
1 t Calcium Syrup
1/2 t Carbon sweet
2 T Amino Blast
1/2 t TM-7
Natural @ 980 ppm
pH target: 6.20 (±.10) Actual: 6.24 @ 21.1 C
1/2 t Companion

GKA : 0.75 gal
BBX.3F : 0.75 gal
CH : 0.75 gal
L.5Q : 0.75 gal

-Mix (3) gallons - EARLY
-Per gallon:
1 T liquid steamed bone meal
1 T Biggest Bloom
1 t PGE
1 t Silica Blast
1 t Cal-Mag
1 T Yucca
2 t Notrozyme
2 t Organic Supplement
2 t Soil Nute
--- t Big Foot (ord)
1 t Calcium Syrup
1/2 t Carbon sweet
1 T Amino Blast
1/2 t TM-7
Natural @ 1060ppm
pH target: 6.20 (±.10) Actual: 6.11 @ 21.0 C
1/2 t Companion

==> Medium Veg (14):

BBX.4C, BBX.4F : water to saturation
GKA.1B
MTP.3D, MTP.3E
SLH.1A
TDR.1B

SLH.1B, SLH.1D : water to saturation

AH1.0A, AH1.0B : water to saturation
QLR.0A, QLR.0B
WW.0A

-Mix (2) gallons
-Per gallon:
2 t Pure Blend Pro Grow
1 t Cal-Mag
1 T Yucca
--- t Big Foot (ord)
--- t TM-7
Natural @ 710 ppm
pH target: 6.20 (±.10) Actual: 6.27 @ 20.9 C
1/2 t Companion

==> Remainder (3)

L.6A, L.6C, L.6D : nothing

 

[Aberration]

I think I am going to move from feeding every second day to every third. Both bloomers and early veg plants will benefit.

==> Bloom - Pre-feed flush (6)

BD.6J (48/70 days) : 0.50 gal
BD.6K (48/70 days) : 0.50 gal
GKA (03/56 days) : 0.50 gal
BBX.3F (03/56 days) : 0.50 gal
CH (03/56 days) : 0.50 gal
L.5Q (03/56 days) : 0.50 gal

-Mix (3) gallons
-Per gallon:
1 T liquid steamed bone meal
1 T Yucca
pH target: 6.20 (±.10) Actual: 6.23 @ 20.4 C
1 t blackstrap molasses

==> Bloom - Feed (6)

BD.6J : 1.50 gal
BD.6K : 1.50 gal

-Mix (3) gallons - LATE
-Per gallon:
2 T liquid steamed bone meal
1 T Biggest Bloom
2 t PGE
1 t Silica Blast
1 t Cal-Mag
1 T Yucca
2 t Notrozyme
2 t Organic Supplement
1 t Soil Nute
--- t Big Foot (ord)
1 t Calcium Syrup
1/2 t Carbon sweet
2 T Amino Blast
1/2 t TM-7
Natural @ 900 ppm
pH target: 6.20 (±.10) Actual: 6.16 @ 20.9 C
1/2 t Companion

GKA : 0.75 gal
BBX.3F : 0.75 gal
CH : 0.75 gal
L.5Q : 0.75 gal

-Mix (3) gallons - EARLY
-Per gallon:
1 T liquid steamed bone meal
1 T Biggest Bloom
1 t PGE
1 t Silica Blast
1 t Cal-Mag
1 T Yucca
2 t Notrozyme
2 t Organic Supplement
2 t Soil Nute
--- t Big Foot (ord)
1 t Calcium Syrup
1/2 t Carbon sweet
1 T Amino Blast
1/2 t TM-7
Natural @ 1030ppm
pH target: 6.20 (±.10) Actual: 6.25 @ 20.7 C
1/2 t Companion

==> Medium Veg (17`):

