Xlr8's Hydroponic Adventures & Photos From The Garden - 2012

props for writing all that down man, will deffs pick up some home defense soon. you use hot-shot nps right? we only have the home defense nps here, should work the same no? those brownies sound tasty as shit too lol will try em soon


plants be looking awesome bro

First: :thankyou:!!

Yes, Hot Shot "No Pests" strips are what I use. It looks like the Home Defense NPS are pretty much the same -- both use the same main ingredient in similar proportions (Dichlorvos).

Thanks again!
 
Alaskan1 said:
So both of you aren't using the GLR system?

jandre2k3 said:
Not for FLOWER!

I've always wanted to try the diminishing light schedule that is the bloom portion of the Gas Lantern Routine, but keep taking the easier path.

I've been comparing results I'm seeing between bloom runs of 12/12, 11/13, and 11.5/12.5 lately. I think 12/12 is still good with indica dominant plants, but so far I like 11.5/12.5 best for sativa dominant plants (but that's after just one run).

I have used GLR for veg but my veg space is small, shares space with my cloning area, and is easier to manage with 24/0 vegging right now. :)
 
Hi Ya X ! :high-five:

Your girls are looking soooo good Brother, Love the one that's so tight you have remove leaves!

You were just by my place I know, but you may want to take another look.....just posted pictures.
Did a bit what you did and talked a bit about keeping nasty bugs away. Take a look if you will. As you can tell, I'm a bit fired up about them.
:high-five:
 
Hi Ya X ! :high-five:

Your girls are looking soooo good Brother, Love the one that's so tight you have remove leaves!

You were just by my place I know, but you may want to take another look.....just posted pictures.
Did a bit what you did and talked a bit about keeping nasty bugs away. Take a look if you will. As you can tell, I'm a bit fired up about them.
:high-five:

Bummer about the bugs! I hate 'em! Hope the leafminers "leave" you alone my friend. So cool to see you with plants outside again!
 
Hey X the girls look great. Hope all is well with you.

Hey buddy! Thank you. I was just thinking of you... hadn't seen you around in a couple of weeks. How's the Grandaddy Purp, you still have that going? Hope you are well too!
 
Hey buddy! Thank you. I was just thinking of you... hadn't seen you around in a couple of weeks. How's the Grandaddy Purp, you still have that going? Hope you are well too!

GDP had issues, I have one but it has been playing lame just now starting to come around. I dropped a couple Pineapple Express seeds in rapid rooters about 5 days afrter the GDP and they are doing good better than me any way. lol
 
I know I am late to this grow, but hey, that's me!..lol. I have little to contribute to hydro, as I have only dabbled in designing the systems, never grew with them. Saw to many nightmares of others, scared me off..lol. But still here for the beautiful bud pics. You have the knack and the skill level to perfect it, kudos brother.
 
Flo N Gro update - Bloom phase (day 1 completed)

The plants just completed their 24 hour dark period, and now first day of reduced hours for flowering. Instead of the traditional 12/12 light cycle, I'm going to flower them with 11.5 hours "on" and 12.5 "off" (11.5/12.5). Again, I'm growing primarily sativa hybrids. This is the same light cycle I used for my last round, and I was pleased with the results.



Group picture from above, immediately after coming out of their dark period. They look yellowish in the pictures, but in person the new growth is a healthy, almost "electric" green.

Top: Pineapple Express, Deadhead Ripper. Bottom: Jack the Ripper mom, OG Ripper, Deadhead Ripper
sept_17_1.jpg


I'm really happy with how healthy they are. right side:
sept_17_2.jpg


Left side
sept_17_3.jpg


Jack the Ripper mom that I'm flowering (airpot with coco coir). Believe it or not, she was just thinned recently and I'd guess I removed nearly half of her foliage. This pheno is insanely tight noded and needs a lot of thinning:
sept_17_4.jpg








Returning the favor, brotha.


Yep, looks good! I see my work here is done!

:laughtwo:
 
I've always wanted to try the diminishing light schedule that is the bloom portion of the Gas Lantern Routine, but keep taking the easier path.

I've been comparing results I'm seeing between bloom runs of 12/12, 11/13, and 11.5/12.5 lately. I think 12/12 is still good with indica dominant plants, but so far I like 11.5/12.5 best for sativa dominant plants (but that's after just one run).

I have used GLR for veg but my veg space is small, shares space with my cloning area, and is easier to manage with 24/0 vegging right now. :)

Here's the dilemma though. I have been collecting data from a few growers on here that are using Diminishing Light for flower, as well as a few other places... My findings are getting interesting. I'm seeing a 15% - 20% reduction of weight loss from cut/wet weight to the "hang/snap" dry weight. I can't be positive, bit it seems to me that the final push of resins with the last couple weeks in 8 hours light - 16 hours dark, is really upping quality of smoke... And if anything, it's not hurting yield.

