Winter Weedy Wonderland - Auto Grow - Royal Queen Seeds

[Lady Cannafan]

Calcium looks good, and you said your moisture was good, so that means O2 is good, so carbon is next. Is the one reading 7 the cold one with the high VPD?

The 11 is almost there. If it's the 1.4 VPD one, 1.4 VPD is a tad high for veg, so if you can get it to 1.2 she will relax her stomata a bit more and then more CO2 can get in, thus raising carbon input. Some liquid kelp if you have it will help destress them both.

The low reading one may also really benefit from the Dynomyco. They both will, but the low one likely far more.

No kelp. I did get my fish fertilizer though. Will that suffice?

 

[Gee64]

No kelp. I did get my fish fertilizer though. Will that suffice?

Fish ferts are always good. Kelp is always good too, and they are similar, but fish ferts lean more towards healthy myco, and kelp leans more towards the plant, but they both have a lot of crossover, so fish is the next best thing.

Fish ferts forte is helping myco, and kelp's forte is destressing plants. After that they are very similar for the rest of what they do.

 

[Azimuth]

And kelp is the super accumulator plant of them all. The broad range of nutrients across the world dissolve and end up in rivers that dump into the ocean where currents mix and distribute them around. Kelp accumulates and uses them to be the fastest growing plant on the planet!

 

[Waywardwayne]

Can I use kelp or seaweed straight from the ocean. I see it washed up on the beach when I go but I don’t know what it really is. And would I have to rinse the salt water before composting it?

 

[StoneOtter]

I need to find something better to put the balled up leaf in to keep it from spreading around.

That's where pushing and turning the ball to bruise it before actually giving it a good push for a drop is an important step. I move it 3 or 4 times and get it nice and juicy before I ask for a drop or two. Same outcome as Gee's ironman fingers.

Yeah, I remember reading that the other day too when I was looking for how to apply it.
Has anyone here done a root drench with the Myco?
I'm sure when I rebuild the soil, it will be useful too.

I did the other day. @DYNOMYCO makes Spark, a wettable powder.

 

[Lady Cannafan]

Soooo, Is all of this correct Brixing going to make spider mites go away too?
SOB, I just found some. I knew those flowering girls leaves were looking far too bad for just thrips.
I'm so disgusted!
I'm not going to spray neem oil on a flowering plant.

 

[StoneOtter]

I can say my summer grow outdoors last summer had no mites where it did on two consecutive summers before. One additional thing I used was BB beauvaria bassiana. It probably helped too so I can't say the level of brix they made did all the work.

 

[Gee64]

And kelp is the super accumulator plant of them all. The broad range of nutrients across the world dissolve and end up in rivers that dump into the ocean where currents mix and distribute them around. Kelp accumulates and uses them to be the fastest growing plant on the planet!

Very true Azi, over 70 different amino's and enzymes.

Can I use kelp or seaweed straight from the ocean. I see it washed up on the beach when I go but I don’t know what it really is. And would I have to rinse the salt water before composting it?

My bestie's Mom, who grows everything, including amazing Cannabis, only harvests her own, but she stops at a creek and rinsed it all in fresh water 1st, then hangs it on lines at home to dry, crumbles it, and it goes into everything. She actually wins contests for best garden on garden show tours that go from home to home.

Soooo, Is all of this correct Brixing going to make spider mites go away too?
SOB, I just found some. I knew those flowering girls leaves were looking far too bad for just thrips.
I'm so disgusted!
I'm not going to spray neem oil on a flowering plant.

Yeah likely on the low brixing one. Raising brix will deter them.

If you haven't used molasses yet you should. It's an instant boost in brix. She needs myco too, and badly. Think of her as an experiment now.

Really, brix is best built into the soil at cooking. I'll post you my soil recipe in a minute and you can decide if it's for you, but GeoFlora should be able to brix high too, so I'm guessing it's one of the big 5, and leaning towards carbon for both because of poor VPD, and microbes/myco as well for the 7 brixxer.

