A Video Journal With Pigeons420 - 2016

AngryBird said:
HI
I hope you don't mind if I fly by your pigeon's nest...:)
:goodjob: and thank you for excellent videos
The germinating one was something I needed in visual. I was trying to find a way that would be close to "me" .
SweetSue has been giving me ideas and I have been reading a lot.
I know I was doing something wrong and your way felt like "close to heart" :thanks: " Ooo I can do that"
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Hi AngryBird!!

So nice to have you here, please make yourself comfortable! I noticed you peeking over the fence. It's nice to see you.

Thanks for the love! I'm glad the things I do can help someone here and there. It really makes my journey here at 420 a complete circle.

Please feel free to chime in here and there. And please feel free to pack that bowl full, there's lots to go around!

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Pigeons420 said:
Hi AngryBird!!

So nice to have you here, please make yourself comfortable! I noticed you peeking over the fence. It's nice to see you.

Thanks for the love! I'm glad the things I do can help someone here and there. It really makes my journey here at 420 a complete circle.

Please feel free to chime in here and there. And please feel free to pack that bowl full, there's lots to go around!

:passitleft:
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Thank you thank you ! I am a total noob in growing weed..have never grown..lol
I have been testing on bag seeds and I had one grow to 2 pair of leaves and then stop....Those where just thrown in soil no germination and I think they went to deep?!
My germination was wet cotton sandwich in dark place until it cracks open and then in plastic cups.
They never grew anywhere..so I think it was a combo of too much water and to deep. And maybe the seeds were no good either.
They were under light and it is quite hot here.
:rollit::passitleft:
 
Pigeons420 said:
Wow guys!! I have so much to say to these comments.

I actually differ in opinion about the word "building tolerance" to BHO vs. weed. These are comments that I believe deserve their own video!!!

And this video I will do tonight when I get home from the lake. But I'd like to answer briefly right now.

I think that the highs you get from BHO and herb could almost be put into classification of their own.
I find when I have a little rip from BHO I get a different high than I would from herb. Not a better one but a different one. Then it doesn't stop there. The "coming down" from BHO is also different than the "coming down" of herb. I feel the high from a BHO rip is a longer consistent one rather than the extreme immediate high I get from herbs. Also, I find I require a herb hoot sooner than I do a BHO hoot.

The main reason I prefer the BHO right now over the herbs is purely the smoothness and effectiveness of BHO. There's no unnessesary"ness" from BHO. That is, there's no plant matter. No unwanted materials. Just concentrate. That's peace of mind for me to know that I'm taking my mediation slightly more effectively. (Leaving out the discussion of butane).

Now, the biggest problem I'm finding with doing so much BHO is that herbs taste immediately different. Almost undesirable. There's so much burnt matter taste that takes a bit to get over. I find if I hoot the BHO for the day and then wait until the next day to try my herbs it's a better effect and taste.

I really have so much more to say about this so I'll save it for the video so I can have some family time. I'll check in a little late guys!!

:high-five:
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It makes sense that the hits would be a purer high. The concentrated nature of the method assures that. The discussion was whether or not it raises your tolerance levels. Have you noticed yourself using more to get the same effect? I haven't found this to be true myself, so your comment piqued my interest.

Interesting as well how you've grown less fond of other delivery methods, and commendable that you worked through the waiting period that resets it for you.
 
Pigeons420 said:
Wow guys!! I have so much to say to these comments.

I actually differ in opinion about the word "building tolerance" to BHO vs. weed. These are comments that I believe deserve their own video!!!

And this video I will do tonight when I get home from the lake. But I'd like to answer briefly right now.

I think that the highs you get from BHO and herb could almost be put into classification of their own.
I find when I have a little rip from BHO I get a different high than I would from herb. Not a better one but a different one. Then it doesn't stop there. The "coming down" from BHO is also different than the "coming down" of herb. I feel the high from a BHO rip is a longer consistent one rather than the extreme immediate high I get from herbs. Also, I find I require a herb hoot sooner than I do a BHO hoot.

The main reason I prefer the BHO right now over the herbs is purely the smoothness and effectiveness of BHO. There's no unnessesary"ness" from BHO. That is, there's no plant matter. No unwanted materials. Just concentrate. That's peace of mind for me to know that I'm taking my mediation slightly more effectively. (Leaving out the discussion of butane).

Now, the biggest problem I'm finding with doing so much BHO is that herbs taste immediately different. Almost undesirable. There's so much burnt matter taste that takes a bit to get over. I find if I hoot the BHO for the day and then wait until the next day to try my herbs it's a better effect and taste.

I really have so much more to say about this so I'll save it for the video so I can have some family time. I'll check in a little late guys!!

:high-five:
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I kinda agree with you mate the only thing is for me I don't mess with BHO. I dab Rosin as my vapourized concentrate and smoke Bubble Bag Hash instead of flower. I really only smoke flower when I have no other choice. It is way more harsh and aggressive on my throat and lungs than the alternative.
 
