2nd Inside Grow

yep, my soil plants are not on double but my dwc is,

im growing the same strains ive grown before, but as i was always told autos need the most light i grew all my plants under 20-4 or 24-0 in veg, all my autos did poor and i was about to swap my dual spec hps for a mh for veg and normal hps for flower, but i switched my lights to 17-7 for this grow, now these plants ive grown before are doing so much better, growth is twice as much, ive never seen this strain with leaves this big in my other grows, nothing has changed apart from the plants getting less light,

for instance my autos was grown under 20-4 i was getting around 1/4oz per plant, then i grew them under 12-12 and got 3ft palnts with 2oz yield, so clearly autos flower due to light hours and not days, so giving an auto 20-4 means their maturing to early and starting to flower around week 2, under 12-12 they started flowering around week 4 and took 4 weeks longer to finish, usually my autos would harvest at 1ft, under 12-12 they reached 3ft with 1ft buds, my last auto under 12-12 had 4 1ft buds the pics are in my journal,

so now im growing the same autos under 17-7 with my regular plants and ill grow some more under 12-12 just to make sure its working how i think it works,
i think an auto works on light hours, for example 240 hours of light till harvest
under 24-0 thats 10 days, its just an example but easier to explain this way,
under 12-12 it takes twice as long
we know plants grow roots in the dark, more roots means the plant takes more nutrients and more water, this comes into the dwc post below, plus it repairs damage done in day light hours and the plant also stretches to find the light, this is why when we flip regular plants 12-12 they stretch for the first few weeks, their trying to get back to the light, just the same as a plant in the shade or to far from light it just makes them stretch,
so autos under 12-12 are stretching in the dark which means more nodes and longer branches, this means more buds, so at the minute it looks like giving autos 20-4 or 24-0 is the wrong idea and just makes them mature to early and gives poor yields, giving them a longer night period makes them grow bigger but they take slightly longer to grow, so ill try and find the sweet spot their under 17-7 now then ill try 16-8 and see which method works best for autos,

now we get onto the double dose bpn,
my dwc that im growing now is a strain ive grown before, ive got one in soil and one in dwc again this time, now under 20-4 the roots didnt get to the bottom of the res until nearly before i flipped 12-12, under 17-7 my dwc is about 7 inches high but the roots are nearly 3ft long, so clearly the extra dark period is growing the roots, the leaves are huge as well, twice the size compared with under 20-4, then i noticed it was looking a little pale so i upped the bpn dose, it went back a nice green colour for a couple of days then went light again, it seemed as if the more the roots grew the more the plant grew and the more nutrients and water it could take in,
so i kept upping the dose and im about at double dose now on the veg2 schedule, im using 3parts plus bloom booster so its just getting the grow/micro and bloom at the moment, no bloom booster,

the plant is now a nice shade of green, the leaves feel much better than any of the spoil plants or any of the other dwc in the past, im pretty sure 17-7 is whats giving the plants the boost their getting, ive never been able to up the dose this much before with any of my plants, now my soil plants are not on double dose, they cant take it, i have only just upped to the next schedule from veg 1 to veg 2 with the soil plants as they showed signs of stress when i upped the dose to early so backed off again, so its the dwc thats taking the double dose of bpn, i wouldnt get trying it without gradually upping the dose over a week or more,

but yes my dwc is now taking double dose of bpn 3 part, grow,micro and bloom, im amazed with the results this time round, all my plants are growing like crazy, their growing much faster now compared with 20-4, nothing at all has changed apart from the light schedule, so these plants will grow under 24-0 and 20-4 we all know this, but clearly giving them more dark allows more root growth and more stretch during dark period, my plants still have very close node spacing, so not stretching in a bad way, but both the stem and branches are growing quick,

so from now on ill be using 18-6 and below for all future grows, when im not growing autos ill use glr as that done well in the past but cant use it with autos,

when i spoke with corey last i asked about upping the dose, he said it is ok to up the dose as long as its gradual, he said the feeding guide on his site is set up for all types of grows and different soils, so he said some soils might want a higher dose so it can be adjusted to suit the plants and environment, he said the guide he put up is just a guide and one that works with both hydro and soil grows so their is room to adjust and up the dose as needed, in the past ive tried upping the dose but ive never been able to up it this much,
but this dwc just seems to keep on wanting more, the roots have not got longer in the last couple of days but they pretty much filled the res now, so when i get up tomorrow im going to have to find a bigger res,
 
ive also found out that clones tend to fade after a while under 24-0, so going something like 20-4 would be a good option for clones then lower the light period a bit each week after they have rooted until your at the schedule you want,

just look how much plants stretch when flipped to 12-12, they do this as their looking for the light, when they get used to 12-12 they stop stretching, so during veg giving them some dark period will make the plant get taller and branches get longer, this means more nodes and more bud sites, at least this is what im finding with my plants and its why several growers use glr,
 
good morning and a fine weed to you miwa:)
 
wth..i got to find a way to know what plant is what..i keep losing lables..these are unlabled...one of 3 strains...PH--PE--HP...


