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darkdragon2451
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Yeah i did infact gave her the Phosphor Booster about a week Prior.
Yellow leafes
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But what i dont get is that the seller of the fertilizer Said that because its Bio the soil/fertilizer will Control the Ph Level and the intakte of the nutrients.
4our8ighty0
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Hmm seems like a fairly mild OD. You have options here you can raise over all feed level to offset the ratio of bloom to veg nutes,very touchy process. You can ride it out,I don't recommend because you losing flower time. But In your case I really think you should consider a mild flush w pH room temp water. Raise temps and humidity a bit and Wait a few days until they green up n recover a bit then reintroduce bloom nutes at a much more gradual rate over a week or more. It's early so they will be ok. I would wait to see what others recommend. I am just a dork w a joint. I am probly forgetting or missing something anyhow
can't find enough info in this thread to figure it out.
sounds like you're not supposed to ph with that nute line and media. impossible to tell for sure with the info given. can you spell the name of the nute line and media without spelling errors?
edit : while at it have read through this :
try and give us the info needed. right now you're only gonna get a dart board guess with what you have given.
sounds like you're not supposed to ph with that nute line and media. impossible to tell for sure with the info given. can you spell the name of the nute line and media without spelling errors?
edit : while at it have read through this :
try and give us the info needed. right now you're only gonna get a dart board guess with what you have given.
It will help control the swing as the pH goes from a more acceptable level around 6.3 pH and moving up towards 7.0 pH in a natural dirt or compost soil mix. I do not remember reading anything about the micro-organisms controlling the pH and lowering it down to the optimum 6.3 pH in those types of soil.
I suggest you look up and find a pH chart which will show the most common nutrients and the optimum pH level for each of them. Many of these nutrients are becoming less available or not available at all by the time the pH hits 7. If the micro life cannot reduce the pH then the plant will suffer.
The idea is use water that already has a pH of 6.3 or very, very close and then let these micro-organism do what they have to do. There are some fertilizers that will control the pH swings but if I am remembering right the control is more of a chemical reaction and not by controlling the micro-organisms.
i think he's actually running a ph balanced nute and media but i can't find the info. there are few too many products with similar names, and the spelling seems off.
ph'ing at all may be a fatal move but i don't have enough to go on.
He mentions it in msg #5 and calls it Bio Juice (5in1 Greenpower).
I tracked it down to Green Power 5 in 1 Fertilizer and it is from a German company with several English translation pages.
gaia green also has a line under the green power name. did not find the german company. that would make sense, i'm assuming @darkdragon2451 is from there now.
that link took to some place called nummer 1 grow shop - with that spelling lol - they are either the top or make you numb lol
edit: that nute is calling for changing ph all over the map during the grow. not something i immediately trust.
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Yeah they are a German company and i Heard about them the First time while watching their Video about the fertilizer (sadly in German) where He explained how the fertilizer works what to do etc. (Thats where He explicitly Said that the Bio fertilizer and soil will divide the nutrients how the plant needs it)
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-Godzilla Cookies Autocan't find enough info in this thread to figure it out.
sounds like you're not supposed to ph with that nute line and media. impossible to tell for sure with the info given. can you spell the name of the nute line and media without spelling errors?
edit : while at it have read through this :
try and give us the info needed. right now you're only gonna get a dart board guess with what you have given.
-40% sativa 60% Indica
-1 plant
-In flower Stage since about 3-4 weeks
Outdoor
-Soil
-The soil is 5in1 light Mix soil
-The Pot is a Airport and is 2.8gal big
-300 Watt light (120cmx60cm tent and 6 plants)
-I have a vent in the tent aswell as a Inline fan
-About 21-23°C at day and 18-20°C at night
-Humidity is Always at 45-55%
-Idk the Ph of the soil but as i Said i Ph them with 7.ish water.
-No pests
-I water every 2nd to 3rd day depending how dry they are
-5 in 1 Greenpower fertilizer (NPK 4.5-0.5-5.5 and a Phosphor Powder with i think about 20)
-120cmx60cmx180
Hope this Helps (the plant is getting a Bit better tough)
really good chance it is root bound. indoor sizes usually are 5gal and outdoor will generally be larger. sometimes by a fair bit.
when they get bound roots dies off and the plant can't feed itself. it will start consuming the leaves cannibalizing itself to try and finish.
autos usually finish with less media but you have to make sure they have enough. i don't think a roughly 3 gal is gonna do it outdoor.
is it the same brand? at this point the media mostly taken up by roots and is not as much of a factor.
are you outdoor or indoor? you are sending mixed messages.
those figures are ok. i've grown no problem under them. you could bring the temps up slightly.
follow the ph matched for your nutes and media in the feed schedule. always match the nutes to your media type.
this could also be a point of fail. read through this tutorial on feeding in soil types.
post a photo of what you are working with. include both front and back of the bottles.
