1st Grow: Blue Dream

[Mr. Magoo]

Gotta use what ever works for you. I try to look at it from the 12 plants I can grow. I have 365 days of possible production from 12 plants. Veg has to be a part of the equation for me as I can only flower a max of 6 at a time. Now space plays a big part of peoples growing style and its the main reason for my perpetual and the way I try to run it. I want to know what I am producing per day per plant, including the veg time. Allows me to track what I am producing vs what our medicinal needs are. I can tell you that with my 12 slots, we are averaging 18 grams per day (1.5 Grams per plant x 12) of production. I need to produce about 8+ grams a day to meet our current flower, oil, and topical requirements. Everything else is stuff I can give to others or experiment with cobs or other things.

It also allows me to track those same numbers when I make changes to a batch of soil and I can balance any changes in production (positive or negative) vs an improvement/drop in potency or smoothness or flavor and figure if it was worth while or not.

My measurement is more of one that measure my ability to manage all the factors than any single component of it. What can I do with what I have and how can I make it better. Over time I will my sweet spot with the soil, the rain water, my environment and my growing skillz (manipulation of all those things).

I can see how Including veg time also makes that part of the equation adjustable. For photoperiod anyway. You probably find yourself asking yourself, is it worth it to veg a couple more weeks or do we flip and get something else in the veg tent.

 

[Van Stank]

Its a balancing act for sure.....Sometimes I have to veg plants longer than I want cause the flower tent is full (not necessarily due to plant count but due to size issues). Right now the size of my flower tent is my constraint. A lot of times, I run my plants longer in smaller pots than I would if I didn't have space issues. I kept the Hawaiian, the Meltdown, and the Black Cherry Punch in veg for a month longer than I would have liked because of the space issues.

Hopefully moving the flower into the 10'x10' will no longer limit me on timing and I can run the perpetual the way I originally planned. Then I can veg in the 4x4, run the seedlings and clones in the 2x2, and do all the breeding in the 2'x4'. Gives me the flexibility to run the plants the way I want to instead of them running me the way that want.

 

[flashmp3]

I am a big time metric person as well so I want to say this. Make sure you know what you want to measure and why.

Grams per watt is one measurement but what I don't like about it is that it doesn't include time. For instance, I can veg 4 plants for 3 months and harvest it, get 800 grams out of 600 watts and have a nice average of 1.33 grams per watt. Great right? How does that compare against a crop grown and vegged for 50 days instead of 90 and yields 600 grams. That one is only 1 gram per watt. Time has to be a factor.

The issue with measurement people is that they need to ensure they are measuring the right thing. Show me how I am measured and I will show you how I perform. If I am measuring Grams per Watt, what stops you from vegging incredibly long periods for larger plants, specifically to measure well on your metrix. The reality is that Grams per Watt doesn't paint the whole picture. I used to measure Grams per Watt, actually still do.....but I do it in conjunction with other metrix over time.

I stole Grams per day from Graytail. Gives me an indicator of the performance of the plant. My highest yielder was a Northern Lights that I vegged for 70 days and flowered for 65 and came in over 3 grams per day. Most of my other plants are closer to the 1.4-1.6 grams per day. I also like to track grams per gallon of soil as well.....kind of gives me an idea of what size pot used in conjunction with how long I let them go, gives me the best yield over that said time.

For me, efficiency is how well I use my space and time to produce the most of the best produce I can. Its not just about grams per watt. Its a combo of grams per watt and grams per day and grams per gallon. I figure over a couple years, I will know what strains grow best in what size pot, for what amount of time.....FOR MY setup. Each person's will be different based on their individual growing environments (RH, temps, lights, medium, etc). What works for me, won't work for everyone.

Wonderfuly said!

 

[Mr. Magoo]

Its a balancing act for sure.....Sometimes I have to veg plants longer than I want cause the flower tent is full (not necessarily due to plant count but due to size issues). Right now the size of my flower tent is my constraint. A lot of times, I run my plants longer in smaller pots than I would if I didn't have space issues. I kept the Hawaiian, the Meltdown, and the Black Cherry Punch in veg for a month longer than I would have liked because of the space issues.

Hopefully moving the flower into the 10'x10' will no longer limit me on timing and I can run the perpetual the way I originally planned. Then I can veg in the 4x4, run the seedlings and clones in the 2x2, and do all the breeding in the 2'x4'. Gives me the flexibility to run the plants the way I want to instead of them running me the way that want.

Sounds like an awesome setup Van. I’m jealous. Lol

 

[newty]

Nice haul on that first grow!

That was your first grow?? Daaaang you should be really proud

 

[Mr. Magoo]

Nice haul on that first grow!

That was your first grow?? Daaaang you should be really proud

Thanks newty! Yes my first grow beyond planting some seeds out in the wilderness and going back at harvest time to find almost nothing. Lol.

 

[newty]

My first #skinnybitches grow was 3 plants yielding about an oz

your ahead of the game!

 

[Kismet]

Van Stank and all his measurements and math skills makes my head hurt. I have trouble making myself even tally a final dry weight.

 

[Mr. Magoo]

Van Stank and all his measurements and math skills makes my head hurt. I have trouble making myself even tally a final dry weight.

Haha. Truth! I envy it though and know I’ll end up the same way! I’m a math and numbers guy. Right now I mainly use it to play poker though. Lol. I love running into my old math teachers and letting them know how I use what they taught me. Haha.

 

[newty]

Hahaha I have been out of high school for 20+ years and I have never run into an old math teacher

I move around a lot so that makes sense but still made me giggle. I would tell him that I learned nothing and he should have mad math more fun

 

[InTheShed]

Congrats to 420magazine's September Member of the Month!!!!!

 

[Mr. Magoo]

Thanks so much Shed! I’m shocked really. That was a close one!

 

[MrSauga]

Thanks so much Shed! I’m shocked really. That was a close one!

It was friggin awesome...I love a good hockey game when the score is so close...but really I came in here to see your Avatar with it's new title attached below...looks real purdy Magoo...congrats and well done bro!

 

[Mr. Magoo]

It was friggin awesome...I love a good hockey game when the score is so close...but really I came in here to see your Avatar with it's new title attached below...looks real purdy Magoo...congrats and well done bro!

As does yours my friend! Congratulations!

 

[Wookie0586]

Grats MrMagoo! Well deserved!

 

[Mr. Magoo]

Grats MrMagoo! Well deserved!

Thanks Wookie!

 

[flashmp3]

Yeah my friend well deserved! Congrats and thank you for your constant support on this forum. I have been able to learn so much here and you played a major role on this!

 

[Mr. Magoo]

Yeah my friend well deserved! Congrats and thank you for your constant support on this forum. I have been able to learn so much here and you played a major role on this!

That is definitely mutual, buddy!

 

[dynamo1]

Congratulations Magoo

 

[Mr. Magoo]

Congratulations Magoo

Thanks buddy!