Yep I concur
1st Grow: Blue Dream
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I know you didn't ask me Mr Magoo....but if you were flipping that soon, I would give it a good defoliation before you do it. Just my .02
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Well your 2 cents is worth a lot around here Stanks! Lol. I had just called them out because the training and defoil I’m using is modeled after the one they use. And honestly I have no idea if it’s time to flip yet or not. Probably gonna make that call in about a week after getting some input from all of y’all!
When I saw the last pictures I also thought It should need a lil bit of defoliation. But then it makes me wondering why. Cause your plant look damn healthy so why touching anything? Then I came to realize that maybe I was influenced by two things :
- my unconscious desire to see bud sites clearer
- all the pictures of mainlining I ve seen so far when it was always defoliated a lot
So after thinking well of it if I were you, I'd take the safest option and do what @Bilbobudkin420 advices with the tidying up. This just to keep everything optimized for light penetration.
Anyway you're the one who know what it best and so far you ve been doing amazing!
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I appreciate the words of affirmation, Flash! I did the defoil. The girls were pretty dry. They needed water last night but there was company over so I couldn’t get to them. They were looking pretty droopy. I watered them following defoil with nutes. Hope it’s not all too much at once....dry, defoil, nutes with less fan leaves to hold them. Guess we will see! Here are a couple pics immediately following the butchering!When I saw the last pictures I also thought It should need a lil bit of defoliation. But then it makes me wondering why. Cause your plant looks damn healthy so why touching anything? Then I came to realize that maybe I was influenced by two things :
- my unconscious desire to see bud sites clearer
- all the pictures of mainlining I ve seen so far when it was always defoliated a lot
So after thinking well of it if I were you, I'd take the safest option and do what @Bilbobudkin420 advices with the tidying up. This just the keep everything optimized for light penetration.
Anyway you're the one who know what it best and so far you ve been doing amazing!
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I’ll post a couple more in the morning just to see how much of an overnight bounce back they have.
I think you did a good job! Regarding the lack of water they may have suffered, it will make them stronger and surely forced them to push more roots to access moisture so at the end it will be a good thing that you couldn't access them at that time. We always want to improve stuffs and make the best, but sometimes we have to let things happen! What I love about cannabis plant the most is how a bit of stress during veg can be a reward later in flowering
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Totally agree! I’m sure tomorrow morning they will look good again. We will see I suppose!
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Veg day 38
RH 35-50
Temp 68-79 F
The girls bounced back quite a bit overnight. Still a little droopy around the edges but better. Took a few more leaves this morning that we’re covering up some bud spots. They still aren’t going vertical very quickly. Maybe more light to the light green areas will help.
Last nights feeding was calmag, plus 1/2 strength of Big Bloom, and Grow Big, and full strength of Boomerang, Kangaroots and Open Sesame. Forgot to ph down the cocktail. So may see sights of ph fluctuation. We’ll see.
Questions
I’ve been running on just the veg lighting. Would it hurt anything to turn on both switches?
Also, thinking of moving the light down a bit. What effects would this have on the growth. Light is about 24” above top of plant right now.
Here’s a few pics this morning!
RH 35-50
Temp 68-79 F
The girls bounced back quite a bit overnight. Still a little droopy around the edges but better. Took a few more leaves this morning that we’re covering up some bud spots. They still aren’t going vertical very quickly. Maybe more light to the light green areas will help.
Last nights feeding was calmag, plus 1/2 strength of Big Bloom, and Grow Big, and full strength of Boomerang, Kangaroots and Open Sesame. Forgot to ph down the cocktail. So may see sights of ph fluctuation. We’ll see.
Questions
I’ve been running on just the veg lighting. Would it hurt anything to turn on both switches?
Also, thinking of moving the light down a bit. What effects would this have on the growth. Light is about 24” above top of plant right now.
Here’s a few pics this morning!
