Woodsman Outdoors

[lavendar]

Humm is this the right place? Is this the guy that has all those chicks out sunning naked on the deck? I also remember something about worms the size of tractors devouring whole fields of pot...wait that was just a dream, I hope...

Got a bong today and it works good...really good.......was an early birthday present and an attempt to lower my consumption and save my lungs.... My little glass pipe just gives me too hot of smoke and I cough far too much. My vaporizer is just wasteful, but I like it.

And I just like bongs, I always have.

Nothing like lungs filled with cooled smoke. Got a thick glass one, so hopefully it survives. I will post some pics later maybe...if I am not too stoned...

Peace brother.

saw the pic of the new bong, yes i am partial to them also....that is a dandy one...mine isnt allowed in the house...it stinks im told....so i use the pipes and vaporizer also...do you save the vaporized smoke? after it turns gold, it still has about 10% thc in it and all the cbns to make butter out of...thats where i use it, or in the hash oil mix if i'm light wt. there in shake...tastes nutty also...lavendar

oh woods,
you may be headed for trouble....that many females....spray them and water them with azamax and they'll most likely be ok....mine usually are, and if not, i'll always think they should have been...i think the roots will be fine...i just hate to tell people to do something....it worked for me...and thats the truth...i had this weird clay foot with mex. designs all over it, and i put a tiny little plant in it...well, it grew, and it was all i had...so i just kept triming the roots and it was fine for a yr or two, finally let it die off...was getting ready to move, and i didnt want it hanging out of the truck going down the road in case the tarp blew off....this was in ark...so it would not have been a good thing to have happen...lavendar

 

[OldMedMan]

I sure did...going to see blue now!

 

[Odin]

saw the pic of the new bong, yes i am partial to them also....that is a dandy one...mine isnt allowed in the house...it stinks im told....so i use the pipes and vaporizer also...do you save the vaporized smoke? after it turns gold, it still has about 10% thc in it and all the cbns to make butter out of...thats where i use it, or in the hash oil mix if i'm light wt. there in shake...tastes nutty also...lavendar

I always save my vaporized materials. Toss them in with whatever I am using to make cannabutter. I like to think it adds a little extra THC spice to my butter

 

[Woodsman]

saw the pic of the new bong, yes i am partial to them also....that is a dandy one...mine isnt allowed in the house...it stinks im told....so i use the pipes and vaporizer also...do you save the vaporized smoke? after it turns gold, it still has about 10% thc in it and all the cbns to make butter out of...thats where i use it, or in the hash oil mix if i'm light wt. there in shake...tastes nutty also...lavendar

oh woods,
you may be headed for trouble....that many females....spray them and water them with azamax and they'll most likely be ok....mine usually are, and if not, i'll always think they should have been...i think the roots will be fine...i just hate to tell people to do something....it worked for me...and thats the truth...i had this weird clay foot with mex. designs all over it, and i put a tiny little plant in it...well, it grew, and it was all i had...so i just kept triming the roots and it was fine for a yr or two, finally let it die off...was getting ready to move, and i didnt want it hanging out of the truck going down the road in case the tarp blew off....this was in ark...so it would not have been a good thing to have happen...lavendar

Hi L, Azamax :....... 'Its active ingredient, a natural derivative of the neem tree,'......

I use neem oil on the plant now, but this stuff is applied through the roots with the waterings and feedings?
It's like 20 bucks for 4 oz pretty steep at Amazon. I'll look around a bit. Just wondering if I could use the neem oil that I have like that?

I sure did...going to see blue now!

Thanks OMM!

I always save my vaporized materials. Toss them in with whatever I am using to make cannabutter. I like to think it adds a little extra THC spice to my butter

So what is the difference in the effect of a vaporizer or a pipe. If the vap leaves some of the desired elements behind (not ingested) does that mean that you don't get as high?

 

[lavendar]

woods,
its steep everywhere....and it works, not fast, but deadly....first you spray, they need a couple of hrs to dry before dark, so i used in the morning or evening, or the bathtub, and left the light on....at the same time, i watered with it...goes systemic....tastes bad, and works by disrupting the juvenile cycle, they are unable to grow the outer covering, so die off and cannot reproduce...it disrupts that cycle...i spray the green house with it, the screens and floor and door screens, no bugs all last summer....

tragedy in my eden today...lost 2 plants, the temps are too high...

and you can use up to harvest, but i usually quit before then and when they start getting buds...usually enough in the plant to carry thru to then...get the instructions for use off the internet...too darn small to read on the bottle... lavendar

 

[Odin]

So what is the difference in the effect of a vaporizer or a pipe. If the vap leaves some of the desired elements behind (not ingested) does that mean that you don't get as high?

