2nd Grow: Bodhi Seeds - Strawberry Fantasy

[Sparkey224]

I understand you are not doing it to reveg but happens with changing the light schedule. I know we all panic on regs but if he grabs 5 or 6 females , the males would be culled a week before.
The most stress I've ever given my plants is doing what you guys mentioned. They're is no short cuts sexting plants.
You can and it's been done before but why waist you time with taking shortcuts and prolonged growth. It makes no sense to me

 

[Azimuth]

It seems as though doing it early, before the seedling really sets itself, avoids the typical reveg leaf patterns and associated hormone issues. But, like Keffka said, we don't know the boundaries yet so it may well be there are unexpected issues down the line.

 

[Sparkey224]

Ok, stick with that and see how it works for you.
This dude is a first time grower and you want him to do something impulsive, make no sense that you admit the "boundaries" maybe I wouldn't comment if you didn't know 100%
Let OP experience the full affect

 

[Azimuth]

Ok, stick with that and see how it works for you.
This dude is a first time grower and you want him to do something impulsive, make no sense that you admit the "boundaries" maybe I wouldn't comment if you didn't know 100%
Let OP experience the full affect

Point taken.

 

[Keffka]

Ok, stick with that and see how it works for you.
This dude is a first time grower and you want him to do something impulsive, make no sense that you admit the "boundaries" maybe I wouldn't comment if you didn't know 100%
Let OP experience the full affect

First, @2Water don’t go crazy. Stick with refining your methods and processes until you’re confident in your ways. Once that happens then you can start branching out to the experimental stuff. Or ignore that and do whatever you want, it’s your grow It’s usually best for newer growers to get the basics and foundations down first but it also doesn’t hurt to get useful tips along the way for later use. Stick that 12/12 from sprout tip in your back pocket for next grow.

@ double G, we’re not revegging as far as I can tell. There’s no lingering effects, no stunting, no mutating, root growth and resource consumption patterns are typical as well. I wish we had a homegrown way to monitor hormones and meristem cells though because I have a strong suspicion it’s hormone related.

Regardless it’s awesome news for regular seed growers, especially those on limited space and resource budgets. You could sex in a solo cup without harming or stunting the plant.

 

[2Water]

You can sex them in 1 gal or 1/2 containers and still have room in you tent no problem. That can throw some of your plants to be wonky "reveg".
Keep them on 18/6 like you have it. No rush at this point

I think that would best

 

[2Water]

First, @2Water don’t go crazy. Stick with refining your methods and processes until you’re confident in your ways. Once that happens then you can start branching out to the experimental stuff. Or ignore that and do whatever you want, it’s your grow It’s usually best for newer growers to get the basics and foundations down first but it also doesn’t hurt to get useful tips along the way for later use. Stick that 12/12 from sprout tip in your back pocket for next grow.

@ double G, we’re not revegging as far as I can tell. There’s no lingering effects, no stunting, no mutating, root growth and resource consumption patterns are typical as well. I wish we had a homegrown way to monitor hormones and meristem cells though because I have a strong suspicion it’s hormone related.

Regardless it’s awesome news for regular seed growers, especially those on limited space and resource budgets. You could sex in a solo cup without harming or stunting the plant.

Thanks, all 3 of you have given me something to look into. Yeah, I think it's safer to stick with what I have going at the moment, but I love to learn and experiment

 

[Keffka]

Thanks, all 3 of you have given me something to look into. Yeah, I think it's safer to stick with what I have going at the moment, but I love to learn and experiment

Everyone has their tips, tricks, methods and quirks. Especially with something like growing cannabis. It can be done so many different ways. Most of the people that fail long term do so because they don’t stick to it. They jump from method to method, nutrient line to nutrient line but never spend any time fully learning any of it. Pick a method and stick to it until you’ve got it. You WILL get it. Every one of us has the ability to grow it just takes practice.

 

[Gee64]

Hi 2water

Lol you guys are all so funny We aren't manipulating the light schedule to 12/12 on the seedlings (which very consistantly showed sex at 28-32 days) or screwing with the plant.

Indica's possibly, sativa's which is what I mainly grow, no.

Think about it.

Lets start with sativas.... They are from equatorial regions and they are from regions where the natural light schedule is 12 hr days. When seeds ripen they fall to the ground, sprout at 12/12, and it is what it is. Weed grows year round.

Indicas live in the north (hemps too) where the days get very long but the seeds are frozen still on the plant when early winter rolls in fast. Come spring the seeds thaw and sprout at about 12 hours a day but getting longer.

Then we come along and exploit the plant with nutrient indulgence and light manipulation to the point that letting it go back to 12 hour days for sexing is worthy of a discussion as to whether or not you are harming the plant.

The trick is keeping seedlings alive and healthy in a solo cup for 30 days.

Revegging is very different. The plant has activated death hormones and then we light manipulate it to change the plant back to presex mode. Even though the reveg won't change sex its still forced back into juvenile mode which stops death. Vegetative mode.

If you get 3 bladed leaves, and you will, feed the plant a heavy veg diet and raise humidity to 60. 3 blades (other than the duck-foot mutation) means the plant isn't eating properly. Most reveg's are done in flowering pots so you end up vegging a plant in flower soil. Feed it and give it veg teas and myco and the blades will increase.

 

[Gee64]

What are you using for a growing style? Are you using synthetics or organics?

 

[Sparkey224]

Hi 2water

Lol you guys are all so funny We aren't manipulating the light schedule to 12/12 on the seedlings (which very consistantly showed sex at 28-32 days) or screwing with the plant.

