Winter Weedy Wonderland - Auto Grow - Royal Queen Seeds

[4our8ighty0]

Whatever is happening to those leaves likely started 7-10ish days ago. The serrations look like RH plummeted on a day of 80+ degrees and VPD shot thru the roof. K looks like it got locked.

Is it the entire plant or just 1 or 2 nodes, and is it all plants or just one?

Did they possibly get really dry at the pots too?

Did you give them a good liquid feed last week with possibly a good does of calmag, or added Geoflora and calmag at the same time?

Can you get a good comprehensive photo shoot that shows the whole plants from both the sides and the tops, and a good selection of damaged leaves? When you first saw the clawing, it wasn't really nitro clawing, I just scanned back, it was leaf curl, which is usually a high dry VPD with too much light, or nute burn. The nute burn is quite often caused by high and dry, too much light, VPD. Try to see what you did about 4 days before that leaf curl.

Here it is on Jan 6th, if that's the same plant, see the tip curl? That's a nute thing, so New Year Eve/New Years Day-ish it likely happened.

I wouldn't cull them, I'd experiment with raising your brix and making them go away, but I am notorious for loving a good trial. It's going to be an adjustment from where you were to where LOS wants to be.

As long as brix are climbing and new growth looks healthy things aren't as ugly as those leaves.

I'd science thru this myself, it's common and many can learn from it. It's a great demo opportunity.

I agree for sure,LC absolutely has the skills to "science" thru this and would be fun to watch. On the brix thing,I'm still learning so here what I see,from L to R 18/12/4/16,some fuzzier than others. That's good numbers right ! Cept the 4 ,I think you said 14 or 16 is high brix zone?

 

[Lady Cannafan]

Whatever is happening to those leaves likely started 7-10ish days ago. The serrations look like RH plummeted on a day of 80+ degrees and VPD shot thru the roof. K looks like it got locked.

Is it the entire plant or just 1 or 2 nodes, and is it all plants or just one?

Did they possibly get really dry at the pots too?

Did you give them a good liquid feed last week with possibly a good does of calmag, or added Geoflora and calmag at the same time?

Can you get a good comprehensive photo shoot that shows the whole plants from both the sides and the tops, and a good selection of damaged leaves? When you first saw the clawing, it wasn't really nitro clawing, I just scanned back, it was leaf curl, which is usually a high dry VPD with too much light, or nute burn. The nute burn is quite often caused by high and dry, too much light, VPD. Try to see what you did about 4 days before that leaf curl.

Here it is on Jan 6th, if that's the same plant, see the tip curl? That's a nute thing, so New Year Eve/New Years Day-ish it likely happened.

I wouldn't cull them, I'd experiment with raising your brix and making them go away, but I am notorious for loving a good trial. It's going to be an adjustment from where you were to where LOS wants to be.

As long as brix are climbing and new growth looks healthy things aren't as ugly as those leaves.

I'd science thru this myself, it's common and many can learn from it. It's a great demo opportunity.

I did have an issue with RH going down earlier in the week, or over the weekend. That's why I got the bubbler going again. That is helping to get the RH climbing back up. I didn't have any days where they were too dry.

The last water/feed I added a little more geoflora, I believe it was suggested to do that. Then the Dolo dose a couple or three days ago which was a day later from the regular water/feed, the quart jar of mix from the concentrate per plant.
Yesterday was the molasses, or maybe the day before.

I have not done anything else, no fish ferts or anything yet.

I don't recall the leaves getting that edge issue and crispy, but the last few days has been so much concentration on those freaking bugs that I could have overlooked that.

The light. Vipar suggests 13.4 inches above the plants during flower and at 100%, The damn Goats that appear to be still in Veg, is supposed to be 26.2 inches above the plants. That's quite a difference in maintaining correct height for all of them.
I haven't had any trouble with following Vipar suggestions per their manual in the past.

The current leaf trouble is on only a few leaves, on just the one plant, Goat'lato 1.

 

[Lady Cannafan]

Also, these are 5 gallon pots. Just in case there was any question on that.

 

[Gee64]

I did have an issue with RH going down earlier in the week, or over the weekend. That's why I got the bubbler going again. That is helping to get the RH climbing back up. I didn't have any days where they were too dry.

The last water/feed I added a little more geoflora, I believe it was suggested to do that. Then the Dolo dose a couple or three days ago which was a day later from the regular water/feed, the quart jar of mix from the concentrate per plant.
Yesterday was the molasses, or maybe the day before.

I have not done anything else, no fish ferts or anything yet.