Okay, to better explain my position here... usually in hydro, there is a loss of about 70% weight in hanging to dry. What I'm seeing, and it's still very early, but that weigh loss in hanging is down to about 60% - 63%. In other words, final weight is 15% to 19% HEAVIER when dried. And that's just preliminary findings... I'll have to collect WAY more data before making an official determination, and proper conclusion, but so far, that is the biggest single reason to switch as it stands right now.

The plants are no smaller, they are so far, no less aromatic, no less vigorously flowering, and show very little difference at all, with the exception of the final dry weights.
 
Reason alone to rethink my perpetual. Thank you jandre. Great work bud.

Wait a minute... Perpetual has its advantages, too... If you're wanting a quick and constant turnover, harvesting every 6 weeks, 5 weeks, 4 weeks, or even 3 weeks, perpetual SOG is THE way to go. Leave you lights at 11/13 (took that from Twelve12) and you'll be knocking them out in no time... just keep on top of all those individual containers, and use tape to mark the projected week for harvest written on it to help you keep track.
 
Here's the dilemma though. I have been collecting data from a few growers on here that are using Diminishing Light for flower, as well as a few other places... My findings are getting interesting. I'm seeing a 15% - 20% reduction of weight loss from cut/wet weight to the "hang/snap" dry weight. I can't be positive, bit it seems to me that the final push of resins with the last couple weeks in 8 hours light - 16 hours dark, is really upping quality of smoke... And if anything, it's not hurting yield.

Okay, to better explain my position here... usually in hydro, there is a loss of about 70% weight in hanging to dry. What I'm seeing, and it's still very early, but that weigh loss in hanging is down to about 60% - 63%. In other words, final weight is 15% to 19% HEAVIER when dried. And that's just preliminary findings... I'll have to collect WAY more data before making an official determination, and proper conclusion, but so far, that is the biggest single reason to switch as it stands right now.

The plants are no smaller, they are so far, no less aromatic, no less vigorously flowering, and show very little difference at all, with the exception of the final dry weights.

Then on top of that consider electrical savings as well as less heat, Less bulb usage and longer life and well........there ya have it!
 
Flo N Gro update - Bloom phase (day 1 completed)

The plants just completed their 24 hour dark period, and now first day of reduced hours for flowering. Instead of the traditional 12/12 light cycle, I'm going to flower them with 11.5 hours "on" and 12.5 "off" (11.5/12.5). Again, I'm growing primarily sativa hybrids. This is the same light cycle I used for my last round, and I was pleased with the results.



Group picture from above, immediately after coming out of their dark period. They look yellowish in the pictures, but in person the new growth is a healthy, almost "electric" green.

Top: Pineapple Express, Deadhead Ripper. Bottom: Jack the Ripper mom, OG Ripper, Deadhead Ripper
sept_17_1.jpg


I'm really happy with how healthy they are. right side:
sept_17_2.jpg


Left side
sept_17_3.jpg


Jack the Ripper mom that I'm flowering (airpot with coco coir). Believe it or not, she was just thinned recently and I'd guess I removed nearly half of her foliage. This pheno is insanely tight noded and needs a lot of thinning:
sept_17_4.jpg








This and the tile alone was enough for me to Subb keep it up Bro! :thumb:
 
Xlr8 said:
I've always wanted to try the diminishing light schedule that is the bloom portion of the Gas Lantern Routine, but keep taking the easier path.

I've been comparing results I'm seeing between bloom runs of 12/12, 11/13, and 11.5/12.5 lately. I think 12/12 is still good with indica dominant plants, but so far I like 11.5/12.5 best for sativa dominant plants (but that's after just one run).

I have used GLR for veg but my veg space is small, shares space with my cloning area, and is easier to manage with 24/0 vegging right now.

Xlr8, what if you have both cloning machine and mums in the same tent and when you take clones, turn the whole tent lights to 18/6 ?
When clones go to veg (above shelf), you turn the lights back to 12-5.5-1-5.5 !! (As it was before taking clones)
Assuming you clone with 18/6 photo period.
Do you think, there will be a problem with this routine ?
 
Xlr8, what if you have both cloning machine and mums in the same tent and when you take clones, turn the whole tent lights to 18/6 ?
When clones go to veg (above shelf), you turn the lights back to 12-5.5-1-5.5 !! (As it was before taking clones)
Assuming you clone with 18/6 photo period.
Do you think, there will be a problem with this routine ?

I think this would throw the mums off if you went back and forth with it. The mums wouldn't know what was going on.
 
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