Did you ammend with Geoflora and cook for a couple weeks before potting? You need that to get ahead right out of the gate.

Also, a product called Gaia Green makes a 4-4-4 All purpose, and a 2-8-4 called Powerbloom, which is similar to Geoflora in composition, that both myself and @g-one-three use.

G13 uses it more and has it dialed better, so he's the keeper of the winning formula. Maybe he can weigh in here. He gets excellent brix with his mix of both parts.

All Rev's recipes are high brix too.

 

[Azimuth]

Soooo, Is all of this correct Brixing going to make spider mites go away too?
SOB, I just found some. I knew those flowering girls leaves were looking far too bad for just thrips.
I'm so disgusted!
I'm not going to spray neem oil on a flowering plant.

It should. Mites are found at lower brix levels than thrips so as your brix levels climb the mites should be the first to go. They were for me anyhow. At 10/11 I still get a few thrips but not the quantity or damage I had before.

Man, raising brix levels is like magic. Bugs go away, plant looks better both in color and because of no leaf damage from the little bastards, because it's healthier.

#BrixForTheWinBaby

 

[Azimuth]

Can I use kelp or seaweed straight from the ocean. I see it washed up on the beach when I go but I don’t know what it really is. And would I have to rinse the salt water before composting it?

You bet!

Best to first check your local laws as it's not legal to harvest it yourself in some places. Also it's best to gather the stuff found on the beach or floating in shallow water rather than ripping it from coastal rocks, ecologically speaking.

And try for a variety of seaweed/kelp if you can. You'll find broad, flat ribbons of bull kelp as well as rockweed, the stuff with what looks like little balloons that help it float. The latter from Northern Atlantic beaches is what's typically processed for kelp meal you can buy.

Seawater is great stuff used in small quantities. Some of the KNF recipies specifically call for seawater but too much salt's also not a good thing as it can accumulate in the soil. So, wash it off or leave it out for rain to rinse it for you especially if you're bringing it inside for use.

Kelp is one of the brown seaweeds, but there are many others that are very beneficial to our gardens. Seaweeds

 

[Lady Cannafan]

Thanks everybody. I'm starting to feel better. I was pretty freaking mad when I saw those webs. I had done a very fine mist to some leaves when I saw one of those tiny bastards, and those webs popped out like a fire cracker. Middle of the winter here, it's not like they came in from outside recently. Has me stumped. I don't have any house plants or herbs growing anywhere inside right now, other than those 4 plants.

I did do the Molasses this morning (I did about 1/2 tablespoon per gallon of the molasses I have), and will do the myco in two days for the next water feed. I think I'll poke a few holes today and just put the myco in and then in two days when I water again it will disperse?
I don't want to water again today because it's going to over saturate things.

 

[Lady Cannafan]

Very true Azi, over 70 different amino's and enzymes.


My bestie's Mom, who grows everything, including amazing Cannabis, only harvests her own, but she stops at a creek and rinsed it all in fresh water 1st, then hangs it on lines at home to dry, crumbles it, and it goes into everything. She actually wins contests for best garden on garden show tours that go from home to home.


Yeah likely on the low brixing one. Raising brix will deter them.

If you haven't used molasses yet you should. It's an instant boost in brix. She needs myco too, and badly. Think of her as an experiment now.

Really, brix is best built into the soil at cooking. I'll post you my soil recipe in a minute and you can decide if it's for you, but GeoFlora should be able to brix high too, so I'm guessing it's one of the big 5, and leaning towards carbon for both because of poor VPD, and microbes/myco as well for the 7 brixxer.

Did you ammend with Geoflora and cook for a couple weeks before potting? You need that to get ahead right out of the gate.

Also, a product called Gaia Green makes a 4-4-4 All purpose, and a 2-8-4 called Powerbloom, which is similar to Geoflora in composition, that both myself and @g-one-three use.

G13 uses it more and has it dialed better, so he's the keeper of the winning formula. Maybe he can weigh in here. He gets excellent brix with his mix of both parts.

