2019/2020 Outdoor Grow Season

[MrX]

Dynasty Platinum Huckleberry Cookies x Archive Face Off OG - high hopes for this one, wonderful pine with a pungent tone in the terpines

 

[MrX]

Bodhi Sunshine Daydream x Bodhi Space Monkey - this homemade cross combining 2 of some of the best proven types from this breeder are looking like she may meet requirements, yield is there though its up to the smoke report now before she gets the green light, day 49 in flower

 

[Backlipslide]

 

[MrX]

this pollen chuck(homemade cross) (Cannaventure Pure Raspberry Kush x Mosca C99) x Cannarado Barney Rubble offers columns of joy, this cross is from 3-4yrs ago, she will herm if stressed but otherwise her assets make her a keeper

 

[MrX]

new pollen chuck (Cannaventure Pure Raspberry Kush x Mosca C99 x Cannarado Barney Rubble) x Bodhi Sunshine Daydream is an example of one that did not make the grade with a strong hermaphrodite tendency, no matter how good this 1 smokes her seed will become birdseed
there were no reason why this 1 hermed so out the door she goes

 

[MrX]

some badass shit right there - IHG Cactido(Cactus OG x Dosidos) x Cannarado Barney Rubble(FPOG x Orange Cookies) x Dynasty Platinum Huckleberry Cookies, very strong berry syrupy aroma, curing it out for a few wks before test smoke, the Platinum Huckleberry Cookies male were from old Dynasty stock 6-7yrs ago known to be the fire, got lucky with this pollen chuck

 

[weenmeoff]

Hi MrX! First off, welcome to the best 420 forum out there! So many great and helpful people on here! 2nd WOW

Found you over at @Icemud journal so I'm sure these guys would eventually find you but I'll tag them anyways, @Mr. Krip @TheGreenYeti @Morglie

I'm blown away and have so many questions and understand your need for privacy so no worries if you can't answer any of my questions. Props to you for doing all of this to make sure you and your family get the best meds possible! I personally will probably (Krip convinced me to say probably but it's still probable, ha!) never Chuck any pollen. I'll leave that to the pros and listen to the advice of others here when/if I ever buy any more seeds. You could probably take your Very best seeds from one of your chucks and that would be more seeds than I have in total or will be able to grow out in my lifetime even if I up the size of my grow.

Anyways, question, again answers not needed if you are not comfortable.

Just that list of chucks you did in 2019 is impressive! How many plants do you have going at anytime?

I'm so interested in the light dep thing, would love to use less electricity to grow! Any chance of photos of that set up? Ok if not. Can you explain it a little more? Is it automated or do you have to physically open and close it?

Do you toss the undesirable seeds? That pic of the many seeds you posted over at Ices is amazing. Are all of those keepers?

have found the quality of growth between fabric & hard plastic light yrs apart

Light years better for fabric?

im not really breeding, a 'Real' breeder will usually work a strain for years to come to the final result, im using only a small number of seeds & crossing them(pollen chucking) just throwing the dice in the hope of a nice gene combination, about 70% of the chucks are flops, about 1 chuck in 15 will be the '1', as good as anything anywhere you can find, & if its a decent size plant that was pollinated there will be a few thousand seeds to play around with

When you find keepers, do you work them for years? If so, doesn't that make you a breeder?

lol you have a better eye than i, i cannot tell by the sun, thanks very much, yes light deprivation with those cheapo ebay greenhouse frames without the clear plactic covers, just using opaque poly tarps as blackout curtains, its warm enough here to grow 10mths of the year, it starts with 1st wave planting seeds in late August & keeping them lit with 20hrs light using blackout covers at nite so neighbors do not see, then lifting the curtains before sunrise, then once plants are at correct height(approx 3'/1m the lights will be stopped then the curtains used in a 12/12 mode, a second wave is the planted outside approx 1st nov which will grow entirely in tune with natural lighting, then a 3rd wave is planted mid january, so with this lot lights will extend the daylight hrs to the 20hrs, then when plants are at correct height the lighting will cease & the natural time period is already @ 12/12 usually finishing early/mid june
*btw...are you a lady? sorry for asking but if i know there is a female present i will know to behave...as you can imagine when some of us guys get going the conversation can quickly deteriorate into a neanderthal mentality

