Yellow leafes

[darkdragon2451]

i was thinking more about the fact you've only got 1 bottle nute. it's hard to balance that, and that is coming from someone who also uses a single part nute.

Yeah i wanted to try the fertilizer Out. i currently use a Brand called 420Flow and im rlly Happy with it. Its a 3 Part fertilizer and i used it on 2 Auto plants and both gave over 60g wich was the best for me so far.

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with only one thing, all you can do is mix less, or add more. not a pile of room to play.

i use a single part dry nute that i mix to strength myself, but i balance it with calmag at different stages, and use a bloom booster in flower, with my own mix again. it's only 3 things, though sounds more difficult.

some guys here have a dozen or so bottles. screw that.

Yeah thats why i wanted to Test Out the 5in1 and for Most plants it worked somewhat good.

but i'd get some cal mag at least.

Yeah i do have Calmag and some other fertilizer at Home from Testing before.

edit: why is your nutes at your brother's place lol? .. you need them on site to mix feed. it typically changes a lot over the grow. i often change it every feed in late veg through flower.

My Brother bought a 3L can and is using it in His plants too. Thats why i have a extra can that He poured some in there for me. (Like i Said above i am currently Testing it thats why i took some from my Brother)

 

[bluter]

Idk how y'all feel about flushes but in this situation if you are not sure about soil or can't remember exact details or lack the products to correct it, maybe going back to scratch is a good option. You will save the harvest,yields not gonna be the same but it's the fastest way to get plant back to moving forward, back to a manageable point? What y'all think ?

flushing an organically derived bottle nute does nothing but crash the grow.

it's only ever been relevant with salt based nutes and even then is wildly misunderstood and used improperly.

 

[Sativa1970]

Flushing strips everything out of the media. Fine if you are running inert media and synthetic nutrient because it is easy to dump in replacement nutrient. In organic you are pushing out available nutrient, microbes, and not yet available nutrients. Slow process to rebuild amendments, a microbe colony and wait for them to process the new raw materials into nutrient the plant can use. Plant starves to death waiting.

 

[darkdragon2451]

Flushing strips everything out of the media. Fine if you are running inert media and synthetic nutrient because it is easy to dump in replacement nutrient. In organic you are pushing out available nutrient, microbes, and not yet available nutrients. Slow process to rebuild amendments, a microbe colony and wait for them to process the new raw materials into nutrient the plant can use. Plant starves to death waiting.

I have her some calmag and some nitrogen fertilizer a few days ago and she Looks a Bit better by now (Green leafes are coming at the top for now)

 

[Sativa1970]

Pale old growth is low N. Pale young growth is low calcium not mobilizing N.

 

[darkdragon2451]

Pale old growth is low N. Pale young growth is low calcium not mobilizing N.

She did start at the top and then also started on the bottom but it didnt Look Like a nitrogen deficiency.

 

[Sativa1970]

Sorry, yellowing old growth is low N. Yellowing new growth is low calcium slowing the mobilizing of N.

That is what I was trying to type.

 

[4our8ighty0]

Oh np I just throwing out ideas was thinking if soil is unbalanced and is not familiar with the diagnosis or nute correction and plant monitoring required to bring her back to balance!! then the easiest,fastest and safest way to get soil to zero is a mild flush,wouldn't need to run more then a gal thru medium to rebalance. Plant changed over a week so balance is still within range. Nothing we can do for food in the plant but if we reset soil all he needs to do is runs 1 maybe 2 gals of ph'ed water,thru medium raise temps n let her show her hunger then start over he can reset n adjust feed rate to get back to balanced the fastest saving flower time. It's always a emergency option !! This kinda a difficult situation tbh.

 

[4our8ighty0]

Flushing strips everything out of the media. Fine if you are running inert media and synthetic nutrient because it is easy to dump in replacement nutrient. In organic you are pushing out available nutrient, microbes, and not yet available nutrients. Slow process to rebuild amendments, a microbe colony and wait for them to process the new raw materials into nutrient the plant can use. Plant starves to death waiting.

I'm thinking in terms of flower time and practicality. It can be flushed and replenished. It's an excellent emergency method. Often iny experience there are situations that arise that can be easily fixed with a flush. It's harsh yes but far from lethal and far from a taboo.

 

[Sativa1970]

@4our8ighty0 Just terminology. There is a difference between healthy watering and a flush. Healthy watering to push out excess salts from synthetic or hot organics, correct PH or such, is not the same as a flush. Healthy watering will help reset and fix a lot of issues. 1/4 of the soil in water volume is a standard watering.1/2 to 3/4 of the volume in water is a healthy watering. Doing 1-2+ times the volume is a flush. That is when you are starting to creating a new problem with organics.

 

[4our8ighty0]

@4our8ighty0 Just terminology. There is a difference between healthy watering and a flush. Healthy watering to push out excess salts from synthetic or hot organics, correct PH or such, is not the same as a flush. Healthy watering will help reset and fix a lot of issues. 1/4 of the soil in water volume is a standard watering.1/2 to 3/4 of the volume in water is a healthy watering. Doing 1-2+ times the volume is a flush. That is when you are starting to creating a new problem with organics.

Aahhh ok I see,that my fault for sure cuz I'm still using old ass lingo,just gotta get myself updated n wat not y'know........am I old ..?

 

[Sativa1970]

Aahhh ok I see,that my fault for sure cuz I'm still using old ass lingo,just gotta get myself updated n wat not y'know........am I old ..?

No problem, no fault, just don't want miscommunication causing issues. What you were saying was correct but how people read it could be wrong.

Who's old? We are just in the spot between experience and senility.