oh wait do you mean the ones in the pic? the ones in the pic i really wouldnt know it started as a grow but that was way before i knew anything about growing and they ended up dying due to me not knowin that i had to feed nutes and such they were looking super nice though wish i had saved them
well i was lookin at envirogrow 250w cfl finally found a claim of 20000 lumens (not bad for veg considering about same a a 250w mh) BUT the 250w hps has the cfl beat so i might do the hps for flower