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[zigzagman1960]

today we are done with lollipoping and huge defolition, the mars hydro fc-e 8000 are by 45% and it‘s under 400W. the plants loot so amazing with the UV Bar are it‘s insane.. there in flower week 2.

nutrients are only from livingsoilfertiziler. (reaper) every 2 week‘s nutrients and one week only water..

Have you got 4 more tents ready to pitch to accommodate all that.

What’s the point of stripping those plants? Have you done it before? Are you going to tell me it’s to let the light hit the buds that would typically be shaded? Did you read 3 a light? The amount of small weak branches that you already have are going to quadruple from defoliation. You’re going to need to support the milions of tiny buds. Gonna be a nightmare to trim too. Yield will be affected.

 

[Beginner86]

I was confused... when I saw this photo, I thought the plants were older and in bigger pots.

What size are the pots? It seems there are way too many plants in the tent.

36 x7l pot‘s it‘s was all clones and 2 weeks veg.

 

[Beginner86]

Have you got 4 more tents ready to pitch to accommodate all that.

What’s the point of stripping those plants? Have you done it before? Are you going to tell me it’s to let the light hit the buds that would typically be shaded? Did you read 3 a light? The amount of small weak branches that you already have are going to quadruple from defoliation. You’re going to need to support the milions of tiny buds. Gonna be a nightmare to trim too. Yield will be affected.

have a trim pot.. look in few day‘s she‘s are in flower week 2 and 9-10week‘s they need..
and i have clone the mother plant few times

 

[Pat Puffer]

Well I have pulled quite a few clones myself and I learned a valuable lesson. Always have clean snips. I lost a few clones and plants I took the cuttings from for not having an ultra clean blade.

The twisting and puckering at the veins has presented itself when I didn't sterilize my cutting instrument.

...but that mosaic look was what over took my cuttings and plants one time. They never recovered and it's like it worked itself systemically through out the entire plant.

Now I am not saying this is what you have or what happened to you. My question would be did you use a clean cutting instrument when executing your cuts? Just looking clean isn't enough. After my incident I became over the top with sterilization. I would have rubbing alcohol at the ready and routinely wipe the blade after every cut. Let the blade dry out between cuts. Cuttings don't like the alcohol either.

I didn't have a fresh blade one time and used an old one. The juices of the cannabis plant has a way of rusting that razor blade super quick. Even after a couple cuts on a fresh blade I can see the effects of the contact.

After the incident I went out to Lowe's and bought one of those tall packs of blades and had a fresh one everytime. They come covered in cutting oil, but I just clean it off with rubbing alcohol and go about my business.

I hope your cuttings come out okay.

 

[cbdhemp808]

36 x7l pot‘s it‘s was all clones and 2 weeks veg.

OK, so they are 1.8 gallon pots. And why so many in the tent? I mean, you should have like maybe 5 in 5 gal pots. If they were small autos, then maybe 3 gal pots. But I think you said they are not autos.

 

[Beginner86]

OK, so they are 1.8 gallon pots. And why so many in the tent? I mean, you should have like maybe 5 in 5 gal pots. If they were small autos, then maybe 3 gal pots. But I think you said they are not autos.

last time‘s with smaller lamp gives a good yield. now i try with the new mars hydro. and yes it‘s femi (watermelon zkittlez and lsd) both from barney‘s farm… the little pot size is for the short veg time with my method i can harvest 3-4 times a year with bigger pot. 2-3 maybe i don‘t know. with small pot‘s last time‘s are more main cola‘s… last grow with 2x 250ndl i got try 500-600g dry. and 25g bubble hush… i try with the new lamp the 2 pound grow…
and the new dry nutrients are amazing…

only 3 of them to give plant all they need… before i use advanced nurtients grand master full set and this is expensiv… now i can give her less From advanced and more dry nutrients… i‘m look how it‘s look in few week‘s

 

[cbdhemp808]

last time‘s with smaller lamp gives a good yield. now i try with the new mars hydro. and yes it‘s femi (watermelon zkittlez and lsd) both from barney‘s farm… the little pot size is for the short veg time with my method i can harvest 3-4 times a year with bigger pot. 2-3 maybe i don‘t know. with small pot‘s last time‘s are more main cola‘s… last grow with 2x 250ndl i got try 500-600g dry. and 25g bubble hush… i try with the new lamp the 2 pound grow…
and the new dry nutrients are amazing…

only 3 of them to give plant all they need… before i use advanced nurtients grand master full set and this is expensiv… now i can give her less From advanced and more dry nutrients… i‘m look how it‘s look in few week‘s

Are you saying that last time, you had 36 plants in 1.8 gal pots, and you got over 600g dry? That's about 1.3 lb.

You know, if you grow in larger pots, the plants are going to be larger, and have more buds and bigger buds. You don't even need to have a longer veg time.

RE: femi... feminized? I was talking about photoperiod plants vs. autoflowering plants.

The best indoor grow I've seen on this forum is @gwhunran's Maui Wowie hydro grow last year – he got about 1 lb from 3 plants, and very high-quality buds. I think his Panama grow was even more impressive – over 2 lb from 3 plants.

Your setup looks something like a hydro grow, except you're growing in soil and using drip irrigation, and aren't using a reservoir. Are you also feeding using the drip irrigation? Where is your runoff going?

 

[Beginner86]

Are you saying that last time, you had 36 plants in 1.8 gal pots, and you got over 600g dry? That's about 1.3 lb.

