4000 Watt Top-Feed Rec Grow Cubes Cap'n Style OG Kush

[Hiker]

Would love to see what your up to. You still coming out this year?

No. My renter is renewing their lease. That's good, but I was looking forward to seeing Flag again. oh well.

BTW, I got the Bubble Head bags. They are all mesh also and seem to be high quality, but these are the only ones I've ever had or used. I do like the all mesh I think, but KJC's bags are much less $$.

 

[Crawdaddy]

OH yeah, baby! Lookin good. But throw away that florakleen I see in the picture.

It came with the GH box of small bottle of all their flora series, have not used it yet. What is wrong with it? and what should I use to flush?

So the problem with my right knee that qualifies me for a replacement is all fired up and aggravated today, sheesh I need to work not rest, got the knee brace on and its not helping. Damage is done I guess.

I feel your pain man, I have a bad left knee due to car accident at 2.5 years old, surgery on it 10+ times, having another one 4/4. But at least it gives me excuse for my medical card Honestly pot does not help with pain, just makes it easier to deal with. I am not a big backer of the medical marijuana movement as I believe it should be legal for everyone(of age) to use and I feel that this whole 'medical' movement, when everyone knows the vast majority of 'medical' users are only using it to get high, is seen by those that do not want it legalized as an excuse to use, and we should not need an excuse. It, the medical movement, just clouds the issue that it should be legal because of personal freedom. That being said, there are a few very legitimate and very limited REAL medical uses for weed, but honestly pain control is not one of them.

 

[Hiker]

Honestly pot does not help with pain, just makes it easier to deal with. I am not a big backer of the medical marijuana movement as I believe it should be legal for everyone(of age) to use and I feel that this whole 'medical' movement, when everyone knows the vast majority of 'medical' users are only using it to get high, is seen by those that do not want it legalized as an excuse to use, and we should not need an excuse. It, the medical movement, just clouds the issue that it should be legal because of personal freedom. That being said, there are a few very legitimate and very limited REAL medical uses for weed, but honestly pain control is not one of them.

But you said it yourself. It makes it easier to deal with. I'm sure that the vast majority of legal mmj patients qualify due to some pain related ailment. I fall into that category. Does it make the pain go away? No. Does it help? Yes! I would not even go so far as to say it lessens the pain. I think it might dull it a little, but mostly, the cannabis makes me not mind it so much. Isn't that still helping? If my options are feel the pain with nothing, not feel pain on pharma poisons, or still feel the pain but not mind it, I'll choose the last one.

I agree with your premise that the medical movement was hijacked, at least a little, to help create a quasi legal channel for recreational smokers. I also agree that it has muddied the waters a little. While that may be a negative, I think it's has a positive influence overall. If nothing else, it's raised awareness among the general populace and sends a message that this "evil drug" is not so bad after all.

Anyway, don't discount Cannabis's ability to help with pain management. After all, it's "management", not abatement.

All in all though I get what you're saying and mostly agree. Just consider that some of us define how Cannabis benefits our pain differently.

 

[Crawdaddy]

Hiker, I should have worded my thoughts a bit better, like you said it does not 'dull' the pain, but yes it helps with pain management. On the other hand things that do actually dull the pain, for me I do not feel any better unless take 2-3 Vicodin at a minimum, have other side effects, not to mention the addiction component, never sought treatment but I was addicted to Vicodin in the early 1990's after having an extrenal fixation device on my leg for 1.5 years.

AS a final thought, everyone is different and it works different for each person, I just think the end goal should be broad legalization for everyone, and this would open up the medical world too, because actual medical studies could be done, what a concept, science! As of now, we have crackpots saying 'Cannabis will cure all cancer' and BS like that, when those that oppose legalization here things like this, they put us all into that boat of 'delusional pot smokers' or the such and marks it harder for us that approach the argument from a more sound concept(imo of course), like personal freedom, that actually appeals to many of those that oppose legalization otherwise.

It is kind of funny that I do not favor the medical argument because of the ignorance of the masses, but it is what it is.

Anyhow, last I say on this cause do not want to hijack s1ng's thread with pot politics I realized after I posted that I probably should have not for that reason, my bad.