BBX.4C, BBX.4F : water to saturation
GKA.1B
MTP.3D, MTP.3E
SLH.1A
TDR.1B

SLH.1B, SLH.1D : water to saturation

AH1.0A, AH1.0B : water to saturation
QLR.0A, QLR.0B
WW.0A

L.6A, L.6C, L.6D : water to saturation

-Mix (2) gallons
-Per gallon:
2 t Pure Blend Pro Grow
1 t Cal-Mag
1 T Yucca
--- t Big Foot (ord)
1/2 t TM-7
Natural @ 660 ppm
pH target: 6.20 (±.10) Actual: 6.23 @ 20.7 C
1/2 t Companion

 

[Aberration]

The taller plants in veg were starting to show signs of wilt in less than two days, so I trimmed them back and I plan to transplant them to bigger pots this weekend. I am watering veg with just water tonight so no one dehydrates. With luck they should be fine tomorrow night without. If I then transplant on Saturday early in the day, they will be fine. Bloom can be fed next on Saturday as well. After that, every three days, I think. I'll have more time with my wife. That's never a bad thing.

Two days ago on the 17th I took 15 cuttings and placed them in coco plugs to root under a dome:

5 x Cheese
10 x Grape Kool-Aid

Today I took 26 more cuttings and placed them in coco plugs to root under a dome:

6 - Matanuskan Thunderfu@k
8 - Super Lemon Haze
5 - BigBud x BlueMagoo
5 - Tangerine Dream
2 - Grape Kool-Aid

==> Medium Veg (13):

BBX.4C, BBX.4F : water to saturation
GKA.1B
MTP.3D, MTP.3E
SLH.1A
TDR.1B

SLH.1B, SLH.1D : water to saturation

AH1.0A, AH1.0B : water to saturation
QLR.0A, QLR.0B
WW.0A

-Mix (2) gallons
-Water only
pH target: 6.20 (±.10) Actual: 6.16 @ 22.0 C

 

[darkpiece]

 

[Mr Smith]

I notice you have alot of plumbing going to your lights. Just how much light power do you run in your room? Thank you for checking out my current grows bro. I really appreciate it. I love watching your perpetual seed grow ops. I love how it never stops and there are always big bushes flowering all the time.

 

[Aberration]

Hey darkpiece, nice to see you!

I notice you have alot of plumbing going to your lights. Just how much light power do you run in your room? Thank you for checking out my current grows bro. I really appreciate it. I love watching your perpetual seed grow ops. I love how it never stops and there are always big bushes flowering all the time.

You asked for it. I got high and wrote this:

Well, right now I have 6 x 600W. 2 of those lights are in the old room still though. So right now the new bloom has 4 x 600W on two air-cooling circuits.

But I am planning for expansion to 9 lights in that room. They will be in a 3 x 3 grid. Each light gets 42" x 45" of space. The total size of the grid is 10'6" x 11'3". The nine lights will all be fully and independently adjustable for the full range using pulleys. There will be three separate air-cooling runs - 3 lights per run. Each run is using a separate intake, exhaust and 6" fan, with an option to upgrade to 8" all the way through. The hoods all have 8" ducting. I use gradual reducers to transition from 6" to 8" and back as needed. 3 x 600W lights on one 6" fan is more than cool enough.

If you envision the room from the top down, oriented as if you just came in the door, the lights will be numbered like this:

7 8 9
4 5 6
1 2 3

The ventilation routes go 7-4-1, 8-5-2, and 9-6-3. Route 9-6-3 is nothing more than lines and circles drawn on the ceiling right now, but the other two routes are active.

Lights 4, 5, 7, and 8 (all red) are currently installed with 600W HPS lamps. 7 and 8 are both using my 3 year old magnetic ballasts and 8" Sun System Cool Sun XL hoods. 4 and 5 are using brand new digital ballasts and 8" Sun System Blockbuster hoods. Eventually they will all be digitals, but for now I will use what I have. Lights 6 and 9 (purple) are still in the old bloom, but when I move them (in about three weeks) they will also be 600W HPS with 3 year old magnetic ballasts and 8" Sun System Cool Sun XL hoods. Then I will swap the HPS bulb out of light 5 and replace it with a 600W MH conversion bulb. I like MH, but until I can surround it with HPS like that (three sides) I'll skip it.