4our8ighty0
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Yea when asking for help the more detailed and thorough the information you provide the faster and easier it is to get the right help. I know somethings might seem unimportant but So many plant issues express in similar and not so similar ways. The only way to differentiate what is happening is meticulous notes documenting all the important and unimportant aspects of the grow. Scroll back n look at smokingwings and blueter,they both probly spent 15 -20 mins just trying to Sherlock Holmes your grow feed so they could help you while you was away lol
did good job too. !! the new info you shared took the potential issues of p+k overdose to a pH issue that could be locking out other nutes,they both could possibly look exactly same in a pic!! If you looking for self balancing pH try Advanced nutrients it's a 3 part feed that balances pH to 6.5. I have used it before and it's very good stuff,organic ingredients,I think it's all organic kelated plant feed. It has sasquatch on front too lol. You in good hands bro tho these 2 among best plant docs on 420 your babies be back to nugging soon enough 
did good job too. !! the new info you shared took the potential issues of p+k overdose to a pH issue that could be locking out other nutes,they both could possibly look exactly same in a pic!! If you looking for self balancing pH try Advanced nutrients it's a 3 part feed that balances pH to 6.5. I have used it before and it's very good stuff,organic ingredients,I think it's all organic kelated plant feed. It has sasquatch on front too lol. You in good hands bro tho these 2 among best plant docs on 420 your babies be back to nugging soon enough - Thread starter
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Yeah Smokingwings and blueter have helped me significantly helped me in the past! Props to them for knowing a Thing or two about These wonderful plants.Yea when asking for help the more detailed and thorough the information you provide the faster and easier it is to get the right help. I know somethings might seem unimportant but So many plant issues express in similar and not so similar ways. The only way to differentiate what is happening is meticulous notes documenting all the important and unimportant aspects of the grow. Scroll back n look at smokingwings and blueter,they both probly spent 15 -20 mins just trying to Sherlock Holmes your grow feed so they could help you while you was away lol
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Yeah it is from the same Brand (5in 1 Greenpower)
Im growing Indoor
I dont think its a watering Problem cause im Always waiting atleast 2 days before watering again (i Check the bottom of the Pot where it has a Mesh Plate) i also let some water Flow Out from under it to know its wetthose figures are ok. i've grown no problem under them. you could bring the temps up slightly.
follow the ph matched for your nutes and media in the feed schedule. always match the nutes to your media type.
this could also be a point of fail. read through this tutorial on feeding in soil types.
I dont have the Box where the fertilizer is at Home (my Brother has it), i do have soil Here.
if you are feeding that way it is a definite problem. re-read the tutorial and learn to do it that way.
in this system you probably remember to also never just use water alone. you should always feed.
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Yeah i almost do it the same as in the Post. I have a pressure Sprayer and i do it Like this.
1. Water the top a Bit and let it sink for some min (about 150ml)
2. I water the outside rim (Not Close to IT tho cause then it will Flow Out the holes (Air pots)), then letting them chill for another 5-10 min. (About 250ml)
3. I water her through until it flows Out from the bottom (about 750-850ml)
Keep in mind i have smaller pots therefore i dont need much water
I do use fertilizer every time i water them. I Just say "i water them" cause i dont know Word for water with fertilizer
those little pots aren't helping. things are much more stable in the larger ones. easier to fix when it goes sideways.
feed. some folk call it fertigating.
at this point i'm not sure we're getting them back. fixing stuff in flower is super tough to do.
it's harder with weird euro products on top of it. if you were here i'd have them fixed in a wk.
it's all nute issues but there isn't much you have in the toolbox to fix it.
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Yeah next grow i will def use grow bags that are about 5 Gal and i will use Photoperiod strains
Thx letting me know
Yeah the laws of Cannabis in Germany are pretty weird at the Moment cause its new (for example you can only have 50g in your House but 1 plant is already going way over the Limit
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Yeah the laws of Cannabis in Germany are pretty weird at the Moment cause its new (for example you can only have 50g in your House but 1 plant is already going way over the Limit
i was thinking more about the fact you've only got 1 bottle nute. it's hard to balance that, and that is coming from someone who also uses a single part nute.
with only one thing, all you can do is mix less, or add more. not a pile of room to play.
i use a single part dry nute that i mix to strength myself, but i balance it with calmag at different stages, and use a bloom booster in flower, with my own mix again. it's only 3 things, though sounds more difficult.
some guys here have a dozen or so bottles. screw that.
but i'd get some cal mag at least.
edit: why is your nutes at your brother's place lol? .. you need them on site to mix feed. it typically changes a lot over the grow. i often change it every feed in late veg through flower.
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Idk how y'all feel about flushes but in this situation if you are not sure about soil or can't remember exact details or lack the products to correct it, maybe going back to scratch is a good option. You will save the harvest,yields not gonna be the same but it's the fastest way to get plant back to moving forward, back to a manageable point? What y'all think ?