Indica's possibly, sativa's which is what I mainly grow, no.

Think about it.

Lets start with sativas.... They are from equatorial regions and they are from regions where the natural light schedule is 12 hr days. When seeds ripen they fall to the ground, sprout at 12/12, and it is what it is. Weed grows year round.

Indicas live in the north (hemps too) where the days get very long but the seeds are frozen still on the plant when early winter rolls in fast. Come spring the seeds thaw and sprout at about 12 hours a day but getting longer.

Then we come along and exploit the plant with nutrient indulgence and light manipulation to the point that letting it go back to 12 hour days for sexing is worthy of a discussion as to whether or not you are harming the plant.

The trick is keeping seedlings alive and healthy in a solo cup for 30 days.

Revegging is very different. The plant has activated death hormones and then we light manipulate it to change the plant back to presex mode. Even though the reveg won't change sex its still forced back into juvenile mode which stops death. Vegetative mode.

If you get 3 bladed leaves, and you will, feed the plant a heavy veg diet and raise humidity to 60. 3 blades (other than the duck-foot mutation) means the plant isn't eating properly. Most reveg's are done in flowering pots so you end up vegging a plant in flower soil. Feed it and give it veg teas and myco and the blades will increase.

Thanks Gee.
I hear you and respect your opinion.
But guess what? This isn't a Sativa. Tooo much going on, just let it happen naturally.
The 3 blades is from light schedule, not from eating properly because the shock of light schedule

 

[2Water]

Everyone has their tips, tricks, methods and quirks. Especially with something like growing cannabis. It can be done so many different ways. Most of the people that fail long term do so because they don’t stick to it. They jump from method to method, nutrient line to nutrient line but never spend any time fully learning any of it. Pick a method and stick to it until you’ve got it. You WILL get it. Every one of us has the ability to grow it just takes practice.

Thanks Keffka, I am with you on finding a method and sticking to it, but I like keeping long term plans or ideas in my back pocket as well. I appreciate the words, I have given myself a "5 year plan." Figured if I keep at it, in about 5 years or so I should be able to call myself a competent grower

 

[Gee64]

I did say light causes it.

"Revegging is very different. The plant has activated death hormones and then we light manipulate it to change the plant back to presex mode." -from my above post.

and once that happens the fastest way out is to feed it veg style. Then cut your clones. Don't use 3bladers lol they wont photosynthesize very well.

But starting seeds at 12/12 isnt light manipulation. They will be fine, nature does it all by herself. Starting seeds at 16/8 or 18/6 is actually the light manipulation, which is what made me chuckle.

Just don't go backwards in light. That won't cause revegging but it will cause childhood pregnancy.

 

[2Water]

What are you using for a growing style? Are you using synthetics or organics?

Hi @Gee64 I am using using organics, a mix of Down to Earth plus weekly feedings of diluted coconut water, rice water and raw organic honey diluted down. I did it on my last grow and seemed to work out well. For the DTE nutes, I use a combination of thier 333, rose & flower, and acid mixes for the base along with top dressing ever 3 to 4 weeks with thier Bio-Live mix

 

[Sparkey224]

I did say light causes it.

"Revegging is very different. The plant has activated death hormones and then we light manipulate it to change the plant back to presex mode." -from my above post.

and once that happens the fastest way out is to feed it veg style. Then cut your clones. Don't use 3bladers lol they wont photosynthesize very well.

But starting seeds at 12/12 isnt light manipulation. They will be fine, nature does it all by herself. Starting seeds at 16/8 or 18/6 is actually the light manipulation, which is what made me chuckle.

Just don't go backwards in light. That won't cause revegging but it will cause childhood pregnancy.

Thanks for the clarification Gee, my hats off to you. Makes perfect sense, I just wasted a lot of energy....

 

[Gee64]

Thanks for the clarification Gee, my hats off to you. Makes perfect sense, I just wasted a lot of energy....

Stoners....Sheesh!

 

[Keffka]

But starting seeds at 12/12 isnt light manipulation. They will be fine, nature does it all by herself. Starting seeds at 16/8 or 18/6 is actually the light manipulation, which is what made me chuckle.

This is what I was thinking. In nature, regardless of where you are, when cannabis sprouts, it’s nowhere close to 16-18 hour days of light and more realistically it’s closer to 10-12 in those early weeks especially. Splitting the difference still puts you closer to 12 hours of light/dark than anything. Here for instance your seedling would sprout with 10 hours sunlight. This would increase over summer then drop again come fall.. Using the 12/12 from sprout sort of mimics this, and we know how much I love to mimic nature lol.

 

[Keffka]

Thanks for the clarification Gee, my hats off to you. Makes perfect sense, I just wasted a lot of energy....

Yes and no.. your questions/assertions forced us to verbally flesh out the method more instead of just saying “start at 12/12 cuz we said it’s legit”

 

[Gee64]

Hi @Gee64 I am using using organics, a mix of Down to Earth plus weekly feedings of diluted coconut water, rice water and raw organic honey diluted down. I did it on my last grow and seemed to work out well. For the DTE nutes, I use a combination of thier 333, rose & flower, and acid mixes for the base along with top dressing ever 3 to 4 weeks with thier Bio-Live mix

Organics HoneyVery cool. I have often wondered about honey as a carbon source. How much do you use? Did you use it in veg too or just in flower?

 

[Keffka]

Organics HoneyVery cool. I have often wondered about honey as a carbon source. How much do you use? Did you use it in veg too or just in flower?

I imagine honey walks the same line as molasses. Good carb source, addictive sugar content.