All Rev's recipes are high brix too.

I appreciate that.
No, I didn't do any amendments with this FFOF. The only thing I did to it was adding more cal/mag during water/feed days because the past grow with it showed it needed more based on what was going on with leaves.

I cannot spend any more money right now. What I have here either has to work, or not. LOL
Not sure what I'm going to use for a soil on the next grow, but I'm thinking the FFOF is not for me. We'll see.
I'm not in a very positive frame of mind right now.

 

[Gee64]

I think I'll poke a few holes today and just put the myco in and then in two days when I water again it will disperse?

Perfect!

I don't want to water again today because it's going to over saturate things.

Low brix plants call the mites and thrips and such. They are programmed to commit suicide. Nature programs in a kill switch to leave the nutrients in the soil for healthier plants. Nature actually IS cruel, but for the purpose of evolution.

You need a sealed room with filtered air to keep bugs out of a low brix environment.

Thomas Dykstra on youtube has studied brix for years. His youtubes are both fun to watch, as he's a goofy bugger, and really informative, in a manner very easy to understand.

He has studied what pests like what brix and why very extensively. He also explains how raising brix drives pests away.

If you get bored....

 

[Gee64]

Glenn Rabenberg on youtube as Soilworks LLC is an extremely smart guy. The best there is, and calcium is his forte, but he does brix too, and collaberates with Dykstra as well, and is really easy to understand.

I highly recommend both. Rabenbergs hour long seminars are the best ones for info. Take notes. He's funny too so it's eady to watch. He has a way with words. The Forest Gump of soil.

 

[Waywardwayne]

Just let it go for a while, nothing will happen to the plants. Maybe read a story or listen to some tunes. Getting stressed is a sign step back for a minute and focus elsewhere. When you come back to it you’ll have fresh eyes and renewed optimism.


Clean house, read (or write, nonsense is a good start for that), music (singing and dance with mine, that’s optional though. My neighbors either can’t hear or don’t care!) paint?, call an old friend and disappear into their recent world for an hour or so.

Just don’t get upset with this stuff, you are very skilled in your grows and many other things too; and will balance this all out and get those multi legged fuckers out of the grow, just steady as she goes towards the goal.

Thinking about your other hobbies and talents you might even decide to make a fancy cake today or other cooked delight. Or pull out a photography project you’ve procrastinated to start on or try.

Just dont let this stuff get to you.

 

[Gee64]

My favorite soil recipe

5 gal ewc
5 gal used soil
5 gal carbon (organic coco is best but ancient forest products are great too.)
5 gal perlite

20 gals recycled soil mix from above
2 cups prilled dolomite
1 cup blood meal
.5 cup fossilized high P bat guano
.5 cup glacial rock dust
3 cups feather meal
3 cups bone meal
1.5 cups greensand
.3 cups SRP
2 cups organic basmati rice*
1 cup gypsum
3 cups kelp meal
2 cups alfalfa meal
1 cup oyster shell flour

*the rice is important, myco loves it. Make sure it's organic, that way it's not GMO, again vitally important.

 

[Gee64]

I pulled a 26 brix with this recipe and regularly stay over 20 brix. Cook it for at least 1 month, but 2 is better.

The higher brix your used soil portion is, the faster it gets to high brix on the rebuild. It just gets better and better.

 

[Waywardwayne]

@Gee do you mean peat moss when you say ancient forest products. I’m thinking of peat mix next grow instead of coco.

 

[Gee64]

@Gee do you mean peat moss when you say ancient forest products. I’m thinking of peat mix next grow instead of coco.

I'm not a huge fan of just peat, it doesn't rebuild well, I'm thinking more like a mix of peat and decomposed wood like foxfarms ocean forest.

I use a local product called The Answer, which is peat, composted bark mulch, and a touch of perlite.

Coco is tops tho, it is mathematically perfect as a carbon density source, and breaks down into a high K nutrient. Make sure it's organic tho, but it's expensive.

 

[Gee64]

Another good one is a product called Seasoil.