Noob4x4grow said:
So you turn all of your flower to either rosin or hash, Growlow? Wow no wonder you need so many plants. :rofl:
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Yes sir! It's crazy to think that's where I consider my starting point. With the hash at least. When I have an abundance I like to put it through a short path distillation system and separate Cannabinoid from Terpene and collects THC and CBD in different vials. I use the Terpenes in my cooking.
 
AngryBird said:
Thank you thank you ! I am a total noob in growing weed..have never grown..lol
I have been testing on bag seeds and I had one grow to 2 pair of leaves and then stop....Those where just thrown in soil no germination and I think they went to deep?!
My germination was wet cotton sandwich in dark place until it cracks open and then in plastic cups.
They never grew anywhere..so I think it was a combo of too much water and to deep. And maybe the seeds were no good either.
They were under light and it is quite hot here.
:rollit::passitleft:
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AngryBird, it's great that you're willing to admit your experience and mistakes. I started out here at 420 pretty fresh with minimal experience under my belt. That didnt mean anything. If you're willing to put in the time and the love required to produce a healthy garden the rest will fall into place.
I can assure you that the smartest step you've made so far was coming here to the 420 Magazine. I've said it before and I'll say it again, this place is what dreams are made of! :passitleft:
You're going to find a lot of information, much of which will contradict or leave your head spinning. Just remember to take it one step at a time only changing one or two things at a time. ( preferably one at this point)
If you haven't learned already, there isn't one way to grow cannabis, there's MANY ways to grow cannabis. And it's a matter of finding what method fits you, your budget, your environment, your family and a few more things that you'll find important.

As for germinating, it's easiest for me to follow the simplest method, that's straight into soil about a quarter inch down and keep well moist until you see green. Easy Peezy (You CANNOT over water a seed. people put the in shot glasses of water for peat sake) :rofl:
I'm not a very graceful guy, so any extra movements isn't ideal.

ThNks for popping by my friend!

SweetSue said:
It makes sense that the hits would be a purer high. The concentrated nature of the method assures that. The discussion was whether or not it raises your tolerance levels. Have you noticed yourself using more to get the same effect? I haven't found this to be true myself, so your comment piqued my interest.

Interesting as well how you've grown less fond of other delivery methods, and commendable that you worked through the waiting period that resets it for you.
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Yes, the purity is always going to be there. As for my tolerance levels: they haven't changed. I was smoking some White Widow last night. I was high off 3 bowls. My usual amount. I've been smoking concentrates for about a month. So, I'd think it's fair to assume that I'd had to have built my tolerance up by now if that were the case, no?

Growlow said:
I kinda agree with you mate the only thing is for me I don't mess with BHO. I dab Rosin as my vapourized concentrate and smoke Bubble Bag Hash instead of flower. I really only smoke flower when I have no other choice. It is way more harsh and aggressive on my throat and lungs than the alternative.
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Growlow, rosin is down the line of my many steps. I've told myself that I've gotta dabble in a little CCO first. I know a special someone that prides herself on the subject so, I would be a fool not to take her up on her offer :dreamy:
However, I love bubble hash, huge fan. Only down side is the consistency. My finished product is a "hash-like" consistency. Hard but maluable and not the best to smoke out of a bowl or rig of some kind. I find its beat sprinkled on a bowl of herb. But there I am back to the weed. So, bubble hash has taken a back seat. BHO or shatter can be made to such a nice consistency that I can work it in just about anything. Vape, bong, rig. Etc.
I've gotten to the point that I need to find the best delivery method for my medication for all parts of the day. Bong in the morning before work, vape pen and concentrates during the day and back to the bong at night. So, it seems I just need to keep exporing to discover all the possibilities this medication provides!!

Ps.
I can't wait for my garden to have plants designated for oil and hash production whist having flowering plants as well. Cooking, eating, drinking, smoking etc

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Noob4x4grow said:
So you turn all of your flower to either rosin or hash, Growlow? Wow no wonder you need so many plants. :rofl:
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:jawdropper: crazy I know!!

Growlow said:
Yes sir! It's crazy to think that's where I consider my starting point. With the hash at least. When I have an abundance I like to put it through a short path distillation system and separate Cannabinoid from Terpene and collects THC and CBD in different vials. I use the Terpenes in my cooking.
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:jawdropper: say what! And I had no idea!! Wow
 
Well I learn and grow from my mistakes.. but it would have been "more" devastating if it would have been bought seeds....
I have an virtual garden journal now..since seeds are on its way.. feel free to fly by :circle-of-love:
 
The CCO will be handy to add in some capsules to augment the concentrates. The BioBomb capsules help increase the bioavailability of the meds, so less becomes more and that leaves more stock for BHO. :battingeyelashes:

Thank you for your comments on tolerance levels and concentrates. Before I did my ECS reset I was tearing through the supplies, but thinking back that was because I was primarily smoking as the augmentation to my brownies. Now that I'm taking both CBD and BioBomb THC capsules I find I normally reach for the vape pen and a couple small hits of wax works best for me, and my tolerance levels haven't risen appreciably either. In fact, I'm using less cannabis than before and getting better effect.

