oh wait do you mean the ones in the pic? the ones in the pic i really wouldnt know it started as a grow but that was way before i knew anything about growing and they ended up dying due to me not knowin that i had to feed nutes and such they were looking super nice though wish i had saved them
well i was lookin at envirogrow 250w cfl finally found a claim of 20000 lumens (not bad for veg considering about same a a 250w mh) BUT the 250w hps has the cfl beat so i might do the hps for flower
ehhh damn i just read the fine print on the box "10,050 scotopic" lumens 6,700 photopic lumens hmmm... but they have the better ones at grow shops i want to try sticking with fluros
oh well if you cant right now its cool i can wait i just wanted to take a look at it and see if maybe i can find the same around the web and info on it