 

[Hiker]

Hiker, I should have worded my thoughts a bit better, like you said it does not 'dull' the pain, but yes it helps with pain management. On the other hand things that do actually dull the pain, for me I do not feel any better unless take 2-3 Vicodin at a minimum, have other side effects, not to mention the addiction component, never sought treatment but I was addicted to Vicodin in the early 1990's after having an extrenal fixation device on my leg for 1.5 years.

AS a final thought, everyone is different and it works different for each person, I just think the end goal should be broad legalization for everyone, and this would open up the medical world too, because actual medical studies could be done, what a concept, science! As of now, we have crackpots saying 'Cannabis will cure all cancer' and BS like that, when those that oppose legalization here things like this, they put us all into that boat of 'delusional pot smokers' or the such and marks it harder for us that approach the argument from a more sound concept(imo of course), like personal freedom, that actually appeals to many of those that oppose legalization otherwise.

It is kind of funny that I do not favor the medical argument because of the ignorance of the masses, but it is what it is.

Anyhow, last I say on this cause do not want to hijack s1ng's thread with pot politics I realized after I posted that I probably should have not for that reason, my bad.

No worries my friend.

I wasn't trying to start a debate. Again, I agree with you completely. I'm sure many people have pain that opiates provide relief from. Thankfully, mine is not so bad that I need those sorts of meds. Those that do have my heartfelt condolences.

I hope Sl1ng doesn't mind a little more political talk...

Ya, saying "Cannabis cures cancer" is probably doing almost as much damage as it might be helping. There are countless examples of heavy cannabis users dieing of cancer. Anyone heard of this guy named Bob Marley?

One problem with the legalization effort is some of the folks out there as the "face" of Cannabis users. Unfortunately, some of our best spokepeople will not step forward... the growers! It's been my experience that most growers are not the stereotypical "stoner". You can't be a lazy and unmotivated and properly care for a plant. All of the "good" growers I've known IRL have been very different from the stoner characters we see portrayed in the media. While I am an avid advocate, I'm not a vocal one. I certainly attempt to educate whenever possible, but only when it won't draw suspicion to the fact I'm a grower.

After what Canada pulled with getting growers to register and then revoke their "right" to grow, I don't trust WA or the US at all. It makes me mad that it is illegal to grow a plant. A plant!!!!!!! Things look promising in CO, but I really think WA is gonna make growing illegal again.

OK sorry Sl1ng, Crawdaddy and everyone. The current climate here in WA has me spooked and I kinda got on a soapbox there.

 

[s1ingblade]

No problem guys, I enjoy hearing different views.
For me It helps, does it make it all go away, not often. I have had days that after medicating I would realize an hour later the severe nerve pain either went away or I was able to tune it out, not sure.
For me cannabis helps me in a lot of was but MOST of all it keeps me off the sauce. I am a retired PRO alcoholic and if it wasn't for being able to spark up a few times a day I'd have a hell of a harder time staying on the wagon. SO it's either alcoholic or workaholic, ill choose the later.

well as much as I don't want to admit it I played hooky with sWeetP most of the day after the lights went off, fun and needed once in a while to keep from going crazy.
We did spend some of the day looking at you tuber vids of trimmers, manual and powered. There is a 3 speed trim reaper pro model that I am thinking about purchasing, its $450 bucks or close to that price, kind of a generic trim pro rotor with workstation.
I know a few here have advised against the cheaper bowl type trimmers for 150-300 bucks, too bad cause it looks like they do a decent job.
KingJohnC let me know the 3 speed one Im looking at is similar to his and if I am willing to loose some trics it will work great. Not sure if were going to make the investment or just continue trimming more days than not.

OK here goes the final weights for the last OG Kush Run. 32+ OZ.

4 Plants in one 4x4 tray under 1000 watts super HPS (hortilux) in a 5x5 screen netted me over 32 ounces, dried and jarred. I am pleased that 4 plants vs. one TINY one one can outperform the solo GIANT under half the Lumens. Tiny (single plant, 3 month veg) was under two XXXL Magnum style hoods each sporting a new 1000 watt Hortilux's Super HPS. Funny thing is one of the four was in a 3 gallon air pot vs the other 3 that were in larger 5 gallon containers. I feel confident that 40 zips (RW mini cubes and top feed) can be accomplished if your dialed in and have zero problems. These OGs were vegged half as long al,o. 4 cu ft per plant worked great and I plan on working it into my permanent schedule.

