What is the shortest flowering 100% Sativa?

[Phillybonker]

I don’t believe it can be real. The words sativa and indica describe the plants’ morphology and nothing more. Sativas morph fast in veg and slow in flower. Period. These photos are a 1/2 oaxaca grown in a 1 gallon pot outside in Colorado at 8,000. Sativa pheno Balkh/Oaxaca from Swami Organic Seeds.

That looks a lot better than the Bokeo #2

I'm going to grow out Bokeo #2 anyway, or maybe Bushman Ciskei. I'm also a little skeptical of the flowering times but I guess there is only one way to find out.

 

[S Sam Hawk]

That looks a lot better than the Bokeo #2

I'm going to grow out Bokeo #2 anyway, or maybe Bushman Ciskei. I'm also a little skeptical of the flowering times but I guess there is only one way to find out.

They told me Future #1 would double in size in flower. This one quadrupled and got away from me. Like you said, “there’s only one way to find out.”

 

[Phillybonker]

They told me Future #1 would double in size in flower. This one quadrupled and got away from me. Like you said, “there’s only one way to find out.”

That girl is out of control

You've got your work cut out for you there

 

[S Sam Hawk]

That girl is out of control

You've got your work cut out for you there

I was afraid to cut on her too much after flipping her for fear of making her herm. I’m running three five gallon pots next time. LOL I have one of these tray2grow beds in the greenhouse with Fat Bastard in it. 3 cubic feet of buildasoil dominion blend should be enough medium starting this late in the year.

 

[Melville Hobbes]

That's is what got me wondering if their are any other quick finishing pure sativas.

Tropical sativas are adapted to a long flowering period, but some have adapted to shorter periods. Both in mountainous regions and at extreme northern edges of their natural ranges. That happened in Africa, and is happening in some other areas where feral plants have established breeding populations. Just look at ditchweed in the US. It's a low THC sativa cultivar.
Selective breeding takes things even further by breeding unusually fast phenotypes of a single strain to each other. That's what some breeders are working on, and some are succeeding. Without introducing indica genetics.
We've got to remember that these plants are living things, and evolution and adaptation are a lot faster for them since in the wild every year is a generation.

 

[S Sam Hawk]

Tropical sativas are adapted to a long flowering period, but some have adapted to shorter periods. Both in mountainous regions and at extreme northern edges of their natural ranges. That happened in Africa, and is happening in some other areas where feral plants have established breeding populations. Just look at ditchweed in the US. It's a low THC sativa cultivar.
Selective breeding takes things even further by breeding unusually fast phenotypes of a single strain to each other. That's what some breeders are working on, and some are succeeding. Without introducing indica genetics.
We've got to remember that these plants are living things, and evolution and adaptation are a lot faster for them since in the wild every year is a generation.

I’ve never seen a test on a pure sativa but here’s a test on Gascanastan’s Mazar/Guerrero which definitely has a lot of Mexican sativa. I’m guessing because no one grows them because they take too long. The Destroyer plant wasn’t worth testing. The punto rojo that took until Thanksgiving in the greenhouse was def worth testing but I didn’t for some reason.

 

[Melville Hobbes]

I’m guessing because no one grows them because they take too long.

Yeah, that's one reason there are breeders out there working on shortening the flowering period.
I've seen journals of guys growing Amnesia Haze where it went 24 weeks in flower.
And there are breeders who have selectively bred shorter flowering phenos of it. As I understand it that's how a breeder in the Netherlands bred Amsterdam Amnesia.
They want to make a commercially viable sativa. The licensed producers up here are controlled by investors focussed on profit, so any strain that needs an extra long flowering period is going to be pretty expensive. Shorten that, bring prices down, and you can capture a good portion of the customers who want a sativa.