Sounds amazing!

im lucky to live in a remote area with much bushland around with relatively few people, so i have any prospective males together in a group miles away from where i live and keep the girls together at home, when an proper male appears he is taken to another place miles away again to be with his harem of chosen girls, i have 4 different areas for these isolated matings to occur miles away from each other so cross pollination does not occur, so 4 different males are present, i usually leave them together for 10-14 days for a thorough pollination to happen, females are taken out to males approx 3wks after first showing sex because if females are pollinated early there will not be many seeds develop
its easier to choose females to breed with than males because their charms are more obvious than the male's, in males look for overall vigor, branch pattern, stem rubs between fingers to get an idea of its odour, in general a stronger smell usually indicates a stronger potency, also if you have a number of males of the same strain you can cut a few leaves from each of those males & smoke test them individually to test for which one is more potent, there can be large variation between male's potency
with choosing females again look for overall vigor, structure of plant, usually the females that finish earliest are not the most potent, so the mid to later term flower type females are usually the best, sacrifice your best male & females to breed with always, it will pay off
good luck with it there

No question. Just amazing! Sounds like you really know what you're doing and the pics you've posted are also amazing frost monsters.

 

[MrX]

Hi MrX! First off, welcome to the best 420 forum out there! So many great and helpful people on here! 2nd WOW

Found you over at @Icemud journal so I'm sure these guys would eventually find you but I'll tag them anyways, @Mr. Krip @TheGreenYeti @Morglie

I'm blown away and have so many questions and understand your need for privacy so no worries if you can't answer any of my questions. Props to you for doing all of this to make sure you and your family get the best meds possible! I personally will probably (Krip convinced me to say probably but it's still probable, ha!) never Chuck any pollen. I'll leave that to the pros and listen to the advice of others here when/if I ever buy any more seeds. You could probably take your Very best seeds from one of your chucks and that would be more seeds than I have in total or will be able to grow out in my lifetime even if I up the size of my grow.

Anyways, question, again answers not needed if you are not comfortable.

Just that list of chucks you did in 2019 is impressive! How many plants do you have going at anytime?

I'm so interested in the light dep thing, would love to use less electricity to grow! Any chance of photos of that set up? Ok if not. Can you explain it a little more? Is it automated or do you have to physically open and close it?

Do you toss the undesirable seeds? That pic of the many seeds you posted over at Ices is amazing. Are all of those keepers?



Light years better for fabric?



When you find keepers, do you work them for years? If so, doesn't that make you a breeder?




Sounds amazing!




No question. Just amazing! Sounds like you really know what you're doing and the pics you've posted are also amazing frost monsters.

thanks very much for your sentiment, flattered for sure! please feel free to ask anything cos pollen chucking can be done by anyone, its just a numbers game with no real skill needed, not every cross will be good, but every now & then 1 or 2 will be, yes just use the best types that are found through research that are proven types.

The list of seeds are what are the total of those chucks for 2019, just finished growing out 1/3rd of those so some testing will take place soon, it will take a few years to grow out all of those to test, guessing approx 70%-80% will not make the grade, & yes the types that do not make it are disposed of, life is to short to mess around with less than A grade gear, pollen chucks if there are enough different ones done at the same time can be as good as a planned breeding mission, in that it can take around 3-5 yrs to breed a good strain from scratch, and hats off to the breeders/growers who have the vision/determination to do that, though with a good pollen chuck using types already made by good breeders you may get lucky & end up with a great gene combination 'by chance', that good gene combination will be as good as anything available anywhere, with stable phenotype, potency, hermaphrodite resistance & female to male ratio etc.

