1st Grow In Coco: 70% With 30% Perlite

DeeBoy said:
Okay, I can see that. I think it comes from everyone saying the 1st rookie mistake is over watering... So maybe I've gone in the wrong direction.
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You literally can't over water in Coco... That doesn't mean plants need to be water several times a day. I get it... If you have irrigation why not. If you water by hand why would you... Because you have small pots thats why and plant is drinking it up as fast as you can put it in.
 
Indeed my friend and when people get more experienced i would say develop your own way.At this point the op
just wants some solid info on how to get back on track not something read online.
Plant Daddy said:
Like I said they're are a lot of ways to get there.
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bluter said:
your are confusing a soil grow with coco.
plus you did get some shit advice earlier from a strong personality.
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Okay, tonight I will give just ph water and tomorrow start a better feeding and watering schedule. Once I find a nice similar journal on here somewhere...
 
skunksa said:
Indeed my friend and when people get more experienced i would say develop your own way.At this point the op
just wants some solid info on how to get back on track not something read online.
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i never try break new ground with a new media. i always follow. if i hadn't known a grower in the late 70's i never would have been able to learn. there was no internet, i just did what they taught me and mimicked til i figured it out.
 
Coco doesn't hold excess water so you could have a hose running through it and it wouldn't matter
Whatever, do not let coco dry out completely or it will turn to straw
I say flush through with pH'd water to reset the coco and wash out any build up of salts
Then a soaking with CaMg (+Zyme if you've got it) helps move any residue around the root zone
Resume normal feeding @5.8 and the green vigour will return overnight
*edit* I see you've got the gist of what we're saying :cool:
 
Growings said:
Coco doesn't hold excess water so you could have a hose running through it and it wouldn't matter
Whatever, do not let coco dry out completely or it will turn to straw
I say flush through with pH'd water to reset the coco and wash out any build up of salts
Then a soaking with CaMg (+Zyme if you've got it) helps move any residue around the root zone
Resume normal feeding @5.8 and the green vigour will return overnight
*edit* I see you've got the gist of what we're saying :cool:
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Excellent. I think I have a plan. I appreciate the input!
 
Growings said:
Resume normal feeding @5.8 and the green vigour will return overnight
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the issue is there hasn't been normal feeding from day one.
that is the component that needs to be learned.
 
bluter said:
the issue is there hasn't been normal feeding from day one.
that is the component that needs to be learned.
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Agreed
I trained as a master carpenter and the old guy always drilled two things into me (no, that wasn't one of them)
Think twice, cut once
It's not about not making mistakes, it's knowing how to correct them
Peace Dude, it's way past 4:20 :smokin2:
 
hard to laugh and love the post at the same time ... :p
 
DeeBoy said:
Okay, tonight I will give just ph water and tomorrow start a better feeding and watering schedule. Once I find a nice similar journal on here somewhere...
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Hello @DeeBoy hope you are well today.
Sorry I'm late to the discussion.
I'll just set down a few guidelines to follow in coco.
First ph to exactly 5.8 every time, probably one of the reasons she isn't eating properly.
Water every day with nutrients, twice a day in flower if possible but every day.
At this stage you should not be using the gh grow. No more nitrogen period.
I know there is a tiny bit in the micro but thats fine.
When you mix your batch put calmag in first. Helps wit uptake of the rest of the nutrients. Calmag in every feed.
At peak mid flower don't go over 800 ppm's.
Once your past midflower start to bring your ppms down to 200 by last feed before lights out.
Make sure when you water you get run off 10% is good but get some run off every time.
Make sure they don't sit in any standing runoff. Girls don't like wet feet.
You can run ph,d water through once to clear excess salts, common with synthetic nutrients.
But then right back to feeding.
Hope this helps with some of the confusion.
Let me know if you have any other questions.
Happy growing.
Bill
 
dammit why i no think to call you ... :rolleyes:

listen to bill
 
Bill284 said:
Hello @DeeBoy hope you are well today.
Sorry I'm late to the discussion.
I'll just set down a few guidelines to follow in coco.
First ph to exactly 5.8 every time, probably one of the reasons she isn't eating properly.
Water every day with nutrients, twice a day in flower if possible but every day.
At this stage you should not be using the gh grow. No more nitrogen period.
I know there is a tiny bit in the micro but thats fine.
When you mix your batch put calmag in first. Helps wit uptake of the rest of the nutrients. Calmag in every feed.
At peak mid flower don't go over 800 ppm's.
Once your past midflower start to bring your ppms down to 200 by last feed before lights out.
Make sure when you water you get run off 10% is good but get some run off every time.
Make sure they don't sit in any standing runoff. Girls don't like wet feet.
You can run ph,d water through once to clear excess salts, common with synthetic nutrients.
But then right back to feeding.
Hope this helps with some of the confusion.
Let me know if you have any other questions.
Happy growing.
Bill
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Thank you very much! That's what I need. I'll flush tonight. What strength nutes would be optimal at this point? I keep getting different opinions.....
 
