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[Liam300]

Hello! I’m growing Ice cream cake in a 5 gallon bucket using DWC method. It currently just entered week 4 of flower, this girl is a monster and has shown no signs of any issues and has taken pretty much anything and everything I throw at her. Yesterday I had to fill her up again so I switched the bucket for a fresh one and filled it 3.25 gallons of dechlorinated tap water then added floramicro (15ml)and florabloom (30ml)and (10ml) of cal mag and PH’d it to 5.9 as always. The ppm was sitting at 1150 which she has had no problem with before. This time I did remove floragro from the mix and something weird occurred. Im not sure if it has to do with removing the floragro but the upper leaves have began to have some bright reddish brownish spots scattered around. It’s not on all the leaves but concentrated on a few of them. Besides the spotting she is still very happy and doing well for now. I have to fill her again tomorrow as she is chugging over a gallon a day now. I didn’t want to jump the gun on anything and the problem didn’t seem to progress much today, but I’d like to address it quickly. If anyone has any idea what’s going on here let me know cause I’m out of ideas. Thanks!

So the plant hasn’t showed any further signs of spotting on any leaves. I went ahead and did another defoliation this one was heavier. A lot of bud sited were being blocked by some huge fan leaves. She’s looking healthy and happy and I’ve been squashing as many thripes as I can! I didn’t have a chance to dop by the hydro store to pick up some silica blast so I ordered some that’ll be arriving tomorrow. I just refilled her today so probably Tuesday I’ll add the silica in the mix. I must say I’m pretty excited after the trimming cause the bud sites are looking and smelling nice.

 

[OldMedUser]

Got some nice sugar on the larger leaves going on there. Have you got some kind of dry sift screens to collect that treasure?

 

[Liam300]

Hello! I’m growing Ice cream cake in a 5 gallon bucket using DWC method. It currently just entered week 4 of flower, this girl is a monster and has shown no signs of any issues and has taken pretty much anything and everything I throw at her. Yesterday I had to fill her up again so I switched the bucket for a fresh one and filled it 3.25 gallons of dechlorinated tap water then added floramicro (15ml)and florabloom (30ml)and (10ml) of cal mag and PH’d it to 5.9 as always. The ppm was sitting at 1150 which she has had no problem with before. This time I did remove floragro from the mix and something weird occurred. Im not sure if it has to do with removing the floragro but the upper leaves have began to have some bright reddish brownish spots scattered around. It’s not on all the leaves but concentrated on a few of them. Besides the spotting she is still very happy and doing well for now. I have to fill her again tomorrow as she is chugging over a gallon a day now. I didn’t want to jump the gun on anything and the problem didn’t seem to progress much today, but I’d like to address it quickly. If anyone has any idea what’s going on here let me know cause I’m out of ideas. Thanks!

I do not have any screens but I would like to get some come harvest time cause I’d like to press some rosin. I’m big on concentrates I mainly use wax so I’m pretty excited.

 

[Liam300]

Got some nice sugar on the larger leaves going on there. Have you got some kind of dry sift screens to collect that treasure?

Hey quick question for ya, the silica came in today. I haven’t really tried using any pk boosters during flower before cause I’ve had great results without them. Would you recommend using any additional nutrients during weeks 4-8 of flower ? I’m just running the GH 3 part set with some cal mag and it’s working wonders. Although if I could increase yield by a bit why not, just wanted to hear your thoughts on them before I go and buy a bottle or 2.

 

[OldMedUser]

Hey quick question for ya, the silica came in today. I haven’t really tried using any pk boosters during flower before cause I’ve had great results without them. Would you recommend using any additional nutrients during weeks 4-8 of flower ? I’m just running the GH 3 part set with some cal mag and it’s working wonders. Although if I could increase yield by a bit why not, just wanted to hear your thoughts on them before I go and buy a bottle or 2.

Most P/K boosters are too high in P to continue using after the stretch period tho many keep dumping it in afterwards. I add a half dose of Big Bud a week before flipping to flower then the other half at the flip then use half doses for each feeding until the end of week 5 for a 9 week plant. Big Bud is 0-15-35 with 10%S, 20 amino acids and ascorbic and citric acids.