JustMeds
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Turning on a bloom mode in the light may give it a little more height. That plant is looking really good right now. When you planning to flip again? If you do turn it on I would leave it where it is for a few days and see how she reacts to the new light spectrum, then go from there.
Agree all said!
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July 7th will be 6 weeks. I hope with everyone’s help we can decide if it’s time to flip then or if it needs to wait a bit longer. And very good point about leaving the light location the same if I change the spectrum. Don’t want to change too many variables at once. Thanks guys!
Also try to think again about the explanations and pictures I has posted about stretch. It will help you measure roughly how much you can let them grow before flip
800W-GROWER
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AGREE. WONT HARM IT AT ALL.
Sorry I didn't respond Magoo! I was out of town this weekend and wasn't on the forums either. Needed a little vacation.
Anyways, I think you are doing everything right so far. These won't get very tall with this training method. The idea is to keep them low and even, not tall like most plants you will see. I've quadlined a couple and they ended up tall but I think those were more rare as that seems to be more like 1 in every 8 plants I do it with. I'd also leave the lights at 24". You can manipulate the height of the lights to effect how much a plant grows vertically but 24" is really the sweet spot. Maybe after stretch is over I'd drop them more to 18" and just see how the plants react but that is still a few weeks away for you.
The defoliation looked pretty good. I would use both the grow and bloom switch for sure now. Get the plants used to it a bit and you can gauge what the temp and humidity will be with them at full power. The other thing I read about you getting nervous because you are taking off the leaves and there will be less nutes to store in the plant. Well, when you have really healthy plants you shouldn't worry about that as much. That means what you are giving them is exactly what they need and the leaves are almost like a safety barrier. If your plants are always healthy though it won't hurt a thing, and yours have been the whole way.
I've found the ideal veg time for me is between 6-7 weeks. With the way yours look I bet you'll fall somewhere in that range as well, likely about a week to 10 days from today. At this point you should probably just let them grow vertically and see where they are in about a week. If the 4 main shoots are too tall you can always pull them a bit more horizontal to keep it even but they will kind of start slowing down a bit while the middle stuff explodes so it all should end up pretty even right before flip.
I'm not saying anything new really that anyone else here has said. It's nice that other people have learned the quadlining ways and can help when I'm not around. It makes me really happy that my methods can be passed on and that people are answering question almost 100% verbatim to what I would've said. Maybe this quadlining thing will stick around for a bit
. Either way you are doing a great job and I hope you are enjoying yourself because this has been really fun to watch.
Anyways, I think you are doing everything right so far. These won't get very tall with this training method. The idea is to keep them low and even, not tall like most plants you will see. I've quadlined a couple and they ended up tall but I think those were more rare as that seems to be more like 1 in every 8 plants I do it with. I'd also leave the lights at 24". You can manipulate the height of the lights to effect how much a plant grows vertically but 24" is really the sweet spot. Maybe after stretch is over I'd drop them more to 18" and just see how the plants react but that is still a few weeks away for you.
The defoliation looked pretty good. I would use both the grow and bloom switch for sure now. Get the plants used to it a bit and you can gauge what the temp and humidity will be with them at full power. The other thing I read about you getting nervous because you are taking off the leaves and there will be less nutes to store in the plant. Well, when you have really healthy plants you shouldn't worry about that as much. That means what you are giving them is exactly what they need and the leaves are almost like a safety barrier. If your plants are always healthy though it won't hurt a thing, and yours have been the whole way.
I've found the ideal veg time for me is between 6-7 weeks. With the way yours look I bet you'll fall somewhere in that range as well, likely about a week to 10 days from today. At this point you should probably just let them grow vertically and see where they are in about a week. If the 4 main shoots are too tall you can always pull them a bit more horizontal to keep it even but they will kind of start slowing down a bit while the middle stuff explodes so it all should end up pretty even right before flip.
