700W LED - Auto Topping Grow - 2 Plants

Norcal all weed talk welcome here mate.u have some top info well done;) and im with u mate iv never washed my buds i would not dare.i harvest then hang buds in a box till bone dry then i smoke it .high times;)
 
Re bud washing: I was on the fence with this one when i heard about it but had to do it when i suffered bodrot and PM. Think about it this way - to get bubble you need to freeze trim and have water ice cold so the heads become brittle and snap off easily otherwise it more difficult to do it with cold water alone. If you grow outdoors plants can get battered around by wind and RAIN sometimes even torrential rain but the rain doesnt wash away the trich's. With bud washing you are swishing branches of buds around in the water so trich loss is minimal especially as the water is not cold.

With an indoor grow then i see no need for bud washing but it cant be bad. I have left some buds unwashed for blind tests for me and some mates so will see how much of a difference there is. Any loss of trich's in a wash will be minimal but rather be smoking something clean rather than buds that have dead bugs and bug shit all over them. It also helps them dry quicker meaning you get to smoke your bud sooner. I dont rush drying anyway. Leave in a bos on my balcony for about a week then in my airing cupboard for an extra couple of days before de-stemming then jarring the buds for cure.

Each and everyone to their own. But for those that have not bud washed - perhaps try it with 1 branch and then do blind tests. Get pals to see if they can SEE the difference then if they can taste the difference.
 
thebeast27 said:
Im gna have to get into this breeding game for sure.im gna buy a small seperate tent to house a few plants and get them sprayed with silver and see what happens;) all in good time.;)
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You said earlier that no more seeds would need to be bought to hemisync. Perhaps not for a while but it would get boring to smoke the same strain all the time. New seeds bought to create new breeds.

You could end up with some mad breeds beast. Just trial and error. There so many strains out there that would be good as an auto but arent available. Maybe one day i'll do the same but need to wait till kids have up and left the roost and got a place to myself.
 
Hiya Guys, on my 2nd auto grow here. Been following Atrain, Ledrf, Beast to name a few and love the Auto revolution.. Am currently on Purple Automazars, planted 4 & got 1 male a 1 super pheno. To save genetics I cut 5 lower branches and jammed them in pots with a clone from the male. A seedfarm kind of grow to produce as many seeds as possible, The way to clone Auto's i guess..
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This mother is unstoppable.
 
So had a look at nl blue auto today her buds are solid and still swelling.but room in the tent is tight.so she has had a heavy flush in the bath and il continue to flush till saturday then chop at 13 weeks of life.buds look amazing.then about 2 weeks after that mazar will come down.as il have more room in the tent on saturday im already onto a new mission .be back soon with pics;)
 
So alot of growers still wna see topped vs untopped autos.so do i as never done it side by side. So il make this happen.im using 15 litre buckets for these 2 autos filled with multipurpose compost from wilkos;) lol .i have added 3 litre of water to each pot with takeroot and multitotal in it.so the young have all they need.and i have placed the germed beans into the nice wet home.i always start my plants this way.they will not go into the tent until saturday when there is room. Also i will be making a seperate journel for these 2 girls so all growers will easily find it.so thats all for now.here are the 2 chosen auto ladies for this journey.
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happy growing every1;)
 
Dirt thanks mate so am i.and brooklyn sunrise is an amazing smoke my friend.1 of the best and strongest indica genetics about to date.there worth a grow if u like a very heavy indica high;)
 
HemiSync said:
I get the Bio-Silver Ultra Colloidal Silver 50 PPM from that company named after the South American rain forest. Works great right out of the bottle. Funny thing was I only sprayed that branch 3 or 4 times and had decided that I didn't have time to mess with a breeding project right now and forgot about it. Four weeks later and I had nanners all over that branch. Funny how things happen when you least expect it. Her top buds all seem to be fine but any flower close to that branch are plumping up with seeds. I even managed to capture some pollen and refrigerated it. I will probably be chopping her top buds this week and I will let the bottom buds finish seeding.

I'm hoping those seeds won't become hermie because I cross pollinated the same girl.:yikes: I understand what you are doing now and it makes sense. Good luck with your project.
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I only see that brand available in 240 PPM. It's pretty cheap though and can be diluted with distilled water. Can you PM me a link to the 50 PPM, please? :tokin:
 
Norcaliwood said:
You know it should be easy to see what it does. Leave a bud unwashed, and one washed. After dried, look at them with a scope and see how the exterior trichomes held up. I understand washing if you spray something your worried about. Hey anything you do spray especially the oils leaves residual. Neem included. Neem,,,, alot really. but like I said if you haven't sprayed something,,,, why? Sorry to side track your thread Beast. Keepem Green
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A lot of growers do foliars using things like compost teas and fish emulsions, etc. where I would definitely want the buds washed. For a typical indoor, hyro grow, it makes NO sense to me! :)
 
I agree mr krip that an indoor grow would probably not need washed but buds can accumulate dust and hairs, moreso if you have pets, facial hair or long hair. It is supposed to speed up drying as well with no negative effects. Have also heard it tastes better and smokes better too but i have yet to try washed v unwashed. I have testers ready for next month so will let you know my findings. It cannot hurt to try and see the results for yourself. If you are not convinced then you havent lost anything other than the price of some baking soda and lemon juice. On the other hand if you are convinced then you can do it for all your grows. I will buy and smoke unwashed buds cos i have done so for years and will continue to do so. It all about trial and error and taking the plunge for a one off. I was skeptical about bud washing for the same reasons you are - dunking buds into water and swishing them around! Once it was explained to me then it made sense and wasnt afraid to do it.
 