 

[s1ingblade]

Yeah I think Marijuana should be allowed for everyone the same way aspirin is.
To be 1000% honest pot helps me with my pain, I know it doesn't for everyone but it does for me, does it make it all go away? No. It def makes it easier for me to deal with the pain but theres times it helps as well or better than the stupid pills.

 

[CronicHempHog]

pills are crap and too many bad side effects we all know what the side effects are for this herb im hungry and im gonna take a nap
pain even with pain pills doesn't go away and it just makes you feel like crap
smoke a joint the pains still there but you don't care as much and can concentrate on other things
so many pills nowadays and so many bad side effects law suits but all these drugs hit the market and some really shouldn't
you can take a pill to help you with something and it has a chance of killing you some other way

 

[BigIrishDoode]

GREAT HAUL slingy!!! i have to say cannabis most definatly does dull my pain as much or more than the high octane pain meds im on, but its strain dependant as much as i love my sour diesel#2 it actually amps my pain, but gdp is better than oxe for out n out painkiller,the caveat is it puts me to sleep, not good for daytime, i need totals on both knees and have multiple bulging discs causing insane nerve pain down my legs, but heavy indicas stop it almost completely, now if i can find a daytime strain that does the same...my 2 c

 

[s1ingblade]

I got my Magic Butter Maker yesterday evening, THANKS MAGIC BUTTER MAKER and 420MAGAZINE.COM and of course EVERYONE who voted for me.
The word of the day is Titration
I placed an order for some critical mass cbd, I haven't grown a cbd rich strain since Harlequin 2 years ago. I hope to be able to offer my patients some meds that specialize in pain relief, hoping it will make some bomb edibles

 

[Hiker]

For me It helps, does it make it all go away, not often. I have had days that after medicating I would realize an hour later the severe nerve pain either went away or I was able to tune it out, not sure.

For me cannabis helps me in a lot of was but MOST of all it keeps me off the sauce. I am a retired PRO alcoholic and if it wasn't for being able to spark up a few times a day I'd have a hell of a harder time staying on the wagon. SO it's either alcoholic or workaholic, ill choose the later.

The first part is a good description of my experience.

The second part isn't exactly me. I was only an amateur, but I can still relate. I know I function better on Cannabis than alcohol. If I don't have any smoke (rare nowdays), I crave a drink more. When I smoke, I rarely think about it.

Not sure if were going to make the investment or just continue trimming more days than not.

Please share what you decide. As I head into this next harvest (sure to be my largest), I'm considering a mechanical solution of some kind to help with the trimming. I've had 3 of us the first 2 times, but this round will only be 2 of us. In fact, after today, I won't be around for a few days.

in a 5x5 screen netted me over 32 ounces, dried and jarred.

1.28 oz/sqft
That's a great result!
I know there are other benchmarks, but I think yield/area is the easiest to compare apples to oranges in terms of lighting.

i have to say cannabis most definatly does dull my pain as much or more than the high octane pain meds im on, but its strain dependant as much as i love my sour diesel#2 it actually amps my pain, but gdp is better than oxe for out n out painkiller,the caveat is it puts me to sleep, not good for daytime, i need totals on both knees and have multiple bulging discs causing insane nerve pain down my legs, but heavy indicas stop it almost completely, now if i can find a daytime strain that does the same...my 2 c

It's very true that it's strain dependent! When I really hurt (a lot lately), I've been 'frosting' my bong loads with hash. My hash is a mix of all my strains, but when I smoke just buds I have the same experience as you. Some of my strains help dull the pain more than others. Last round was the first time I tried hash making. This time I will be making hash from single strains. It will be be difficult and involve many hours, but I'm willing to do the research and test the hash from each individual strain.

I'll share my results... if I remember

 

[KingJohnC]

Yep those are the ones, Id pass if I could go back and buy em again. Im sure I can get em to work to an extent. If I keep at it and get better maybe Ill get the real bubble bags brand, the best IMHO.
Yours look interesting seeing the whole bag is a screen?