The plants want more K than P after the stretch period and greatly reduced N tho they still need some. If N is getting too low that's easy to see as older fan leaves start turning yellow as the plant steals N from the older leaves to supply itself. After week 5 this is something you want to see then you know the buds won't be overloaded with N and maybe burn or end up with that 'chemical' taste tho I think high P levels have more to do with that than N. Too much N does retard flowering so that's the main reason not to give too much in later flower.

After the stretch I switch to feeding Lucas Formula style. I use the AN 3-part that's formulated just like the GH so it works the same. Don't use the Grow at all and use one half the amount of Micro as Bloom. So a 0-1-2 ratio is what you want to use. Epsom Salts are good to use too as the plant wants more Mg than Ca and the extra S in the salts helps boost resin and terpene production. Most strains really fatten up the buds in the last two weeks so flushing early like many do is counter-productive. As long as you're not overfeeding all through flowering then just switching to plain water for the last few times.

 

[Liam300]

Most P/K boosters are too high in P to continue using after the stretch period tho many keep dumping it in afterwards. I add a half dose of Big Bud a week before flipping to flower then the other half at the flip then use half doses for each feeding until the end of week 5 for a 9 week plant. Big Bud is 0-15-35 with 10%S, 20 amino acids and ascorbic and citric acids.

The plants want more K than P after the stretch period and greatly reduced N tho they still need some. If N is getting too low that's easy to see as older fan leaves start turning yellow as the plant steals N from the older leaves to supply itself. After week 5 this is something you want to see then you know the buds won't be overloaded with N and maybe burn or end up with that 'chemical' taste tho I think high P levels have more to do with that than N. Too much N does retard flowering so that's the main reason not to give too much in later flower.

After the stretch I switch to feeding Lucas Formula style. I use the AN 3-part that's formulated just like the GH so it works the same. Don't use the Grow at all and use one half the amount of Micro as Bloom. So a 0-1-2 ratio is what you want to use. Epsom Salts are good to use too as the plant wants more Mg than Ca and the extra S in the salts helps boost resin and terpene production. Most strains really fatten up the buds in the last two weeks so flushing early like many do is counter-productive. As long as you're not overfeeding all through flowering then just switching to plain water for the last few times.

A lot of useful tips that I wasn’t aware of. I really appreciate you’re insight my friend. I will implement the Lucas formula style starting from now. Today is day 28 of flower I’ll show some updates in a week or 2! By the way she’s a 8-9 week strain. Again thanks for the info!

 

[Liam300]

A lot of useful tips that I wasn’t aware of. I really appreciate you’re insight my friend. I will implement the Lucas formula style starting from now. Today is day 28 of flower I’ll show some updates in a week or 2! By the way she’s a 8-9 week strain. Again thanks for the info!

Today’s day 35 of flower, she’s been fattening up and the tops of the buds are turning purple. The smell is reallyyy nice inside the tent as well. She’s got 2 weeks left the next pictures will be when she’s ready to harvest! As of now I’m going with the traditional hang dry and mason jar cure method,Any thoughts on other drying/curing methods ? I want her to stay as sticky as possible.

 

[013]

Looks frosty, nice work man

 

[Liam300]

Today’s day 35 of flower, she’s been fattening up and the tops of the buds are turning purple. The smell is reallyyy nice inside the tent as well. She’s got 2 weeks left the next pictures will be when she’s ready to harvest! As of now I’m going with the traditional hang dry and mason jar cure method,Any thoughts on other drying/curing methods ? I want her to stay as sticky as possible.

Looks frosty, nice work man

So the time has come, this Sunday I will be chopping her down. I started flushing a week ago and the colors have poured in tremendously a lot of purple leaves it’s really beautiful. I’m going to go with the traditional hang dry and then mason jar cure method. I wasn’t able to get rid of the thripe population so I guess I’ll just let them be ? Not sure what to do about them come harvest time. Besides that all good just wanted to show you guys how she finished up. Happy growing everyone!