Got lucky with my first 3 pollen chucks, 1 cross were a real standout & i think now after around 100 pollen chucks(different types in total) since then nothing has matched that early one as yet.

How many grown out a same time?...im sorry that's CLASSIFIED.

The light dep thing is used twice here in the outdoor season as there are '3 waves' of the grow here
1st wave are in late winter/early spring, so though its warm enough the light hrs are still short, so 5watt 12v lights are used, 2 in each frame approx 5m/15' in length, 3m/9' wide, to extend daylight hrs to 20hrs from 13hrs at that time, then when plants are at proper height the added light is removed & the blackout curtain are used to bring lighting back to 12/12, blackout curtains are moved manually once in evening & once in morning.

Second wave no added lighting are used, plants will be grown out in natural open conditions.

3rd wave begins with plants being raised toward the end of summer so with natural light in decline added light are used in frames until plants are proper height which is in time to meet with the natural daylight length of 12/12, then the added lighting are removed & covers are not used so plants are left to the natural decline in daylight hrs to flower.

The Fabric pots seem to produce much better plants compared to hard plactic here, it may be that with the fabric pots the roots are not burnt like what happens with plastic pots in the very hot conditions? whatever the reason there seems to be a much better outcome using good fabric pots here.

again a pollen chucker is not a real breeder, the chucker are relying more on luck that an exhaustive breeding regime, a chucker benifits by all the hard work done by the original breeder and are really just making a polyhybrid which any Chimp can do.

good luck with it all there!

*sorry i forgot to explain why '3 waves'
the 3 waves allow for an earlier than usual harvest, and a later than usual harvest compared to not using frames with lighting & blackout curtains, the middle or second wave is just a normal plantout & grow season without any artificial lighting or dark periods

 

[weenmeoff]

please feel free to ask anything cos pollen chucking can be done by anyone

Thanks but I probably won't ask. I can only grow a few plants at a time, usually 4 but I'm gonna bump it up to 8, so no room or interest in pollen chucking. I prefer to buy seeds and grow weed to be smoked.

Still, I'm amazed at what you and others are doing with this beautiful plant!

I could never do a manual light dep or grow in coco because I need to be able to leave for at least a few days even up to a week.

Do you open the cover at the precise time each day and does that lights on time remain the same year round?

 

[MrX]

Thanks but I probably won't ask. I can only grow a few plants at a time, usually 4 but I'm gonna bump it up to 8, so no room or interest in pollen chucking. I prefer to buy seeds and grow weed to be smoked.

Still, I'm amazed at what you and others are doing with this beautiful plant!

I could never do a manual light dep or grow in coco because I need to be able to leave for at least a few days even up to a week.

Do you open the cover at the precise time each day and does that lights on time remain the same year round?

its all good, everyone grows in their own method & if they are happy with the results then its all a person can ask for.

& yes an alarm goes off at 7am & 7pm for 12/12 & at other times when grow length are extended, at both times i go to cover or uncover the blackout curtain

 

[MrX]

Original Reservoir Seeds Sour Diesel x Chemdog then crossed to Romulan, then crossed again to Mosca C99.
adding the C99 to the mix has quietened down the loudness, AAA quality smoke, have some of the Sour Diesel x Chemdog x Romulan growing out now, they come in @ AAAA+
the stink levels of the ones growing out now bring with it an extra amount of paranoia as it can be smelt from hundreds of yrds/mtrs away...dems de brakes!

 

[Stunger]

Hi MrX, I am barely more than a beginner having done just handful of outdoor grows. My current crop I have quadlined in last year's re-amended home made super soil, they are looking happy so far, I am considering whether or not to add a Boost product like Canna Boost. Your buds are looking great, do you give them any late flowering nutes like the boost products or pk13/14 etc? Thanks in advance.

