Peaceman: no can't say I use it. However I use A.N's carboload, which is basicly blackstrap molasses, just renered down a bit. I use that along w/ flora necter to boost up the activity going on in the soil. There's a pict of one of my cabs w/ some products that I use. Currently I'm using H&G in my hydro w/ some additives, not much though. The soil is getting g.h mix w/ some minor additives to control branching out.