The whole bag is made of mesh so the liquid can drain more easily from the sides of the bag speeding up how long it takes the liquid to drain through the finer mesh bags.

 

[s1ingblade]

Please share what you decide. As I head into this next harvest (sure to be my largest), I'm considering a mechanical solution of some kind to help with the trimming. I've had 3 of us the first 2 times, but this round will only be 2 of us. In fact, after today, I won't be around for a few days.

Forsure Hiker, to be honest were going to sleep on it for a while as theres two totally different trimmers we are interested in. So far it looks like the more expensive "Humbolt Harvester" which is also called wander trimmer by ez-trim. Its cool cause you don't have to tumble the complete flower loosing trics. also you can still hang dry. Its got a rotating head that attaches to a vacuum.
No matter which route we go I will inform all ya'll.

I think one of the BIGGEST things that will help us is to grow strains that have a higher calyx to leaf ratio like my OG instead of strains that have a high leaf to calyx ratio like the Pineapple Skunk, if its not super bomb that strain will be no more.

The whole bag is made of mesh so the liquid can drain more easily from the sides of the bag speeding up how long it takes the liquid to drain through the finer mesh bags.

I saw a trick on the smaller mesh bags to help them drain and its to bounce the bag up and down and what it does is it gets the resin to stop clogging the bag for a second and it gets the water to rush out until the resin settles again Dude drained out his 25 Micron bag in seconds, cool stuff

 

[BigIrishDoode]

I got my Magic Butter Maker yesterday evening, THANKS MAGIC BUTTER MAKER and 420MAGAZINE.COM and of course EVERYONE who voted for me.
The word of the day is Titration
I placed an order for some critical mass cbd, I haven't grown a cbd rich strain since Harlequin 2 years ago. I hope to be able to offer my patients some meds that specialize in pain relief, hoping it will make some bomb edibles

oooooooh nice! im jealous i need a high cbd,but after that last trip with losing them 3 times i refuse to do it again,the stress is to much
you will love the butter machine,im still waiting on everything but the stuff from the headquarters that came quick, i love the sns stuff and the doggett & simpson stuff is nice too especially part 1

 

[brazel]

So after more research (my fault) I have decided the best bags have to be the original bubble bags. Best price I could find was just over $250. I have a feeling Ill do the best I can with what I have and when my technique is there then spend more cash. UNLESS the company indeed honors their 30 day customer satisfaction guarantee. Im worried sending used bags is more risk than reward. I mean I already wasted 120 bucks no use giving the whole project away over that cost lol.
Someone will get a nice gift

Hey s1ingblade, you have one impressive grow!!...or a shitload of them=) wow and congrats on being in the 1lb club! I'm a lil late to the party but hey who does like to make an entrance.
I've used the bubble head bags and like them but I've been wanting to try the bubble magic shakers with dry ice. you have used or words of wisdom on them? enjoi yo sunday

 

[CronicHempHog]

I would like to get some bubble bags one day

 

[TheCapn]

It came with the GH box of small bottle of all their flora series, have not used it yet. What is wrong with it? and what should I use to flush?

It's ok to use at the VERY end of the grow for flush; just don't use it "mid" grow. It's to difficult to flush out and then the plant starves because it can't get nutrients. Ask AG, he learned the same lesson I did.

 

[Light Addict]

Hope all is well in the big beastie world of s1ingblade

 

[TheCapn]

chop, trim run. chop, trim run. Im stuck in a time loop!
Enjoy
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My visit to sling's ranch, and the new "shack":

I apologize I cannot document my adventure with pictures, so you'll just have to "imagine" there are pictures in this post.

I've been chit-chatting with sling for about a year now. Recently I had a business conference about 6 hours from sling's location, so I decided to pay him a visit. After a week of sleep deprivation, I rented a car and started driving.

When I pulled up to the shack, I was overcome with envy! Not only was the building awesome, but the detail sling had put into it was A+ professional. The electric, the insulation, the floor, the moisture barrier, etc... I won't get into every little thing, but his attention to detail is stellar. I only had a few minutes to check it out and then we were headed to the ranch, trying to get there before 10am when the lights go off.