Eventually I will get three more Blockbuster hood and digital ballast combos so that I can fill positions 1-3 (though which hood goes where will likely change later. When the full 9 lights are deployed, I will change out light 5 again, this time for a 1000W MH. That puts the 1000W MH in the center, surrounded by 8 x 600W HPS. By then I will move up to 12 or maybe 18 plants in bloom at a time.

If I decide I need it later, I can always move them all up to 1000W. I have a 50A 240VAC circuit dedicated to the lights and their fans. I also have 2 x 30A 240VAC circuits and 2 x 20A 120VAC circuits dedicated for the grow. I'm wired. I'm so glad I did all that when I was setting this up.

I did the math. A light at 1000W can be assumed to actually use about 1100W. 9 lights draw 9900W total. Divide by the voltage (240) and you get your amps: 41.25. That's a doable amperage on a 50A circuit. Or we can look at what I really expect to do (8x600W + 1x1000W) With 600W lights, assume 680W used, so ((8 x 680) + (1100)) / 240 = 27.25A, which is a breeze on a 50A circuit.

I think 9 x 1000W is a bit too much for a 10.5'x11' space anyway.

I wanted to take pictures, but I lent my camera and I don't have it back yet.

I need to get to the weekend feed.

 

[Aberration]

==> Transplanted (14):

MTP.3D, MTP.3E : 0.75 gal ea
Transplanted to 2 gallon pots

BBX.4C, BBX.4F : 0.50 gal ea
GKA.1B
SLH.1A
TDR.1B
Transplanted to 1.5 gallon pots

SLH.1B, SLH.1D : water to saturation
AH1.0A, AH1.0B
QLR.0A, QLR.0B
WW.0A
Transplanted to 5" pots

-Mix (5) gallons.
-Per gallon:
2 T Organic Supplement
1 t Big Foot (1st)
2 t PGE
1 oz. Yucca
Natural @ 490 ppm
pH target: 6.20 (±.05) Actual: 6.23 @ 20.1 C
1/2 T Mykos WP (mycorrhizae)
1 t Gnatrol (Bt-i - Bacillus thuringiensis var. israelensis)
1/2 t Companion (Bacillus subtilis)

==> All remaining - weekly beneficials (9)

BD.6J (51/70 days) : 1.50 gal
BD.6K (51/70 days) : 1.50 gal
GKA (06/56 days) : 1.50 gal
BBX.3F (06/56 days) : 1.50 gal
CH (06/56 days) : 1.50 gal
L.5Q (06/56 days) : 1.50 gal

L.6A, L.6C, L.6D : water to saturation

-Mix (10) gallons
pH target: 6.20 (±.10) Actual: 6.15 @ 20.3 C
-Per gallon:
1/2 T Mykos WP (mycorrhizae)
1 t Gnatrol (Bt-i - Bacillus thuringiensis var. israelensis)
1/2 t Companion (Bacillus subtilis)
1 t Hygrozyme

 

[Mr Smith]

I would stick with the 600s. 1000watters are awesome but heat control can become quite difficult when you run a number of them. I use both to have versitility of power between 2 rooms using the same circuits. The max I use in one room is 2 1000w or 4 600s. I normally run 3 600s in one room and 1 1000w or 2 600s in the other. This summer if I have the spare coin I want to run 6 400s in a sog and compare the yeild to a sog with 4 600s. Should be interesting, 2 more grows to compare light power versus light penetration versus light spread. They say 600s are the best when it comes to lumens per watt but is it the best for light spread also? I'll try to answer my own question once I experience it.
Best of luck bro, I love watching you grow.

 

[Aberration]

Thanks for the info Mr. Smith. I know 600's are more efficient on a per watt basis, and I also know that 9000 watts would be insane in that room. The options are there, but I'm really working toward 8 600s and a single 1000. Right now I need to get all six 600s in there first.

That and I need to eradicate the bugs. Spider mites keep coming back, and they will continue to do so until I get regular with the Azatrol/Spinosad spray.