I'm not saying anything new really that anyone else here has said. It's nice that other people have learned the quadlining ways and can help when I'm not around. It makes me really happy that my methods can be passed on and that people are answering question almost 100% verbatim to what I would've said. Maybe this quadlining thing will stick around for a bit
. Either way you are doing a great job and I hope you are enjoying yourself because this has been really fun to watch.
Sorry I didn't respond Magoo! I was out of town this weekend and wasn't on the forums either. Needed a little vacation.
Anyways, I think you are doing everything right so far. These won't get very tall with this training method. The idea is to keep them low and even, not tall like most plants you will see. I've quadlined a couple and they ended up tall but I think those were more rare as that seems to be more like 1 in every 8 plants I do it with. I'd also leave the lights at 24". You can manipulate the height of the lights to effect how much a plant grows vertically but 24" is really the sweet spot. Maybe after stretch is over I'd drop them more to 18" and just see how the plants react but that is still a few weeks away for you.
The defoliation looked pretty good. I would use both the grow and bloom switch for sure now. Get the plants used to it a bit and you can gauge what the temp and humidity will be with them at full power. The other thing I read about you getting nervous because you are taking off the leaves and there will be less nutes to store in the plant. Well, when you have really healthy plants you shouldn't worry about that as much. That means what you are giving them is exactly what they need and the leaves are almost like a safety barrier. If your plants are always healthy though it won't hurt a thing, and yours have been the whole way.
I've found the ideal veg time for me is between 6-7 weeks. With the way yours look I bet you'll fall somewhere in that range as well, likely about a week to 10 days from today. At this point you should probably just let them grow vertically and see where they are in about a week. If the 4 main shoots are too tall you can always pull them a bit more horizontal to keep it even but they will kind of start slowing down a bit while the middle stuff explodes so it all should end up pretty even right before flip.
I'm not saying anything new really that anyone else here has said. It's nice that other people have learned the quadlining ways and can help when I'm not around. It makes me really happy that my methods can be passed on and that people are answering question almost 100% verbatim to what I would've said. Maybe this quadlining thing will stick around for a bit
Wonderful
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Thanks for catching up brother! I could so use a vacation right now! It’s 10 degrees cooler at the beaches in Florida right now. Lol. I need that in my life! Anyway...hope you are doing well!Sorry I didn't respond Magoo! I was out of town this weekend and wasn't on the forums either. Needed a little vacation.
Anyways, I think you are doing everything right so far. These won't get very tall with this training method. The idea is to keep them low and even, not tall like most plants you will see. I've quadlined a couple and they ended up tall but I think those were more rare as that seems to be more like 1 in every 8 plants I do it with. I'd also leave the lights at 24". You can manipulate the height of the lights to effect how much a plant grows vertically but 24" is really the sweet spot. Maybe after stretch is over I'd drop them more to 18" and just see how the plants react but that is still a few weeks away for you.
The defoliation looked pretty good. I would use both the grow and bloom switch for sure now. Get the plants used to it a bit and you can gauge what the temp and humidity will be with them at full power. The other thing I read about you getting nervous because you are taking off the leaves and there will be less nutes to store in the plant. Well, when you have really healthy plants you shouldn't worry about that as much. That means what you are giving them is exactly what they need and the leaves are almost like a safety barrier. If your plants are always healthy though it won't hurt a thing, and yours have been the whole way.
I've found the ideal veg time for me is between 6-7 weeks. With the way yours look I bet you'll fall somewhere in that range as well, likely about a week to 10 days from today. At this point you should probably just let them grow vertically and see where they are in about a week. If the 4 main shoots are too tall you can always pull them a bit more horizontal to keep it even but they will kind of start slowing down a bit while the middle stuff explodes so it all should end up pretty even right before flip.
I'm not saying anything new really that anyone else here has said. It's nice that other people have learned the quadlining ways and can help when I'm not around. It makes me really happy that my methods can be passed on and that people are answering question almost 100% verbatim to what I would've said. Maybe this quadlining thing will stick around for a bit
JustMeds
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Now I have to go find this, not sure if I have seen it.