 

[cbdhemp808]

I grew Green Mountain Grape 90% sativa from ACE about a year ago, in 6.5 gal. Regular seed. There were two phenos that I flowered, a green bud and a purple bud. The pots were way too small and they over wintered here in Hawaii, so the harvest was poor, and I had to harvest early due to bud rot. I harvested the green pheno in less than 7 weeks in flower, and the purple pheno at 7.5 weeks in flower. This was an amazing tropical sativa, with photosensitive males! Super vigorous growth. I had giant males in tiny pots! I'm using 10 gal. pots now for flower, so I'm sure the outcome could have been way better. If I tried this one again, I'd plant in the spring. ACE says of GMG, "fastest almost pure sativa of its quality".

 

[Justin Goody]

Check the Cannabiogen Destroyer and crosses of. I’ve never seen a real sativa finish fast but I ran a couple of theirs and they finished in 16 weeks. So you could veg for 2 months to total 6. If someone is telling you real sativas finish any faster I would beware. I ran a punto rojo from Cannabiogen and it finished around Thanksgiving. I don’t like sativas. Big plants with airbuds, every one I’ve ever tried. If they are real sativas they are not going to finish fast. This is a Destroyer in the photo. It should have yielded a pound and a half. I got 12.5 ounces out of it. Airbuds!

The Auto version is super dense.

How’s the smell on her? The auto was the strangest smelling weed I’ve ever had. Mellowest “Sativa” ever, too.

 

[S Sam Hawk]

The Auto version is super dense.

How’s the smell on her? The auto was the strangest smelling weed I’ve ever had. Mellowest “Sativa” ever, too.

I don’t remember what she smelled like but I threw the whole plant in the trim bucket. It yielded an average amount of concentrate. I have 6,000 watts of solar but I don’t run a lot of stuff after dark on my batteries so a 24/7 grow light is out of the question.

 

[cbdhemp808]

This exchange got my curiosity...

Check the Cannabiogen Destroyer and crosses of. I’ve never seen a real sativa finish fast but I ran a couple of theirs and they finished in 16 weeks. So you could veg for 2 months to total 6. If someone is telling you real sativas finish any faster I would beware. I ran a punto rojo from Cannabiogen and it finished around Thanksgiving. I don’t like sativas. Big plants with airbuds, every one I’ve ever tried. If they are real sativas they are not going to finish fast. This is a Destroyer in the photo. It should have yielded a pound and a half. I got 12.5 ounces out of it. Airbuds!

I forgot to mention I grow outdoors and with a 12-14 week finish I can't grow the Destroyer where I'm at, I can only do 9 weeks flowering at the absolute most and that's if I push the plants to their limits and eat the losses from mold, but usually we pull at 8 weeks.

I've never grown a pure sativa before but from what I've read long flowering and airy buds are characteristic of pure sativas. However, [Bokeo #2] apparently finishes in 6 months from seed to harvest and those come from The Real Seed Company who have a reputation for being honest. That's is what got me wondering if their are any other quick finishing pure sativas.

Anyway airy buds are fine with me because where I'm at high humidity and rain is a massive problem, dense buds trap moisture and rot out fast while airy buds survive a bit better.

I don’t believe it can be real. The words sativa and indica describe the plants’ morphology and nothing more. Sativas morph fast in veg and slow in flower. Period. ...

I replied in my thread, HERE.

 

[HashGirl]

I've done a lot of research and the shortest flowering 100% Sativa I could find was Bokeo #2 which apparently is 6 months from seed to harvest, however I have read some reports that it flowers late which I assume is because it is being grown in a very different environment than the one it is native to, this would mean it would take longer than 6 months from seed to harvest. But that is just from forum chatter I've read and there could be other reasons for Bokeo #2 flowering late.

So with that being said, does anyone know of a 100% Sativa strain that can match that finishing time - 6 months from seed to harvest?

Here is a list of the 100% Sativas that I know about in order of least amount of flowering days to most amount of flowering days. Please note that you can grow a 100% sativa in 6 months by shortening the Veg period but I typically do 2 months of Veg and 3 to 4 months of Flower.

 

[cbdhemp808]

I'm really curious about this broad subject of sativa vs. indica, genetics, landrace, and what it actually means to be 100% sativa or 100% indica. My observations HERE.