==> Fog for bugs (21)

GKA
BBX.3F
CH
L.5Q

MTP.3D, MTP.3E

BBX.4C, BBX.4F
GKA.1B
SLH.1A
TDR.1B

SLH.1B, SLH.1D
AH1.0A, AH1.0B
QLR.0A, QLR.0B
WW.0A

L.6A, L.6C, L.6D

In hot water:
-Mix (2) gallons.
-Per gallon:
4 t Notrozyme
1 T Ful-power
2 t yucca
4 t Azadirachtin 1.2%
pH target: 6.40 (±.03) Actual: 6.38 @ 32.3 C
2 t Spinosad 0.5%

 

[Aberration]

Moving to a three-day watering interval is going to work out fine. My weekend flush will need to change up though. It can't be a weekend thing anymore.

==> Bloom - Pre-feed flush (6)

BD.6J (54/70 days) : 0.50 gal
BD.6K (54/70 days) : 0.50 gal
GKA (09/56 days) : 0.50 gal
BBX.3F (09/56 days) : 0.50 gal
CH (09/56 days) : 0.50 gal
L.5Q (09/56 days) : 0.50 gal

-Mix (3) gallons
-Per gallon:
1 T liquid steamed bone meal
1 T Yucca
pH target: 6.20 (±.10) Actual: 6.21 @ 21.0 C
1 t blackstrap molasses

==> Bloom - Feed (6)

BD.6J : 1.50 gal
BD.6K : 1.50 gal

-Mix (3) gallons - TAPER
-Per gallon:
2 T liquid steamed bone meal
1 T Biggest Bloom
2 t PGE
1 t Silica Blast
1 t Cal-Mag
1 T Yucca
2 t Notrozyme
2 t Organic Supplement
1 t Soil Nute
--- t Big Foot (ord)
1/2 t Calcium Syrup
1/2 t Carbon sweet
2 T Amino Blast
--- t TM-7
Natural @ 850 ppm
pH target: 6.20 (±.10) Actual: 6.19 @ 21.3 C
1/2 t Companion

GKA : 0.75 gal
BBX.3F : 0.75 gal
CH : 0.75 gal
L.5Q : 0.75 gal

-Mix (3) gallons - EARLY
-Per gallon:
1 T liquid steamed bone meal
1 T Biggest Bloom
1 t PGE
1 t Silica Blast
1 t Cal-Mag
1 T Yucca
2 t Notrozyme
2 t Organic Supplement
2 t Soil Nute
--- t Big Foot (ord)
1 t Calcium Syrup
1/2 t Carbon sweet
1 T Amino Blast
1/2 t TM-7
Natural @ 1060 ppm
pH target: 6.20 (±.10) Actual: 6.24 @ 21.1 C
1/2 t Companion

==> Medium Veg (15):

BBX.4C, BBX.4F : 0.25 gal ea
GKA.1B
MTP.3D, MTP.3E
SLH.1A
TDR.1B

SLH.1B, SLH.1D : water to saturation

AH1.0A, AH1.0B : water to saturation
QLR.0A, QLR.0B
WW.0A

L.6A : water to saturation

-Mix (3) gallons
-Per gallon:
2 t Pure Blend Pro Grow
1 t Cal-Mag
1 T Yucca
1 t Big Foot (ord)
--- t TM-7
Natural @ 660 ppm
pH target: 6.20 (±.10) Actual: 6.25 @ 21.1 C
1/2 t Companion

==> Small Veg (2):

L.6C, L.6D :Nothing

 

[fncg]

That's a hell of a lighting setup.

Damn. 9kw potential.

I assume you're growing in a place that won't notice the electric bill as an (if you'll forgive the pun) aberration.

 

[Aberration]

I live in a place where they appreciate that I pay all my bills and they don't care how much electricity I choose to buy. I'm in Oregon, a med state. We have over 57,000 patients, with 6,000 in my county. There are a lot of grows. The utilities don't have any interest in policing it. Electricity is fairly cheap for me.

