1st Grow - Alaskan Thunderfuck x4 - Durban Poison - Blue Kush & Blueberry In Kindsoil

[Pennywise]

Re: 1st Grow - Alaskan Thunderfuck x4 - Durban Poison - Blue Kush & Blueberry In Kind

Looking good in the Stank garden!

 

[Guy Cavallero]

Re: 1st Grow - Alaskan Thunderfuck x4 - Durban Poison - Blue Kush & Blueberry In Kind

Yes, I shared your recipe back on page 106 of the computer version of the journal.

Ms Stank doesn't really chat a lot, she is more of the quiet type....but don't worry about being 'respectful' with her or in here. We are both politically incorrect and enjoy crude humor and she has a dirtier mind than most of the Marines that served with me. Its hard to bother either one of us so feel free to be your normal self. In other words, don't behave on our account. Be yourself and enjoy it here, those are our only requests.

I am mixing up my 2nd batch of oil with the MBM2. Last night I made some ATF oil with all my ATF trim and about 8 grams of decarbed (from the Nova) ATF buds....mixed with coconut oil and lecithin and cooked at 190 degrees for 8 hours. Tonight I am doing ATF trim and 7 grams of non-decarbed bud (experimenting) in olive oil, being cooked at 160 degrees for 8 hours.

Trying to find my dosage on last nights oil, but not sure I am there yet. I took 1/4 teaspoon at 10pm, didn't feel much at 11pm so I took another 1/4 teaspoon and see how I am doing at bedtime (normally around 1am). If I haven't found the relief I am looking for after my Physical therapy today, I will smoke a hit or two of blueberry and go to sleep. Definitely excited to play around with the oils.

Definitely interested in our new machine lmao. I have read about them on here, and I'd be very interested to hear how you come up with dosing etc for your back with the ATF oil. In my opinion, for oils it is a must have......

 

[Guy Cavallero]

Re: 1st Grow - Alaskan Thunderfuck x4 - Durban Poison - Blue Kush & Blueberry In Kind

Wow thanks for the reply, I sincerely appreciate that.

I like to be myself, but some women see me as a woman first and grower second. So I like to knock on the door cause you never know who's gonna be answering. hahaha

I agree, women are waaaay more crude, like we go for the jugular when it comes that shiz. We don't hold back.

My recipe calls for 160F for 8 hours. But if you want to experiment by all means. Just for safety...I just talked to someone who blew open their machine by setting it at 220F for 8 hours. So, yah, it can get all oily in your house quick. You guys may like that kinda thing...lol. So the longer the hours the lower the heat and vice versa.

Something I haven't experimented with is using more Lecithin. It brings out the potential of your herb even more. Without Lecithin, you won't get all the magic it can provide. So that may help if you're using a smaller amount, but it will get thicker and that might be something you want to try. It's all good for the brain anyways.

If you are ever experimenting with potency; your bud should be decarbed so you can convert THCA to THC. But you will still get a valuable oil with THCA with your oil. It's just not gonna be maximum THC, and that's okay too. just fyi stuff

If you have anymore feedback, I'm all ears. Pros & Cons - not PROstitutes or CONvicts...hahahaha okay back on topic.

Thanks for using my recipe, it helps with my confidence to continue my mission. gniiiite

So G2HM, for the decarb. I'll only be doing CBD oils at first for my girlfriend. Does the weed need to go through decarb with CBD rich plants? I know it's likely that most of the plants were growing have low levels of THC, but for those that don't.. ...Im wondering if their is any benefit? The plants that I'm presently growing are specifically for the oil, and I do have trim left over from my previous grows that would have had THC trichomes on it. I will be adding those to the mix to help with opening up this CBD receptors but I'm wondering about the lot of CBD itself....ideas?

 

[Van Stank]

Re: 1st Grow - Alaskan Thunderfuck x4 - Durban Poison - Blue Kush & Blueberry In Kind

Looking good in the Stank garden!

Thanks brother. Its easy to have a good looking garden if you have good soil and leave the plants be. Thats the good thing about being in a SCROG, I can't mess with them and screw anything up LOL.

Definitely interested in our new machine lmao. I have read about them on here, and I'd be very interested to hear how you come up with dosing etc for your back with the ATF oil. In my opinion, for oils it is a must have......