I don't recall the leaves getting that edge issue and crispy, but the last few days has been so much concentration on those freaking bugs that I could have overlooked that.

The light. Vipar suggests 13.4 inches above the plants during flower and at 100%, The damn Goats that appear to be still in Veg, is supposed to be 26.2 inches above the plants. That's quite a difference in maintaining correct height for all of them.
I haven't had any trouble with following Vipar suggestions per their manual in the past.

The current leaf trouble is on only a few leaves, on just the one plant, Goat'lato 1.

Did any food or environment events occur between Dec 30 and Jan 2? That's probably when this started, by the timeline in your leaves on Jan 6th.

 

[4our8ighty0]

I did have an issue with RH going down earlier in the week, or over the weekend. That's why I got the bubbler going again. That is helping to get the RH climbing back up. I didn't have any days where they were too dry.

The last water/feed I added a little more geoflora, I believe it was suggested to do that. Then the Dolo dose a couple or three days ago which was a day later from the regular water/feed, the quart jar of mix from the concentrate per plant.
Yesterday was the molasses, or maybe the day before.

I have not done anything else, no fish ferts or anything yet.

I don't recall the leaves getting that edge issue and crispy, but the last few days has been so much concentration on those freaking bugs that I could have overlooked that.

The light. Vipar suggests 13.4 inches above the plants during flower and at 100%, The damn Goats that appear to be still in Veg, is supposed to be 26.2 inches above the plants. That's quite a difference in maintaining correct height for all of them.
I haven't had any trouble with following Vipar suggestions per their manual in the past.

The current leaf trouble is on only a few leaves, on just the one plant, Goat'lato 1.

Spider mites also cause excessive drying of leaves,they suck plant juices,poop n pee everywhere and web. I think wat your seeing isn't 1 issue but multiple issues compounding each other.You have taken too good a care of these ladies for it to be anyone thing alone,I been watching whole time lol I'm betting it's minor issues feeding off each other

 

[Lady Cannafan]

Did any food or environment events occur between Dec 30 and Jan 2? That's probably when this started, by the timeline in your leaves on Jan 6th.

I need to go back through my notes and posts here to recall what has happened...or not happened. LOL I'm sure the humidity was an issue, we had a seriously cold temperature week during that time, and I believe that's when the humidity started getting tough to keep up there.

Seriously considering putting up that 2nd light in a different room with the two Goats.
I'll ponder that after my headache goes away. LOL

And what are you doing here? Not that I don't appreciate your thoughts, but you're supposed to be enjoying an Island adventure, If I remember correctly.

 

[Lady Cannafan]

I'll be back later on with those VPD numbers. Gotta get Mom to the Doc.

 

[Gee64]

I need to go back through my notes and posts here to recall what has happened...or not happened. LOL I'm sure the humidity was an issue, we had a seriously cold temperature week during that time, and I believe that's when the humidity started getting tough to keep up there.

Seriously considering putting up that 2nd light in a different room with the two Goats.
I'll ponder that after my headache goes away. LOL

And what are you doing here? Not that I don't appreciate your thoughts, but you're supposed to be enjoying an Island adventure, If I remember correctly.

leaving now

 

[Carmen Ray]

Gotta get Mom to the Doc.

Sending all the healing vibes! Is this a routine thing or something different? Keep safe.

 

[Waywardwayne]

Omg 11 brix on the goat so frustrating.

Perhaps a lite foliar for the two lower brix will help at this point until the stuff you’ve done takes effect. The mycos won’t become active for a week maybe two.

Just throwing the foliar out there, as it can be a pretty much instant hit for the plants.

 

[Lady Cannafan]

Omg 11 brix on the goat so frustrating.

Perhaps a lite foliar for the two lower brix will help at this point until the stuff you’ve done takes effect. The mycos won’t become active for a week maybe two.

Just throwing the foliar out there, as it can be a pretty much instant hit for the plants.

Foliar, as far as bug control?
Also, just to be sure you knew...those readings were this morning about two hours in to lights on. Planning another brix reading at 5 p.m. (10 hour mark), just because I want to see any differences.
I just went in and used a bunch of stem clips to get the tops down again on the Goats. The stretching continues.

 

[Lady Cannafan]

Sending all the healing vibes! Is this a routine thing or something different? Keep safe.

Something new, but we aren't taking chances on anything. Last thing she would need is another ICU stay with pneumonia and all of the complications that brought on with it.
She has a sinus infection, got antibiotic meds for it. A relief that it isn't lungs, but she's still pretty uncomfortable.

 

[Lady Cannafan]

About how long will it take, or should it take, to see any effects from the Dolo water addition?
If this was answered before, sorry.....