DeeBoy said:
Thank you very much! That's what I need. I'll flush tonight. What strength nutes would be optimal at this point? I keep getting different opinions.....
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Sorry I can't remember what week your on.
G.H. has a high strength, probably one of the few nutrients i don't recommend using the feed schedule.
Say week 5 I feed 700 to 800 ppm all strain dependent. Some higher some lower depending on needs of that strain.
I'd say your max could be 800 week five.
Drop your ppms by 100 every week after that. Just to make this all a little easier for you at this point.
What you want to do is put in calmag then your micro next followed by your bloom. ( as per the schedule)
Then take a reading of the ppms.
So its going to be too high at that point.
All you need to do is add water to the mix, a little at a time.
Taking readings every time you add water.
The ppm will start to drop at that point.
Gradually add water until your mixture is the desired ppm.
That way you won't be doing math trying to get it in range.
Simple and effective.
At that point check your ph.
And adjust as necessary.
Setting the ph will be the last procedure before feeding.
Salts will drop from your left over mix so any left over can be used but must be checked again before feeding.
Ph Will probably rise so a little dudillagence here will help stretch you nutrients.
For your next run I've got a couple things I use that will help immensely.
But one thing at a time.
Coco is in my opinion the easiest media to grow in.
Virtually no guess work.
Follow these simple guidelines Ive layed out and you will be happy with your results.
I'm always around for any assistance I can provide.
I'm looking forward to good results from you my friend. :cheer:
Keep up the good work.
Bill
 
yellowing of all the leaf over time is the leaf being used to feed similar to flushing ,slow drying but the scabby bits of damage could indicate calmag issues too. In coco/led ,supplementary addition of calmag is the standard especially in flowering . Over feeding tends to make the leaves claw or twist, the tip burn yellow is something else so not at play here. Looks like they are withdrawing/depleting chlorophyll that I only see with hunger. Light burn looks very different with a definate bleaching effect
 
Bill284 said:
Sorry I can't remember what week your on.
G.H. has a high strength, probably one of the few nutrients i don't recommend using the feed schedule.
Say week 5 I feed 700 to 800 ppm all strain dependent. Some higher some lower depending on needs of that strain.
I'd say your max could be 800 week five.
Drop your ppms by 100 every week after that. Just to make this all a little easier for you at this point.
What you want to do is put in calmag then your micro next followed by your bloom. ( as per the schedule)
Then take a reading of the ppms.
So its going to be too high at that point.
All you need to do is add water to the mix, a little at a time.
Taking readings every time you add water.
The ppm will start to drop at that point.
Gradually add water until your mixture is the desired ppm.
That way you won't be doing math trying to get it in range.
Simple and effective.
At that point check your ph.
And adjust as necessary.
Setting the ph will be the last procedure before feeding.
Salts will drop from your left over mix so any left over can be used but must be checked again before feeding.
Ph Will probably rise so a little dudillagence here will help stretch you nutrients.
For your next run I've got a couple things I use that will help immensely.
But one thing at a time.
Coco is in my opinion the easiest media to grow in.
Virtually no guess work.
Follow these simple guidelines Ive layed out and you will be happy with your results.
I'm always around for any assistance I can provide.
I'm looking forward to good results from you my friend. :cheer:
Keep up the good work.
Bill
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Thank you sir! Much appreciated!
 
Nunyabiz said:
Full strength every day would fry them
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I use Megacrop and Bud Explosion sorry I didn't mention that earlier and have never had a problem at full strength and more at times! Also in coco/perlite.
Feed twice a day once out of seedling stage in 7 gallon geopots from the start.
Oh and Ph @ 5.8...very important ( Learn what gets you that number and do it all the time to make it easier).
Good air circulation...lights..don't fuss to much ( topped once). Defoliation ( anything unnecessary)
Good Genetics of course.
Amazing results /shrug.
K (keep) I (it) S (simple) S (stupid) works for me lol ;)
 
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