Basically, when you smoke a doobie, a pipe or a bong, even after holding in your hit for say, 10-15 seconds, you are still exhaling about 75% + of the smoke and THC you combusted in your hit. No matter what, you waste a signifigant amount of THC with the standard combustion method. Also, a lot of the smoke in each hit is merely combusted plant material.

A vaporizer heats the plant material to the combustion point of the THC, but not the plant material itself. So each hit is as close to 100% THC as you can get. The result is heated and slightly burnt plant material, but no matter what, it still contains a small amount of left over THC. Not a lot, but I save it for rainy days or cooking. I wouldn't make butter purely out of spent vape materials, but I like to think I am making the most of my bud by adding it to my cannabutter.

Vaporizers are great, you can pick up a nice one for $100 or less nowadays. Worth having in the collection.

 

[Woodsman]

woods,
its steep everywhere....and it works, not fast, but deadly....first you spray, they need a couple of hrs to dry before dark, so i used in the morning or evening, or the bathtub, and left the light on....at the same time, i watered with it...goes systemic....tastes bad, and works by disrupting the juvenile cycle, they are unable to grow the outer covering, so die off and cannot reproduce...it disrupts that cycle...i spray the green house with it, the screens and floor and door screens, no bugs all last summer....

tragedy in my eden today...lost 2 plants, the temps are too high...

and you can use up to harvest, but i usually quit before then and when they start getting buds...usually enough in the plant to carry thru to then...get the instructions for use off the internet...too darn small to read on the bottle... lavendar

So it's much more efficient than just spraying the neem oil on the plant, which washes off in a heavy rain.

Sorry to hear about your causalities L. The high temps, high humidity and large amounts of rain that I've had with this grow is the big player in most of my problems. Besides the stem borers that are still at work by the way as I find at least one or two on my daily inspections, I've noticed lately or at least for a couple of weeks now signs of nitrogen deficiency. Leaves going from pale to yellow. Mostly near the bottom, but also some large fan leaves in the mid level range. It was because of that phenomenon that I fed them last time with both veg and flower nutes. Hopefully the deficiencies have stopped. I removed a bunch of the yellow leaves today, so I'll be able to see if there is more yellowing.

Basically, when you smoke a doobie, a pipe or a bong, even after holding in your hit for say, 10-15 seconds, you are still exhaling about 75% + of the smoke and THC you combusted in your hit. No matter what, you waste a significant amount of THC with the standard combustion method. Also, a lot of the smoke in each hit is merely combusted plant material.

A vaporizer heats the plant material to the combustion point of the THC, but not the plant material itself. So each hit is as close to 100% THC as you can get. The result is heated and slightly burnt plant material, but no matter what, it still contains a small amount of left over THC. Not a lot, but I save it for rainy days or cooking. I wouldn't make butter purely out of spent vape materials, but I like to think I am making the most of my bud by adding it to my cannabutter.

Vaporizers are great, you can pick up a nice one for $100 or less nowadays. Worth having in the collection.

I should be probably be using one of those. It's easier on the lungs, correct?

 

[Odin]

I should be probably be using one of those. It's easier on the lungs, correct?

Much easier on your lungs. I rock the Vaporbrothers. Had mine for about 10 years. The high is a little different too, I believe the burnt plant smoke does add something to the high, the vaporizer high feels "pure" in a sense. The Volcano is by far the best one, but I have a hard time justifying $500+ for any kind of smoking device, vaporizer, bong or otherwise. For about $100 you can get a glass on glass Vaporbrothers. There are a lot of knock offs but I like to go with the OGs.

 

[lavendar]

i agree with odin....vaps are better for you, and i also agree, it is a diff. high, but then you're not igniting or firing off the cbn's and all the other usable cb-somethings....i have a volcano, and its great, but too bulky for how we live...just no where to sit it or tuck it away in a travel trailer...dont work, so it ends up in a cabinet...so i use a portable vapir...i like it now, at first i wasnt sure tho...it hass a good battery pk, so is portable...which is nice...im not raising a family, we dont go out, and all of the other expenses people have that are younger, so our garden ect. is our guilty delight...i still smoke a pipe once in a while, well at some point every day actually, but a real guilt trip is i still like joints...like to save the roaches, and every new years eve. i roll one out of them...total killa...also probably very bad for the lungs...what i get a kick out of is some of them are like rocks from all the resin...they also make a pipe that is kinda a vaporizer, and it isnt bad, but the balance is all wrong for me...our mmj resource center has a smoking room, so can try out alot of stuff in there....learned alot there....
as for the butter, this is where i'll probably get grief....i put in 4oz of bud shake to 1 lb of butter....that way i can dilute the butter more when i cook, and the taste isnt sooo strong....now if i could get that green color out...great in olive oil too...enough rambling...L

 

[lavendar]

yeah, i forgot to tell you....this is so far an awful yr...too wet, humid, hot, dry, fires, draught ect....i know alot of outside growers that are trying to put in a second crop as the first rotted out....and the heat is getting the inside growers....bad yr. for crops...
and as far as i'm concerned, the azamax is worth every penny...it works...it seems to repell from alot of directions, plus fouling up the maturation cycle...so i would use thru soil and spray at first....L

 

[OldMedMan]

Hey Buddy I just bought 4 oz of Asamax on eBay for $21.95 including shipping. I have few critters taking big bites out of my leaves and leaf worms.
Let's kill em all!