Glasgrow said:
You said earlier that no more seeds would need to be bought to hemisync. Perhaps not for a while but it would get boring to smoke the same strain all the time. New seeds bought to create new breeds.

You could end up with some mad breeds beast. Just trial and error. There so many strains out there that would be good as an auto but arent available. Maybe one day i'll do the same but need to wait till kids have up and left the roost and got a place to myself.
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Don't worry buddy, I am currently sitting on 30 strains of auto seeds and do not plan on getting bored. I also had in that tent a FastBuds Mexican Airlines that I stunted when I put her in hydro and decided to just let the entire little girl get pollinated by the Mazar. Thinking about calling her Mazar Airlines. My goal is to create several thousand seeds and on my walks in the country and even in the little town I live near find every sunny spot and stick a seed in the ground. I think it would be great to see the reaction when the town folks realize that there are plants coming up everywhere. If the ones out in the country come up and grow that's great. I would not try to harvest any of them just let them go for someone else to find. Just call me Hemi CannabisSeed. LOL

Plus if it ever does become completely legal it would be nice to find others that want to trade genetics. What better way to than with seeds.

Glasgrow said:
Re bud washing: I was on the fence with this one when i heard about it but had to do it when i suffered bodrot and PM. Think about it this way - to get bubble you need to freeze trim and have water ice cold so the heads become brittle and snap off easily otherwise it more difficult to do it with cold water alone. If you grow outdoors plants can get battered around by wind and RAIN sometimes even torrential rain but the rain doesnt wash away the trich's. With bud washing you are swishing branches of buds around in the water so trich loss is minimal especially as the water is not cold.

With an indoor grow then i see no need for bud washing but it cant be bad. I have left some buds unwashed for blind tests for me and some mates so will see how much of a difference there is. Any loss of trich's in a wash will be minimal but rather be smoking something clean rather than buds that have dead bugs and bug shit all over them. It also helps them dry quicker meaning you get to smoke your bud sooner. I dont rush drying anyway. Leave in a bos on my balcony for about a week then in my airing cupboard for an extra couple of days before de-stemming then jarring the buds for cure.

Each and everyone to their own. But for those that have not bud washed - perhaps try it with 1 branch and then do blind tests. Get pals to see if they can SEE the difference then if they can taste the difference.
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I was on the fence with this as well until I tried it. First of all, on visual inspection it appears no trichs or very few were lost. I can't afford nor live where I can get it lab tested but I bet the difference is minimal. Second, it dries better, cures better, and tastes oh so good. I grow in and outdoors and use compost tea and cal/mag foliar sprays. There are bugs inside and out, in addition as you mentioned chances for different molds and fungi that can grow on your buds, sometimes unseen. My outside girls have good and bad bugs crawling & crapping all over them. I don't want to smoke bugs and in 6 months I'm sure a passing bird or two has crapped on them. :rofl:

This time I had just a small touch of PM and even added h2o2 to the first rinse with no noticeable difference under a 60x scope. Maybe next time I do a big harvest and wash, I will run the water through my bubble bags to see how much is actually being washed off. I bet the majority of what is left is dirt, bugs, and crap. Even if there is something left in the 25 micron bag, I don't think I would smoke it.
 
Mazar airlines sounds good. I want some, lol. Bet it would get you as high as a plane.

I dont think i would bother wasting time running the was water through a bag. Be interesting to see what crap there is but it not worth smoking, i can see what crap there is in the water after swishing them around. I was surprised that after washing, rinsing, then drying i ended up with a touch of mouldy buds in the curing jar(s). Was on top of it immediately so threw out what mould there was (albeit not much) and saved the bits with no mould on the same bud and smoked it straight away. Safe to say i not done me too much harm and since then no more mould. I even noticed a bit that had some rot on partial stem them had been washed failed to mould any further in the jar so the wash did the job by killing any remaining spores.
 
Glasgrow said:
Mazar airlines sounds good. I want some, lol. Bet it would get you as high as a plane.

I dont think i would bother wasting time running the was water through a bag. Be interesting to see what crap there is but it not worth smoking
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Yea I hope it gets me as high as a plane. LOL

As for the bubble bags, I would just do it for the hell of it. Be interesting to see if anything actually made to the 25 micron bag.

I still cannot believe the people that refuse to believe that washing buds won't harm them. When I lived in Florida we had afternoon thunderstorms that only lasted 20 minutes but would dump almost 2 inches of rain in that short period of time and this happens daily during the summer. Yet, my outdoor girls were just covered in trichomes. Heck most of the weed I smoked back in the 70s came from South America (tropical storms) or Southeast Asia (monsoons) and that weed was always pretty dammed good.

As you said to each their own and I can understand the trepidation before washing your buds the first time, I know I was wondering if this was the biggest mistake possible my first time. But once someone does it I don't think they would go back to smoking unwashed buds. I never considered washing already dried bud, like a street purchase, but I might think about it next time I ever have to buy locally. You never know what they were spraying on those buds, possibly everything from foliar sprays to insecticide.
 
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