I was wondering if the statements about concentrates increasing tolerance levels was one of those statements that got tossed out because it appears to make sense, or if it was based on fact. I'll have to ask Shiggity if he's noticed a tolerance shift.
 
I think I opened this "tolerance" can of worms. Now I'm wondering if the BHO high is more like a vape high? I have never like the "Vape" high. It is more like an ingested high to me. Years ago I was told, "Buy a vape it is not as bad on your lungs as smoking." I puchased a $150 vape and the buzz sucked for me. I was then told, "Your vape is a piece of shit, you need a Volcano." So I spent over $300 on a Volcano and the buzz was OK after using it a few weeks. Once I took a big bong rip of bud I realized that I was so much higher than the vape got me. I was immediately back to smoking bongs only. I do not like the ingested high either. I have made butter and brownies several times. Don't care for that buzz. Takes it to long to hit me and the high is not for me.

This is just me. YMMV
 
We sound very similar.

A buddy of mine has the volcano and he swears by it. Only uses it. But when I hit it. It's underwhelming to say the least.

What got my interest was when I purchased a $35 vape pen and didn't mind the high I got off that when I was vaping my BHO. But the problem with that was the pen was only big enough to store me one solid hoot/session. Not idea for a work day or anywhere else I can't bring my bong and some water.

I remain determined to find a method that suits my needs and is the healthiest way possible. I know I'm on the right track. Just a few more harvests :rofl:
 
GhettoGro said:
I think I opened this "tolerance" can of worms. Now I'm wondering if the BHO high is more like a vape high? I have never like the "Vape" high. It is more like an ingested high to me. Years ago I was told, "Buy a vape it is not as bad on your lungs as smoking." I puchased a $150 vape and the buzz sucked for me. I was then told, "Your vape is a piece of shit, you need a Volcano." So I spent over $300 on a Volcano and the buzz was OK after using it a few weeks. Once I took a big bong rip of bud I realized that I was so much higher than the vape got me. I was immediately back to smoking bongs only. I do not like the ingested high either. I have made butter and brownies several times. Don't care for that buzz. Takes it to long to hit me and the high is not for me.

This is just me. YMMV
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We need to teach you to potentiate those edibles so they hit you faster GG. My BioBomb brownies, using coconut oil and liquid sunflower lecithin, hit the system like a freight train within ten minutes. Heirloom is the only other one to try them, so you can ask him if this was the same for him, but I believe his post about them backed that up.

I live for edibles, but I've no patience for waiting an hour or longer for the effects. I want them strong and I want them now! :laughtwo: Not only do they hit fast and hard, but they last for up to 8 hours, under the right conditions.

Pigeons and I share your sense that a vape high, though having its place, isn't in our bag of tricks. Vaping concentrates is a totally different experience. They're pure trichomes GG. Think about that. You have no idea how wonderful the buzz is until you try.
 
I'll always start with edibles as my baseline, but beyond that my preferred method, aside from the vape pen, is still the water pipe. I just get my best high from a bong.
 
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Man that sounds exactly what I'm looking for!!

But I don't get anything! Literally through and ounce of bud into a pound of butter but, shy of eating the butter with a spoon, I tried to eat as much as possible without any result.
Now, I had the expectation of doing this many time but only did it once after the poor effect. I'll be the first to admit I deserve it and owe it to myself to try again. Not to mention I have a $200 butter machine gathering dust. :(
 
Pigeons420 said:
:jawdropper: say what! And I had no idea!! Wow
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I'll just leave this here. A buddy of mine I showed this method to shared it with this group of individuals supposedly! I have never filmed my process but this is about as close as it comes with a few minor tweaks/differences.

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I love nerding out. Does this show my love for chemistry ??? hehe

:welcome:
 
Growlow said:
I love nerding out. Does this show my love for chemistry ??? hehe

:welcome:
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It actually shows you've got some serious intelligence going on :Namaste: That's some complicated contraption.:passitleft::passitleft:

Did they say 60% cbd and 3.9 thc ?
 
golfer420 said:
It actually shows you've got some serious intelligence going on :Namaste: That's some complicated contraption.:passitleft::passitleft:

Did they say 60% cbd and 3.9 thc ?
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I'm convinced my intelligence is like a mountainous range. It has it peaks and valleys. Especially having a traumatic brain injury complicates things somewhat. I thank you for your compliment regardless :) They did say 60%CBD I've run product upwards of 75-80% CBD and heard of even higher than that by reliable sources. It all comes down to the product you start with and how knowledgeable you are in the methods and procedures of extraction both Solvent and Solventless :)
 
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