So we get in the truck and head for the ranch. I had about ZERO hours of sleep the night before. I can't remember the last time I was in a car and I wasn't driving... and then the road turned to gravel, and started getting bumpy. Oh man I was getting a little car sick. I'm not talking about a bumpy gravel road, I'm talking about we were nearly "Four wheelin" in some spots.... and we were even pulling a flat bed trailer. Finally, we pull up to a gate, sling gets out of the truck and unlocks it. Then we go a bit further, and we pull up to the ranch. I'm pretty car sick by now. I'm looking around and I am literally in the middle of "no-where's-ville". We are at least an hour from civilization. Sling could have buried me alive and I would never be found. But he spared me, this time ha ha.

I get out of the car, and I think I heard a coyote howl and a tumbleweed blow by. I'm greeted by sling's dog, who wanted to eat me at first. Once he knew I was a friend, he was still cautious but loved the snacks I gave him. Good boy. I can smell the pineapple kush. This stuff is dank! We enter the ranch and it all makes sense now. All the pictures I've seen sling post, now I can put it all together. The "big flower room", the "little flower room", the veg room, and the living quarters. Oh yeah, talk about a "man cave". This is the 2nd most ultimate set up, next to his new "shack" ;-)

If you've followed my posts, you probably already know I'm not easily impressed, but Sling's scrogged plants in flower were redic. There was at least 60 sq feet of complete buds (and that's with one tray already harvested). Amazing. Sling has dialed in "capn style" growing. I got to see "tiny 2" up close and personal. The pictures don't do it justice. No doubt, the biggest and most healthy specimen I've seen indoors. Absolutely beautiful. Sling makes it look easy, guys. I have to say I was most impressed by Sling's Veg area. His plants looked like they should be in a magazine. One after the other. Perfect specimens. Bushy, green, no deficiencies, no burn... just perfect looking plants. One thing I noticed is sling leans on the side of "letting them do their own thing", rather than messing with them every day. He tops them here and there, but for the most part, he lets them grow, without torturing them. I like that.

I wanted to soak in the aroma and the beauty for awhile, but we got wittbags, so there was no time for slackers. We took down some equipment, loaded up the trailer and the truck, and headed back to the new shack. The first priority was to dial up the 80's music, then get to work. Sling installed the power panel, while I started building the walls, to section off the flower and veg areas. Within a couple days we had the walls built (mostly), a light proof door between veg and flower, and on the 3rd day we focused on ventilation. One system only for cooling lights, and another system for pulling out hot, humid air (scrubbing the odor with carbon and UV). Let me tell ya, this sling is no stoner. This guy gets up early and gets it done.

I'm proud so say I got got to help out on such a top notch project. I don't have any "grower" friends in my area, so it was really nice to hang with sling and learn from a pro. Sling is humble on this forum, but his stuff is A+. He has bragging rights. It's easy to have a shed delivered to your place, but to build it out like sling has, is not so easy, and requires planning, attention to detail, and most of all, having "wittbag", day after day.

Way to go, Sling and thanks again for having me.

 

[s1ingblade]

Hey s1ingblade, you have one impressive grow!!...or a shitload of them=) wow and congrats on being in the 1lb club! I'm a lil late to the party but hey who does like to make an entrance.
I've used the bubble head bags and like them but I've been wanting to try the bubble magic shakers with dry ice. you have used or words of wisdom on them? enjoy yo sunday

Thanks a lot
As for the Dry Ice shaker method? I love it, so easy and you get a lot of the resin glands, no doubt. Ill have the better bags tomorrow and will most likey run them soon. I have this feeling I will no longer have a full freezer full of A+ Trim

I would like to get some bubble bags one day

Theres some deals out there, but beware you get what you pay for. If I could find the missing 6 (brand new) of the 8 bags set Id give them to ya, they are the 40 dollar bags on the auction site. To be honest I think they would work better than the magic bubble ones. There way to thick IMHO

Hope all is well in the big beastie world of s1ingblade

Oh yeah just fighting a bad cold virus. Hope your doing great as well

My visit to sling's ranch, and the new "shack":

I apologize I cannot document my adventure with pictures, so you'll just have to "imagine" there are pictures in this post.