My bill's not bad now, with 6 x 600W. My whole grow adds about $200-250 to the bill. I would only be going bigger if I became someone else's grower too. This is a good possibility however. A close family member could use a grower, and I could save them a lot of money by letting them leverage my equipment. If they help with nutes and the electrical bill, that would be great, but not necessary. This is family. Family is free. In addition, there is another patient who is an old family friend, who has been trying to get me to grow for them for a while. This is someone who can be trusted to pay for his share of the bills, too. 18 blooming plants would be a handful in a ~10x12 space tho.

I guess we'll have to see what happens.

 

[Mr Smith]

Just curious but besides air cooled reflectors what's all you use to keep the temps down? The major factor for how large or small I grow is dependant on how well I can regulate temp. One of my flower rooms needs to be shut down during the summer and the other I run 3 600s or 2 1000s sometimes air cooled sometimes not with a 12000btu ac unit and temps are barely within limits on a super hot day. Whats your intake and exaust? Just wanna compare since you use about a third more light power than I do.

 

[Aberration]

I have a 6" inline (~400 cfm each) for every 2 lights. I also have a 25,000 Btu AC in there. Plus the room is well insulated (R-19 in the walls and R-30 over the ceiling). Based on placement, etc, I'm expecting the new bloom to be at least as temp-steady as the old one in the summer (which is exposed on the south side of the house) and probably better.

 

[Aberration]

This was supposed to be the last meal for BD.6J and BD.6K, as they were to start flush on Monday, but I think I'm going to feed them again Monday and they can start flush Thursday. Since I need to delay their harvest a few days, that will work well. Then they will get 10 days flush and come out around February 11.

==> Bloom - Pre-feed flush (6)

BD.6J (57/70 days) : 0.50 gal
BD.6K (57/70 days) : 0.50 gal
GKA (12/56 days) : 0.50 gal
BBX.3F (12/56 days) : 0.50 gal
CH (12/56 days) : 0.50 gal
L.5Q (12/56 days) : 0.50 gal

-Mix (3) gallons
-Per gallon:
1 T liquid steamed bone meal
1 T Yucca
pH target: 6.20 (±.10) Actual: 6.16 @ 15.4 C
1 t blackstrap molasses

==> Bloom - Feed (6)

BD.6J : 1.50 gal
BD.6K : 1.50 gal

-Mix (3) gallons - TAPER
-Per gallon:
2 T liquid steamed bone meal
1 T Biggest Bloom
2 t PGE
1 t Silica Blast
1 t Cal-Mag
1 T Yucca
2 t Notrozyme
2 t Organic Supplement
1 t Soil Nute
--- t Big Foot (ord)
1/2 t Calcium Syrup
1/2 t Carbon sweet
2 T Amino Blast
--- t TM-7
Natural @ 780 ppm
pH target: 6.20 (±.10) Actual: 6.29 @ 12.9 C
1/2 t Companion

GKA : 1.00 gal
BBX.3F : 1.00 gal
CH : 0.75 gal
L.5Q : 1.00 gal

-Mix (4) gallons - EARLY
-Per gallon:
1 T liquid steamed bone meal
1 T Biggest Bloom
1 t PGE
1 t Silica Blast
1 t Cal-Mag
1 T Yucca
2 t Notrozyme
2 t Organic Supplement
2 t Soil Nute
--- t Big Foot (ord)
1 t Calcium Syrup
1/2 t Carbon sweet
1 T Amino Blast
1/2 t TM-7
Natural @ 1070 ppm
pH target: 6.20 (±.10) Actual: 6.18 @ 16.1 C
1/2 t Companion

==> Medium Veg (17):

BBX.4C, BBX.4F : 0.25 gal ea
GKA.1B
MTP.3D, MTP.3E
SLH.1A
TDR.1B

SLH.1B, SLH.1D : water to saturation

AH1.0A, AH1.0B : water to saturation
QLR.0A, QLR.0B
WW.0A

L.6A, L.6C, L.6D : water to saturation

-Mix (3) gallons
-Per gallon:
2 t Pure Blend Pro Grow
1 t Cal-Mag
1 T Yucca
1 t Big Foot (3rd)
--- t TM-7
Natural @ 730 ppm
pH target: 6.20 (±.10) Actual: 6.29 @ 18.6 C
1/2 t Companion

 

[Aberration]

Tonight I sprayed for bugs.