 

[holysmokey]

hey wood soma has a way that he devolpes air roots n he also does trim the roots if i recall the airroots are like when u can see a trees roots above the ground or like mangrove swamp trees there are few vids around the net

 

[Woodsman]

Much easier on your lungs. I rock the Vaporbrothers. Had mine for about 10 years. The high is a little different too, I believe the burnt plant smoke does add something to the high, the vaporizer high feels "pure" in a sense. The Volcano is by far the best one, but I have a hard time justifying $500+ for any kind of smoking device, vaporizer, bong or otherwise. For about $100 you can get a glass on glass Vaporbrothers. There are a lot of knock offs but I like to go with the OGs.

Thanks buddy for your great advice on the vaporizers. One day I will have to get one. I don't know how long my lungs will hold out!

i agree with odin....vaps are better for you, and i also agree, it is a diff. high, but then you're not igniting or firing off the cbn's and all the other usable cb-somethings....i have a volcano, and its great, but too bulky for how we live...just no where to sit it or tuck it away in a travel trailer...dont work, so it ends up in a cabinet...so i use a portable vapir...i like it now, at first i wasnt sure tho...it hass a good battery pk, so is portable...which is nice...im not raising a family, we dont go out, and all of the other expenses people have that are younger, so our garden ect. is our guilty delight...i still smoke a pipe once in a while, well at some point every day actually, but a real guilt trip is i still like joints...like to save the roaches, and every new years eve. i roll one out of them...total killa...also probably very bad for the lungs...what i get a kick out of is some of them are like rocks from all the resin...they also make a pipe that is kinda a vaporizer, and it isnt bad, but the balance is all wrong for me...our mmj resource center has a smoking room, so can try out alot of stuff in there....learned alot there....
as for the butter, this is where i'll probably get grief....i put in 4oz of bud shake to 1 lb of butter....that way i can dilute the butter more when i cook, and the taste isnt sooo strong....now if i could get that green color out...great in olive oil too...enough rambling...L

yeah, i forgot to tell you....this is so far an awful yr...too wet, humid, hot, dry, fires, draught ect....i know alot of outside growers that are trying to put in a second crop as the first rotted out....and the heat is getting the inside growers....bad yr. for crops...
and as far as i'm concerned, the azamax is worth every penny...it works...it seems to repell from alot of directions, plus fouling up the maturation cycle...so i would use thru soil and spray at first....L

Great info also L on the vaps! I don't think I would want to haul around a 'box' that large! Do you get the same taste of the bud that you do burning it? I'm also a joint person from time to time. Depends on my supply. I do the same thing you do. I save all the raoches and put them in old prescription med containers. I've still got roaches from the stuff I grew two years ago outside! I'm starting a new collection of the NL smoke now also.

I'll look into the asamax when I can.

Hey Buddy I just bought 4 oz of Asamax on eBay for $21.95 including shipping. I have few critters taking big bites out of my leaves and leaf worms.
Let's kill em all!

I think your Hawaiian bugs will loose in a battle with these bastards I've got! But I'm sure the stuff would work!

hey wood soma has a way that he devolpes air roots n he also does trim the roots if i recall the airroots are like when u can see a trees roots above the ground or like mangrove swamp trees there are few vids around the net

Thanks for the info Holy. I'll have to look for that info. Thanks Holy for lookin out for me!

 

[OldMedMan]

Hi Buddy
Check your email!

 

[Barry Manilow]

Hey guys great info as always. At what point in the plant's life-cycle do you use asamax? I'm in a constant battle with bugs too but I'm also hopefully just a few weeks from harvest.

Lav what do you mean about the balance being all wrong with vape pipes? I've had my eye on them.

 

[BootUmAll]

Basically, when you smoke a doobie, a pipe or a bong, even after holding in your hit for say, 10-15 seconds, you are still exhaling about 75% + of the smoke and THC you combusted in your hit. No matter what, you waste a signifigant amount of THC with the standard combustion method. Also, a lot of the smoke in each hit is merely combusted plant material.

A vaporizer heats the plant material to the combustion point of the THC, but not the plant material itself. So each hit is as close to 100% THC as you can get. The result is heated and slightly burnt plant material, but no matter what, it still contains a small amount of left over THC. Not a lot, but I save it for rainy days or cooking. I wouldn't make butter purely out of spent vape materials, but I like to think I am making the most of my bud by adding it to my cannabutter.