Well in terms of simplicity, its hard to beat the Magic Butter Machine 2. Pour in oil, pour in lecithin, add your decarbed trim/bud, select the temp you want and then select the time and come back when you year it beeping after your time is done.

Now I have had two batches I made and two massively different results. I had a feeling something wasn't right after the first batch (wish I would have taken pics) but I don't think the blade on the mixer was working correctly or I had too much bud and trim in it. Anyways the first batch of oil and leftover trim looked NOTHING like the mush left over from the 2nd batch. The 2nd batch was what I expected stuff to look like when the process is done. I don't know what caused the mishap, but I will fix it. I am going to rerun that same coconut oil I ran through on the 1st batch, with another batch of decarbed bud and see what it looks like when done. If anything it will increase the potency which is what I want. Not that I want my dose to be more powerful, but for the fact I want to take smaller doses and make the batch last longer. Trial and error, but I will get things worked out.

So G2HM, for the decarb. I'll only be doing CBD oils at first for my girlfriend. Does the weed need to go through decarb with CBD rich plants? I know it's likely that most of the plants were growing have low levels of THC, but for those that don't.. ...Im wondering if their is any benefit? The plants that I'm presently growing are specifically for the oil, and I do have trim left over from my previous grows that would have had THC trichomes on it. I will be adding those to the mix to help with opening up this CBD receptors but I'm wondering about the lot of CBD itself....ideas?

I believe you still have to decarb the buds and trim for the CBD as well Guy. I am not 100% but I am pretty sure I remember reading that part as it relates to both THC and CBD, but I will defer to G2HM or an oil expert. Also I have read in several places that you really need both the THC and CBD for the best overall pain relief. I have to say I would probably agree with that based off of the experiences I have had with CBD Oil (20:1) ratio. What I mean is I got relief but not full relief and no where near the relief from smoking. So for me and my back pain, I think I need the THC in the mix. I would imagine different pains have different requirements.

My plan moving forward is experimenting more with those ratios and strain mixing. I have some ACDC seeds (which the grower lists the THC can be as low as .5% and the CBD can be as high as 20% for a 40:1 CBD to THC ratio) so I am looking forward to making oil where I take equal amount ATF Buds and equal amount ACDC bud and see how the two do together. I am also wanting to compare mixing two strains against a strain that is naturally in the 1:1 to 2:1 CBD to THC range.

 

[Chris Scorpio]

Re: 1st Grow - Alaskan Thunderfuck x4 - Durban Poison - Blue Kush & Blueberry In Kind

Great read Van...I'll toss in my $1.38 views

Yes CBD must decard like THC. They say it takes a bit longer to decarbe than THC, like 15min more....

I've been doing experiments with Candida and kilamanjaro oil/pills vs my old Dutch Treat 2/1 CBD/THC pills

I like the two different pills options. I take a full 00 Candy pill...then about 1-1/2 - 2hrs later a killy pill. It works well. I made some 1/2 strength killy pills so I don't get as HIGH

I personally think doing a THC pill and a CBD pill is your best option. Then u can tailor each to each person, you and Ms Van, lol, Ms Stank sounds nasty so I'll call her Ms Van...lol

I need ta take a pic of my Nightengale buds...tasty girl for sure

 

[Planter420]

Re: 1st Grow - Alaskan Thunderfuck x4 - Durban Poison - Blue Kush & Blueberry In Kind

Well don't short change the guy, you can at least give the full 1.50!!!

 

[Van Stank]

Re: 1st Grow - Alaskan Thunderfuck x4 - Durban Poison - Blue Kush & Blueberry In Kind

Well don’t short change the guy, you can at least give the full 1.50!!!

I knew Chris was holding out on me. I want my other .12 cents worth of input Chris!!

 

[Grandpa Tokin]

Re: 1st Grow - Alaskan Thunderfuck x4 - Durban Poison - Blue Kush & Blueberry In Kind

Yes, I shared your recipe back on page 106 of the computer version of the journal.

Ms Stank doesn't really chat a lot, she is more of the quiet type....but don't worry about being 'respectful' with her or in here. We are both politically incorrect and enjoy crude humor and she has a dirtier mind than most of the Marines that served with me. Its hard to bother either one of us so feel free to be your normal self. In other words, don't behave on our account. Be yourself and enjoy it here, those are our only requests.