As you may know, when it comes to bugs, I primarily battle spider mites, and it's mostly when I slack off. To fight them, I spray the vegging plants with an atomizer spraying a mixture of Azadirachtin (the active ingredient in the neem oil it is extracted from) and spinosad (Saccharopolyspora spinosa, a bacteria). Both are OMRI listed, whatever that's worth. They are both harmless to the plants and the smoker thereof.

If I am diligent and clean I can keep the garden absolutely bug free. If I slack, they come back. I can't really spray budding plants, but you can spray most plants for a couple weeks into bloom with no ill effects because there really isn't any bud yet. In fact, because I have been so remiss, I will have to push that, as I want to hit the plants in the new bloom room once more on the 31st and they will be 16 days into bloom. They will be fine. They are just getting going.

==> Fog for bugs (21)

GKA
BBX.3F
CH
L.5Q

BBX.4C, BBX.4F
GKA.1B
MTP.3D, MTP.3E
SLH.1A
TDR.1B

SLH.1B, SLH.1D

AH1.0A, AH1.0B
QLR.0A, QLR.0B
WW.0A

L.6A, L.6C, L.6D

In hot water:
-Mix (2) gallons.
-Per gallon:
4 t Notrozyme
1 T Ful-power
2 t yucca
4 t Azadirachtin 1.2%
pH target: 6.40 (±.03) Actual: 6.42 @ 26.0 C
2 t Spinosad 0.5%

Here's a shot of the new bloom room with almost every plant I have (all except clones and the two Blue Dream plants that are in the old bloom room). I raised the lights all the way, added floro lights, turned off the HIDs and used the space to spray. This has the added benefit of killing anything that might be on any surface of the room. Also, everyone is still pretty wet in these photos. I have a dehumidifier and a fan going to help the drying along:

Before spraying them I staked and tied the four new bloomers out. The Grape Kool-Aid is over 4' in diameter, like a bowl. It worked out well:

A shot through the heart of GKA:

The 'lavender' indica:

BigBud x BlueMagoo:

Cheese. I like this one. She's about 3' tall and has a canopy about 10" thick. If she produces nice smoke in this configuration I will be pleased:

And here's everybody from the veg table. I got a shot of the little ones:

Here are the rest of veg:

Here are the clone domes. It should be a load of clones. Woot:

The Blue Dream girls in the old bloom room look great. Check this out:

I just love growing Blue Dream.

 

[Prescription]

Great documentation as always Abe. My only comment or suggestion has to do with any addition light purchases. It seems that all the big named digital ballasts that I looked at the last time I purchased a light a couple of years ago, had dimmable versions. The Lumateks that I have are 1000w but are dimmable down to 400 or 600 can't remember how low exactly. It seemed like a good buy for me at the time. They worked just as advertised. The extra flexibility that came with being able to choose the output helped a lot as my room slowly changed configuration. If you have not already, i am sure you will probably do some serious research before you buy, i am just curious if you have put any thought into them.

 

[Aberration]

I have looked into them and that is what I am buying. The two new hoods use Lumatek digitals that can run at 600W, 750W, 1000W, and overdrive level. I agree they are sweet.

I had been avoiding the digitals because of the interference with other electronics, but I know a couple people who are using a lot of these with no problems now. One of them run 18 x 1000W in a single room with just these. So I am sold now.

Thanks for the heads up tho.

 

[fncg]

Here are the clone domes. It should be a load of clones. Woot:

Where do you get those trays/lids? That's EXACTLY what I need. My poor cuttings are smooshed under a 2" high dome that came with the tray I'm using.