 

[MrX]

Hi MrX, I am barely more than a beginner having done just handful of outdoor grows. My current crop I have quadlined in last year's re-amended home made super soil, they are looking happy so far, I am considering whether or not to add a Boost product like Canna Boost. Your buds are looking great, do you give them any late flowering nutes like the boost products or pk13/14 etc? Thanks in advance.

hi & thanks, i tried the CannaBoost for a few years & at the end of it i just couldn't quantify or state that i saw a definite increase in yield? stuff is hell expensive too? seriously a dude i know only uses General Hydroponics Flora Micro & Flora Bloom for flower with a CalMag supplement but he has it dialed in really well as his buds are the fattest things i ever see, seems to not matter what strain, its always really good n chunky.
possibly the best is to keep it simple but dialed in for optimum results!
below are his instructions on how he does it

*sorry but im forgetting you are growing in soil & not Hydro/Coco...i honestly cannot offer info on whether CannaBoost will work in soil either, ive only ever used it in Coco

** & yes i use the Canna PK13-14 using the amount in the directions, thats it, all with standard A & B Coco Bloom nutes, again if you are growing in soil possibly those nutes are not needed?

 

[Stunger]

Thanks very much for sharing that, you obviously have got a highly productive and experienced routine down pat to be able to grow outside like you are doing. It is great you are kicking off these grows in the 'outback' and doing so successfully. Great stuff!

 

[MrX]

thanks Stunger, where are you situated?
* clicked on your link and see you are in NZ sorry

 

[Stunger]

thanks Stunger, where are you situated?
* clicked on your link and see you are in NZ sorry

Your plants and buds look amazing, as Weenmeoff described above, real nice 'frost monsters'. Awesome that you're clearly achieving a great balance in your grows to be getting such results. I'd love to have enough land to kick off a bunch of plants and experiment, but in the city the smell would be chancing it. Hopefully you're away from the bushfire zone with the hot current weather. Clean river water must be good.

 

[MrX]

Your plants and buds look amazing, as Weenmeoff described above, real nice 'frost monsters'. Awesome that you're clearly achieving a great balance in your grows to be getting such results. I'd love to have enough land to kick off a bunch of plants and experiment, but in the city the smell would be chancing it. Hopefully you're away from the bushfire zone with the hot current weather. Clean river water must be good.

thanks Stunger, appreciate your sentiment, yes im a long way away from those fires, been here over 25yrs and never seen a fire, some say the bush here is too sparse for a fire to grow...some say a fire could go through here? hope i do not find out, how's the weather in NZ, you guys normally get plenty of rain?

 

[GHempster]

Some of those chucks look amazing. And what also amazes me is that it is so common that you hear pollen chuckers say "oh I'm not a real breeder" but really you are brother.

If not for chuckers we would not have the great cannabis we have today. And would have lost some great viritals.

Chuck on my brother chuck on.

I just wish I could sample some of your hard work.

 

[Stunger]

thanks Stunger, appreciate your sentiment, yes im a long way away from those fires, been here over 25yrs and never seen a fire, some say the bush here is too sparse for a fire to grow...some say a fire could go through here? hope i do not find out, how's the weather in NZ, you guys normally get plenty of rain?

We have been getting some rain, sunny days close to the mid 20's C, but fairly dry with a bit of wind, I have felt that cannabis perhaps gets more sticky with wind, it getting dry tho, the lawn grass has died off a lot. But I think that is good, just as long as we don't get long days of rain, I don't want bud rot.

 

[MrX]

Some of those chucks look amazing. And what also amazes me is that it is so common that you hear pollen chuckers say "oh I'm not a real breeder" but really you are brother.

If not for chuckers we would not have the great cannabis we have today. And would have lost some great viritals.

Chuck on my brother chuck on.

I just wish I could sample some of your hard work.

cheers man, really appreciate that, though again, the real breeders nut out the complex genetic landscape as shown in Robert Connell Clarke's Marijuana Botany etc, im maybe too lazy/dumbass to bother with it all and just cross already proven good types & hope for the best lol