Derbybud
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Who Let The Dogs Out? Chem Comparison Grow!
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Lime=calcium carbonate and I usually go with good old dolomite. I understand many, such as build a soil, think there's too much Mg in dolomite. And suggest oyster shell and gyp. Idk, my plants love it.
The reason for the other choices are many.
First tho is short - medium - long term Ca availability.
Plants will use up a lot of Ca and not very much Mg.
Eventually you get an Mg toxicity that looks like a Ca deficiency and treat it with Cal/mag. Which only helps for a short while then you back in the vicious circle with even more Mg in the soil.
You can use the dolomite - I wood just use it 1/2 and 1/2 with say Oyster shell flour.
Here's my current Chemdawg in flower - about 3 weeks so she should be done by the time this grow gets going. I have several clones in various stages.
91 Star - top dawg seeds gifted to me by friend here.
Mis-labeled
91 Star in on the right in the back corner. She's still stretching.
91 Star - top dawg seeds gifted to me by friend here.
Mis-labeled
91 Star in on the right in the back corner. She's still stretching.
Mj76
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Well that sounds like a nightmare! I thankfully haven't experienced that scenario. I believe what they're talking about though is a specific cal mag ratio that microbes love the most. These ratios (theres others too) were first described by Dr Albrecht and are the foundation of the high Ca organic methods found these days. Including Doc Buds kit.
Mj76
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For anyone that doesn't know, what bobrown is talking about is this odd relationship between Ca and Mg. As Mg uptake increases, Ca uptake decreases. And vise versa. You should always add both to avoid the death spiral he described.
Damn! You have a fucking epic garden man. I love it! What strain is front and center there? A little to the left..Here's my current Chemdawg in flower - about 3 weeks so she should be done by the time this grow gets going. I have several clones in various stages.
91 Star - top dawg seeds gifted to me by friend here.
Mis-labeled
91 Star in on the right in the back corner. She's still stretching.
That tent is packed!Here's my current Chemdawg in flower - about 3 weeks so she should be done by the time this grow gets going. I have several clones in various stages.
91 Star - top dawg seeds gifted to me by friend here.
Mis-labeled
91 Star in on the right in the back corner. She's still stretching.
Mj76
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Mj76
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EastCoastGhost
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Some great looking girls you have, great job with them
Is your Copper Chem a Stardog cross?
Mj76
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Thanks Ghost. Yeah they're Chem 4 x (Chem4xChemD) My first totally Chem plants. They're really easy not fussy at all. A pleasure to grow.
I too have noticed that of my stardog cross. They’re typically not fussy ( I have met one of the fussy phenos) and they grow so damn fast it’s incredible. To this day I haven’t grow a strain side by side with my cookies and chem that has been able to keep up in vigor. You guys will see what I mean on Monday when I post another update.Thanks Ghost. Yeah they're Chem 4 x (Chem4xChemD) My first totally Chem plants. They're really easy not fussy at all. A pleasure to grow.
EastCoastGhost
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I can say the same thing about my Chem, last time I run them they outperformed the other two strains and this run I have one in there with 4 other strains and she’s ahead of them all so far. I’ve run them in coco and dwc, they do great in both. The only thing I have noticed about my chem is they like a little more calcium than a lot of strains but other than that mine are pretty easy to grow also
Yeah Im starting to realize the fussiness I got on one of my phenos the last grow is probably more from the cookies side of the genetic pool. She was more sensitive to nute concentrations as well as more prone to light stress. The other big big CnC that grow could take full power 240w cobs at like 16” and nearly 2000ppm feeding.
Mj76
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Are you running the s1 from csi?
Derbybud
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Just stopping by today to say hi to everyone.
Hi!
Derbybud
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You speak much wisdom MJ. This has been a thing for a long while now.
Was/is a huge reason we have Agricultural extension service in all states in the USA complete with soil labs to study this.
The big plant in the back center - on the left in the pic - she'd be 9' tall if my ceiling was that high.
Liquid Imagination - Blue Zkittlez x Jet Fuel Gelato
Hard to say where the size is coming from. I've ran 3 plants so far - all were tall. This #2 is pretty big. Dwarfing 91 Star which was a nice yielder for me last run. I got ~10 zips in the can which is not bad in 1/4 of a 4x4.
Liquid Imagination #3 is still stretching and no flowers - she's already at the lights ( ~7' ), super-cropped her 2 tallest stems this morning. She got mad. I tapped the crack. I was a little heavy handed.
Pic is taken by me standing there - plant over head high - Chems grow like that for me too. It's my damn old ass soil I keep re-using. lol