 

[013]

Bud washing will remove insects & insect poop. It also makes your produce cure & dry more evenly. Before you begin the chop, get mini hygrometers for your jars, boveda or similar 62 rh humidity packs, paper bags for low and slow. Wash and sterilize your jars

split your harvest do 50% low and slow fridge cure and 50% traditional dry hang and into jars. Thrn you can compare and see which is better

Harvest Prep and Curing thread low and slow is a long thread but first page gets you going, bud washing is in here too.

 

[OldMedUser]

I wouldn't worry about the thrips. They don't like areas where there's any resin so they won't be in your trimmed buds. Might be some caught on sugar leaves but who really gives a flying f'k about that. Just a little extra protein if it goes to edibles and won't show up in scans of your oils so not a problem.

I would not bud wash those beauties!

 

[Liam300]

I wouldn't worry about the thrips. They don't like areas where there's any resin so they won't be in your trimmed buds. Might be some caught on sugar leaves but who really gives a flying f'k about that. Just a little extra protein if it goes to edibles and won't show up in scans of your oils so not a problem.

I would not bud wash those beauties!

Learned my lesson the hard way lol bud washed em and saw a lot lost tricombs at the bottom of the bucket, although it’s my fault from letting the buds touch the sides of the bucket, I won’t be using this method come next harvest it was a hastle. I just sent the clone of her I had in veg to flower and she’s a monster. Almost the size of the 1st girl come harvest time so I’m really excited for this next run. The cure has been coming along very well the jars are now stable at 62% RH and 69 degrees F. I have smoked some and I must say it packs an uppercut like Mike Tyson, not sure if it’s cause I’m used to smoking stuff from the dispensary but wow what a difference in strength and taste, very earthy almost vanilla kind of fruity flavor to it it’s amazing. I was able to get around 125 grams from her so a little over a qp for 1 plant in a 2.5x2.5 tent not bad in my opinion for such highquality bud. I have all the Trim and larf saved in freezer bags for when I’m able to get a press to make some wax. For now I’m smoking this ice cream cake and I’m very happy with the results thanks for all the help guys it means a lot, from one grower to another Happy growing!

 

[OldMedUser]

Nice harvest! Just started trimming up my two monkey Banana Kush. Disappointing yield but the bud looks great all trimmed up and the scissor hash packs a nice punch.

Going to plant some Heirloom Maui Wowie, (Cherry bomb Pheno), I just got soon as well as a few others yet to be chosen.

Good luck with the next batch!

 

[bluter]

Learned my lesson the hard way lol bud washed em and saw a lot lost tricombs at the bottom of the bucket, although it’s my fault from letting the buds touch the sides of the bucket, I won’t be using this method come next harvest it was a hastle.

makes no sense. trichomes are hydrophobic and oleophilic.

 

[Liam300]

makes no sense. trichomes are hydrophobic and oleophilic.

Some stems were longer than the bucket so a lot of buds were hitting the bottom pretty hard as well as the sides cause some stem were wide and I didn’t want to cut them up to small for drying. After the buckets settled for a day when I went to rinse them out I saw a layer of trichs at the bottom. I was also specifically told to not let the buds touch any edges of the container so I don’t blame the method it’s just not my style. The buds eventually came out amazing but this run I won’t be doing it again and we’ll see the difference. I started up a journal in progress called ice cream cake grow journal if you want to check it out!

 

[OldMedUser]

makes no sense. trichomes are hydrophobic and oleophilic.

They get knocked off with rough handling and fall off to sink to the bottom. Not unlike how bubble hash is made but then you want to knock them off.

 

[bluter]

always thought temperature had as much or more to do with bubble hash and dry ice methods.

weed grows outdoors. it wouldn't be so popular if what we wanted washed off in the rain.

 

[OldMedUser]

always thought temperature had as much or more to do with bubble hash and dry ice methods.

weed grows outdoors. it wouldn't be so popular if what we wanted washed off in the rain.

Bubble hash is made with ice or dry ice to make the trichomes brittle so they break off when you beat the crap out of the buds with a mixer. I use the same physics when I go into my just above freezing mud room to dry sift my sugar trim that has been sitting in the freezer. much better yield than when it's all warmer.

Summer rains tend to be warmer thus the trichs stay supple and not being water soluble they stay put.

Some trichs will fall off when the plant is good and ripe so some of his came off in the wash. Gentle agitation should help lose less.