I've been chit-chatting with sling for about a year now. Recently I had a business conference about 6 hours from sling's location, so I decided to pay him a visit. After a week of sleep deprivation, I rented a car and started driving.

When I pulled up to the shack, I was overcome with envy! Not only was the building awesome, but the detail sling had put into it was A+ professional. The electric, the insulation, the floor, the moisture barrier, etc... I won't get into every little thing, but his attention to detail is stellar. I only had a few minutes to check it out and then we were headed to the ranch, trying to get there before 10am when the lights go off.

So we get in the truck and head for the ranch. I had about ZERO hours of sleep the night before. I can't remember the last time I was in a car and I wasn't driving... and then the road turned to gravel, and started getting bumpy. Oh man I was getting a little car sick. I'm not talking about a bumpy gravel road, I'm talking about we were nearly "Four wheelin" in some spots.... and we were even pulling a flat bed trailer. Finally, we pull up to a gate, sling gets out of the truck and unlocks it. Then we go a bit further, and we pull up to the ranch. I'm pretty car sick by now. I'm looking around and I am literally in the middle of "no-where's-ville". We are at least an hour from civilization. Sling could have buried me alive and I would never be found. But he spared me, this time ha ha.

I get out of the car, and I think I heard a coyote howl and a tumbleweed blow by. I'm greeted by sling's dog, who wanted to eat me at first. Once he knew I was a friend, he was still cautious but loved the snacks I gave him. Good boy. I can smell the pineapple kush. This stuff is dank! We enter the ranch and it all makes sense now. All the pictures I've seen sling post, now I can put it all together. The "big flower room", the "little flower room", the veg room, and the living quarters. Oh yeah, talk about a "man cave". This is the 2nd most ultimate set up, next to his new "shack" ;-)

If you've followed my posts, you probably already know I'm not easily impressed, but Sling's scrogged plants in flower were redic. There was at least 60 sq feet of complete buds (and that's with one tray already harvested). Amazing. Sling has dialed in "capn style" growing. I got to see "tiny 2" up close and personal. The pictures don't do it justice. No doubt, the biggest and most healthy specimen I've seen indoors. Absolutely beautiful. Sling makes it look easy, guys. I have to say I was most impressed by Sling's Veg area. His plants looked like they should be in a magazine. One after the other. Perfect specimens. Bushy, green, no deficiencies, no burn... just perfect looking plants. One thing I noticed is sling leans on the side of "letting them do their own thing", rather than messing with them every day. He tops them here and there, but for the most part, he lets them grow, without torturing them. I like that.

I wanted to soak in the aroma and the beauty for awhile, but we got wittbags, so there was no time for slackers. We took down some equipment, loaded up the trailer and the truck, and headed back to the new shack. The first priority was to dial up the 80's music, then get to work. Sling installed the power panel, while I started building the walls, to section off the flower and veg areas. Within a couple days we had the walls built (mostly), a light proof door between veg and flower, and on the 3rd day we focused on ventilation. One system only for cooling lights, and another system for pulling out hot, humid air (scrubbing the odor with carbon and UV). Let me tell ya, this sling is no stoner. This guy gets up early and gets it done.

I'm proud so say I got got to help out on such a top notch project. I don't have any "grower" friends in my area, so it was really nice to hang with sling and learn from a pro. Sling is humble on this forum, but his stuff is A+. He has bragging rights. It's easy to have a shed delivered to your place, but to build it out like sling has, is not so easy, and requires planning, attention to detail, and most of all, having "wittbag", day after day.

Way to go, Sling and thanks again for having me.

I'll get some dramamine next time lol
It was my pleasure sir, your always welcome and you have an open return invitation my friend.
Even though us WITTBAGERS ( what it takes to be a grower) don't have much time to have fun it was a blast and I had lots of fun having you over.
We got to get together again soon and it would be cool to head west next time and see your hometown

So I wanted to have a little fun with my old 2.3 MP Nikon (sorry about the choppy sound, mics old)
Heres my 3rd video that basically shows a quick peak at how the C.A.P. Xtreme Nano ballast work with there delayed start function. Not sure what they call it but its where the ballasts don't all fire at once and tax the wire and circuits more than necessary. That and my thoughts about the issues Im having hanging XXXL Hoods
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