I am mixing up my 2nd batch of oil with the MBM2. Last night I made some ATF oil with all my ATF trim and about 8 grams of decarbed (from the Nova) ATF buds....mixed with coconut oil and lecithin and cooked at 190 degrees for 8 hours. Tonight I am doing ATF trim and 7 grams of non-decarbed bud (experimenting) in olive oil, being cooked at 160 degrees for 8 hours.

Trying to find my dosage on last nights oil, but not sure I am there yet. I took 1/4 teaspoon at 10pm, didn't feel much at 11pm so I took another 1/4 teaspoon and see how I am doing at bedtime (normally around 1am). If I haven't found the relief I am looking for after my Physical therapy today, I will smoke a hit or two of blueberry and go to sleep. Definitely excited to play around with the oils.

I love my MBM2! I’ve never run my canna coconut oil for that long (8 hours). Seems excessive to me, but I’m an old newb. I mix my decarbed weed or rosin with the coconut oil and lecithin in the machine. Hit 160 for one hour. Fill into capsules and get stoned. Am I missing something? I’m serious, not trying to be a dick...yet!

 

[Van Stank]

Re: 1st Grow - Alaskan Thunderfuck x4 - Durban Poison - Blue Kush & Blueberry In Kind

I love my MBM2! I’ve never run my canna coconut oil for that long (8 hours). Seems excessive to me, but I’m an old newb. I mix my decarbed weed or rosin with the coconut oil and lecithin in the machine. Hit 160 for one hour. Fill into capsules and get stoned. Am I missing something? I’m serious, not trying to be a dick...yet!

Well....I have two runs under my belt so I know absolutely nothing about the machine or oil. I know I followed Grow2HealMe's recipe where she uses 160 degrees for 8 hours (think she might be using olive oil as opposed to coconut oil)and she says she has found her oil to be most potent at 8 hours. So for my first 2 runs I tried one at 190 degrees and one at 160 degrees to see if there was any difference.

I am pretty sure that I messed up the first run or the machine messed up.....so I am decarbing 15 grams of ATF bud and I am going to run that same coconut oil I used in the 1st run again in this upcoming run.

You could very well be right Grandpa, perhaps 1 hour is all thats needed and I plan on working my way down to the 1 hour batch each time that I try. Time is no issue for me. Time is abundant for me!! LOL But I am a big experimenter anyways so I doubt that I will ever keep things the same way for any extended period. I always try to find different or better ways of doing things.

 

[Chris Scorpio]

Re: 1st Grow - Alaskan Thunderfuck x4 - Durban Poison - Blue Kush & Blueberry In Kind

Well don't short change the guy, you can at least give the full 1.50!!!

I knew Chris was holding out on me. I want my other .12 cents worth of input Chris!!

I always hold back the Xtra .12 cents

Most can't handle the full blown $1.50 from me

Lol

 

[Van Stank]

Re: 1st Grow - Alaskan Thunderfuck x4 - Durban Poison - Blue Kush & Blueberry In Kind

I always hold back the Xtra .12 cents

Most can't handle the full blown $1.50 from me

Lol

LOL, for some reason my bullshit meter just went off!!

 

[Chris Scorpio]

Re: 1st Grow - Alaskan Thunderfuck x4 - Durban Poison - Blue Kush & Blueberry In Kind

LOL, for some reason my bullshit meter just went off!!

May wanna re-calibrate that meter Van.

I'm thinking it's about .12% off

Lol

 

[Planter420]

Re: 1st Grow - Alaskan Thunderfuck x4 - Durban Poison - Blue Kush & Blueberry In Kind

There you go, it's only right!

 

[Lady G2HM]

Re: 1st Grow - Alaskan Thunderfuck x4 - Durban Poison - Blue Kush & Blueberry In Kind

So G2HM, for the decarb. I'll only be doing CBD oils at first for my girlfriend. Does the weed need to go through decarb with CBD rich plants? I know it's likely that most of the plants were growing have low levels of THC, but for those that don't.. ...Im wondering if their is any benefit? The plants that I'm presently growing are specifically for the oil, and I do have trim left over from my previous grows that would have had THC trichomes on it. I will be adding those to the mix to help with opening up this CBD receptors but I'm wondering about the lot of CBD itself....ideas?