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guess i'll just have to wait...garden is crowded...got the fans going..waiting on the LBs...
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fogponics got brown tips but growing..

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looks like a male...
 
you had better order a lot of lady bugs!
you gonna need help smokin all that? They Look Great Miwa!!
 
use permanent markers and plastic plant marker things, permanent marker wont wash off in rain,

dont worry, im just as bad, when i transplant i forget to move the markers to the new pots,
so im in the same boat, what i do now is use marker and write on the side of the pot whats in it, easy indoors but outdoors you would need some plastic markers or even write it on some wood and put it on ground at base of plant or tie something round the stem with permanent marker on it, then at least when you harvest you will find the label,

another option is the bag the seeds come in, i wedge these down the side of the pot so i know what strain it is,
 
man...i have another alien growing..they say its a genectic defect..so what happen..did i defect the genectics..must have..this was a clone and it has about 8 sisters growing..annnnd..had a accident in the garden..a pole...fence rail...fell on my bush...took the top right off and 4 side branches hanging by their skin...on a better note..the PE clones i took has rooted..so i'm good on pineapple express...guess i'll put them in water..they are all reveg clones..as soon as i clear the flowering rm...i'm going to start flowering some of these pots...spread this harvest out...got the top overhead waiting for the LBs..got the worm bin ready..waiting on the worms..should be here friday...if these worms act right..my fertilizer buying days are over..worm poop and perlite..next ...fish tank...fish poop on the menu...stay focus...
 
Love the Igloo Cooler. Should help keep temps alittle better than other containers. Alittle ice on them hot days and poof buds. Well we could hope it was as easy as poof. But hell then everyone wood be growing. Keepem Green My Friend
 
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This summer grow is pictures of the beginning, First picture.
Middle of grow. Second Picture.
The rest pictures are what they all look like as of last week. 7/6/13 Approx around there.
they are Wonder Woman, Skunk#1 and Master Kush. One is supposed to be Blue Lemon Thai but I may have given that one away or is turned male awhile back. Don't know which one is what. Forgot to put their names on them when I transplanted them. Oh well, I'm learning. Waiting on the full moon to harvest one of them. trichomes are some cloudy and some amber. I have some heavy re-vegging of 3 of them but don't really mind, they may take longer but I will yield much more. Had to double pot the 3 because they root-bounded their 5 gal. buckets in the 3rd week of flowering and did not want to stress them. Went from 5-6 tops to 15-8 fully flower with the rest of the plant. It's all great here in hawaii.
 
I got a little chemdawg clone i made thats about the same size as your fogponics. Its in a 15 gallon inside my greenhouse. Lets have a race between the two and see which wins :)

What strain did you say the fogponics was?
 
Happy Friedday miwa:)
 
Love the Igloo Cooler. Should help keep temps alittle better than other containers. Alittle ice on them hot days and poof buds. Well we could hope it was as easy as poof. But hell then everyone wood be growing. Keepem Green My Friend

Hey Wood...yeah..i thought the cooler would keep temps down..the fogger i had inside kept raising the temp..so i'm going to put the fogger in a separate container..thats another project..meantime i put that bagseed in a DWC...raise its nute ppm to 800 and pu it under a CFL on 17/7...i got 5 pineapple express clones with roots..i'll use one of those to do another fogponics...Sunnyside..how you doing..i see you got it going on..your plants are looking great..wish i was in Hawaii..i love growing..keep in touch...



Happy Friedday miwa:)


thanks Fish..have a good weekend...hang around and check out my Alien...



I got a little chemdawg clone i made thats about the same size as your fogponics. Its in a 15 gallon inside my greenhouse. Lets have a race between the two and see which wins :)

What strain did you say the fogponics was?

great Jimmy..thats a bagseed..i had to take it out of the fog..the fogger was heating the water..i'm going to start another one and put the fogger in a separate container..got 5 rooted PE clones..we can race ,,,i got the bagseed in a DWC under a CFL...in a gallon container...when the roots outgrow that i'll go to a 2 gal pot..just like growing in soil..i'll increase container size as the plant roots increase...to win the race u gotta stay focus...one of my hash plant clones..i had on compost tea went Alien on me...the tea was good..don't know how i messed up the genectes...nothing wrong with its mama ..nor sisters...but they didn't get no tea...i can put this in the ground in my front yard..naw...5-O might know wht it is..but i'm keeping this one alive..this is my 3rd one..the other ones were bagseed...hope the mailman got my LBs and red wrigglers..heres the pics...one of OMM's plant twin..


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ok..now i got to water and feed..a beautiful day in the neighborhood..
 
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