Vaporizers are great, you can pick up a nice one for $100 or less nowadays. Worth having in the collection.

Thanks for the info. I ask enough questions about growing and felt info on vaporizers, of which I had no clue, was superflous. Yet while lurking in the shadows here at the "Woodsman's" site I am accidentally edumacated.

 

[OldMedMan]

Thanks for the info. I ask enough questions about growing and felt info on vaporizers, of which I had no clue, was superflous. Yet while lurking in the shadows here at the "Woodsman's" site I am accidentally edumacated.

The other side of the coin.
Well, I dislike vapes . Unless you can buy the best forget it. I have a Vape one.
Which has all the bells and whistles, however it only goes up to 380 degrees.
400 and above is what you need. I have used it and used it, but have never been really stoned from it. A light buzz is it. But if put the left overs in a pipe and smoke it, it knocks me off my feet. So there is allot of thc that doesn't burn.
This is my own experience your results may differ.

 

[BootUmAll]

The other side of the coin.
Well, I dislike vapes . Unless you can buy the best forget it. I have a Vape one.
Which has all the bells and whistles, however it only goes up to 380 degrees.
400 and above is what you need. I have used it and used it, but have never been really stoned from it. A light buzz is it. But if put the left overs in a pipe and smoke, it knocks me off my feet. So there is allot of thc that doesn't burn.
This is my own experience your results may differ.

I don't intend on using or buying one OMM. I prefer a nice rolled joint. That provides the most flavorful experience. Wasteful? I guess so. But its what I like.

 

[lavendar]

Hey guys great info as always. At what point in the plant's life-cycle do you use asamax? I'm in a constant battle with bugs too but I'm also hopefully just a few weeks from harvest.

Lav what do you mean about the balance being all wrong with vape pipes? I've had my eye on them.

had to reread what i said...
there is nothing wrong with the vap. air or smoke...it is the physical size of the pipe in my hand...reg. pipe, beautiful look and it works great....but it has a bowl that screws in on top of the pipe and all of that so it makes it top heavy for me to tote around....the balance was purely a physical in hand thing....but the pipe design works great as far as vapor action....sorry, didnt mean to mislead you...and i do use mine in the bedroom...works great, as long as im not walking around....and what i meant about the vapir is that at first it has a plastic odor, but that is gone now and i would recommend any of the three of them highly....and much better for the lungs....lavendar

 

[Woodsman]

Hi Buddy
Check your email!

Got it!

Hey guys great info as always. At what point in the plant's life-cycle do you use asamax? I'm in a constant battle with bugs too but I'm also hopefully just a few weeks from harvest.

Lav what do you mean about the balance being all wrong with vape pipes? I've had my eye on them.

I believe that L said that she stops it prior to harvest, I would imagine about the same time you are flushing your plant. Correct me if I'm wrong L.

Thanks for the info. I ask enough questions about growing and felt info on vaporizers, of which I had no clue, was superflous. Yet while lurking in the shadows here at the "Woodsman's" site I am accidentally edumacated.

I'm 'confusalated' myself!

The other side of the coin.
Well, I dislike vapes . Unless you can buy the best forget it. I have a Vape one.
Which has all the bells and whistles, however it only goes up to 380 degrees.
400 and above is what you need. I have used it and used it, but have never been really stoned from it. A light buzz is it. But if put the left overs in a pipe and smoke it, it knocks me off my feet. So there is allot of thc that doesn't burn.
This is my own experience your results may differ.

This is enough to make me stop and do more research if I were in the market!

I don't intend on using or buying one OMM. I prefer a nice rolled joint. That provides the most flavorful experience. Wasteful? I guess so. But its what I like.

My favorite way to smoke! When my supply is low, I will go only with the bowl and then as an emergency method, I have all those roaches from all the early premo buds that I rolled up!

Most of the time though I am smoking in a bowl. Used to be my ten year old 'corn cob' pipe (minus the stem which I remove immediately). Now I'm using my hickory pipes which smoke very nicely and do not interfere with the taste.

had to reread what i said...
there is nothing wrong with the vap. air or smoke...it is the physical size of the pipe in my hand...reg. pipe, beautiful look and it works great....but it has a bowl that screws in on top of the pipe and all of that so it makes it top heavy for me to tote around....the balance was purely a physical in hand thing....but the pipe design works great as far as vapor action....sorry, didnt mean to mislead you...and i do use mine in the bedroom...works great, as long as im not walking around....and what i meant about the vapir is that at first it has a plastic odor, but that is gone now and i would recommend any of the three of them highly....and much better for the lungs....lavendar

See this seems like too much of a hassle to smoke, I could see something like that beside the chair or next to the bed though.