*Hi Guy, I highly recommend decarbing CBD. So far in my research I have not read anywhere that CBD needs to be treated differently, except for being a little gentle with it so the trichomes make it into the oil. If you are using it as a dosing oil or anything edible, it has to be decarbed. That is where all the magic happens BABAY! hahahahaha. Now if you're juicing, you don't have to decarb. If you are not looking for the euphoria, you could just NOT decarb it, you won't get the max potency out of your plant material either.

You want to activate the THCA to convert it to THC to attack the pain. CBD is good on it's own but not as effective when it accompanies THC. THC goes directly to the neuro transmitters and blocks the pain. Then the CBD goes in and works on bringing down the swelling. They work in unison of each other.

Now if you don't have THC it's gonna take a longer time to address the pain. CBD works on bringing down inflammation over time but it won't be as effective without her little partner in crime...THC. If there is no THC then you won't be addressing the short term pain. The CBD will eventually work over time to bring down the swelling and eventually you won't need as much THC thus reducing your meds.

I use dark ambered with dropper bottles because I don't have the dexterity to handle the caps yet. Also, if you don't use your caps right away they tend to leak, and that would get sooo messy for me. Plus I have a germ ocd and I feel like touching my meds with my hands and putting dirty fingerprints everyday makes my ocd wanna get out the blacklight. Sooo, I opted for dropper bottles. Cannacaps are soooo useful though and I do highly recommend them for others, especially cancer patients. Again just personal preference.

If you have anymore questions, just continue to ask. Also, Mr. Stank called me an oil expert, I never thought of it that way, I just want to stop the suffering and beat the medical doctors down to a shriveling pulp by using their science against them. That's all...hahahaha

 

[Grandpa Tokin]

Re: 1st Grow - Alaskan Thunderfuck x4 - Durban Poison - Blue Kush & Blueberry In Kind

Well....I have two runs under my belt so I know absolutely nothing about the machine or oil. I know I followed Grow2HealMe's recipe where she uses 160 degrees for 8 hours (think she might be using olive oil as opposed to coconut oil)and she says she has found her oil to be most potent at 8 hours. So for my first 2 runs I tried one at 190 degrees and one at 160 degrees to see if there was any difference.

I am pretty sure that I messed up the first run or the machine messed up.....so I am decarbing 15 grams of ATF bud and I am going to run that same coconut oil I used in the 1st run again in this upcoming run.

You could very well be right Grandpa, perhaps 1 hour is all thats needed and I plan on working my way down to the 1 hour batch each time that I try. Time is no issue for me. Time is abundant for me!! LOL But I am a big experimenter anyways so I doubt that I will ever keep things the same way for any extended period. I always try to find different or better ways of doing things.

LOL! Keep experimenting please. The more you folks work the less the old-dude's gotta do!

I got my recipe from the MBM2 booklet that came with my machine (picture). I've followed the booklet for canna coconut oil and for canna butter and it works fine on my ailments. Like I said, I absolutely worship this machine for what it's brought me. No regrets whatsoever. Bottom line here is if more cooking time increases potency then I'm in! I love these discussions! It's important for all of us and I sincerely appreciate you and G2HM (and everyone who keeps searching) talking about it. Thanks for letting me be a part of it.

 

[Van Stank]

Re: 1st Grow - Alaskan Thunderfuck x4 - Durban Poison - Blue Kush & Blueberry In Kind

Thanks for posting Grandpa!! I will work my way down to trying the books recipe. Following directions aren't always the most fun.....its generally more fun to experiment!!

 

[Pennywise]

Re: 1st Grow - Alaskan Thunderfuck x4 - Durban Poison - Blue Kush & Blueberry In Kind

Super duper love butter!

 

[Van Stank]

Re: 1st Grow - Alaskan Thunderfuck x4 - Durban Poison - Blue Kush & Blueberry In Kind

LOL....love butter. Are we going from meds to playthings now?

 

[Grandpa Tokin]

Re: 1st Grow - Alaskan Thunderfuck x4 - Durban Poison - Blue Kush & Blueberry In Kind

Super duper love butter!

LOL! Don’t make me stop this car!

 

[Pennywise]

Re: 1st Grow - Alaskan Thunderfuck x4 - Durban Poison - Blue Kush & Blueberry In Kind

Always! .