You know, if you grow in larger pots, the plants are going to be larger, and have more buds and bigger buds. You don't even need to have a longer veg time.

RE: femi... feminized? I was talking about photoperiod plants vs. autoflowering plants.

The best indoor grow I've seen on this forum is @gwhunran's Maui Wowie hydro grow last year – he got about 1 lb from 3 plants, and very high-quality buds. I think his Panama grow was even more impressive – over 2 lb from 3 plants.

Your setup looks something like a hydro grow, except you're growing in soil and using drip irrigation, and aren't using a reservoir. Are you also feeding using the drip irrigation? Where is your runoff going?

i grow maybe 1-2 year‘s , i mean with femi photoperiod plant‘s…

so u say that one plant in a 10 gallon pot need two week‘s in growphase to grow big enought to give more thank in my 1,8gallon?

i make pictures every week to update you… and next run i can try i have some huge pots think arround 30-35l and then i can get my own… my first plant look‘s so in a small pot.. i have yesterday bring one out for outdoor maybe i can it show but outdoor i have no experiens

i have a 35l reservoir with rain water and a ppm with 5-6 and ph i down with biobizz to 5,8-6,2


for any tip and help i‘m thanksfull and learn much more becaus it‘s the best hobby to look it grow

 

[cbdhemp808]

so u say that one plant in a 10 gallon pot need two week‘s in growphase to grow big enought to give more thank in my 1,8gallon?

I didn't say 10 gal... just 5 gal. I'm not saying specifically 2 weeks... just grow them up until you want to flip them. The time required depends on the strain you are growing, amount of fert used, and light intensity. I'm saying that any plant will grow better in 5 gal than 1.8 gal, over a given length of time. BUT... you are somewhat mimicking a hydro grow w/ reservoir, so that is different than a pure soil grow – I'll let others more familiar with this chime in.

i make pictures every week to update you… and next run i can try i have some huge pots think arround 30-35l and then i can get my own… my first plant look‘s so in a small pot.. i have yesterday bring one out for outdoor maybe i can it show but outdoor i have no experiens

I have lots of experience growing outdoor in greenhouses, and using night interruption lighting to control flowering.

i have a 35l reservoir with rain water and a ppm with 5-6 and ph i down with biobizz to 5,8-6,2

Do roots come down into the reservoir? Do you recirculate the reservoir? What is the ppm in the rez?

for any tip and help i‘m thanksfull and learn much more becaus it‘s the best hobby to look it grow

I agree! Best hobby watching them grow!

 

[SmokingWings]

today we are done with lollipoping and huge defolition

Lollipop is done to produce a shape. What was done was a "Huge Defoliating".

What’s the point of stripping those plants? Have you done it before?

As "zigzagman1960" asks, why defoliate that way and have you done this before?

How long will it take the plants to replace all the missing leaves so it can get back to a healthy level of photosynthesis?

 

[Beginner86]

I didn't say 10 gal... just 5 gal. I'm not saying specifically 2 weeks... just grow them up until you want to flip them. The time required depends on the strain you are growing, amount of fert used, and light intensity. I'm saying that any plant will grow better in 5 gal than 1.8 gal, over a given length of time. BUT... you are somewhat mimicking a hydro grow w/ reservoir, so that is different than a pure soil grow – I'll let others more familiar with this chime in.


I have lots of experience growing outdoor in greenhouses, and using night interruption lighting to control flowering.


Do roots come down into the reservoir? Do you recirculate the reservoir? What is the ppm in the rez?


I agree! Best hobby watching them grow!

Have a water tank and a newer spray system that transports water from my tank via hoses so that it allows me to water the 36 pots, have an oxygen ball and air pump that supplies the tank with fresh air which also produces a healthy water. it is only to make it easier for me to water.. roots only come out of the pots and then lie in the mat in the tent

root‘s are not come into the reservoir…


i need in future help by my outdoor grow.. i can you linked if i load in up


next time i can try bigger pot‘s wir 4-6 week‘s of grow before there go in flower.. and make a comparsion…

 

[Beginner86]

they get healthy with this mich defolition
get finish the 3. flower week from 10

they get startet now in the 4. week and they stretch it‘s near over

 

[Wastei]

Well I have pulled quite a few clones myself and I learned a valuable lesson. Always have clean snips. I lost a few clones and plants I took the cuttings from for not having an ultra clean blade.

The twisting and puckering at the veins has presented itself when I didn't sterilize my cutting instrument.

...but that mosaic look was what over took my cuttings and plants one time. They never recovered and it's like it worked itself systemically through out the entire plant.

Now I am not saying this is what you have or what happened to you. My question would be did you use a clean cutting instrument when executing your cuts? Just looking clean isn't enough. After my incident I became over the top with sterilization. I would have rubbing alcohol at the ready and routinely wipe the blade after every cut. Let the blade dry out between cuts. Cuttings don't like the alcohol either.

I didn't have a fresh blade one time and used an old one. The juices of the cannabis plant has a way of rusting that razor blade super quick. Even after a couple cuts on a fresh blade I can see the effects of the contact.

After the incident I went out to Lowe's and bought one of those tall packs of blades and had a fresh one everytime. They come covered in cutting oil, but I just clean it off with rubbing alcohol and go about my business.

I hope your cuttings come out okay.

Mosaic virus is beyond rare. 90% of all the samples turn out negative in Cannabis. I rip my clones with my hands, fingers and nails and never have any problems.

People make cloning way harder and complicated than it has to be. Cloning should be the easiest part about growing. I use a few drops of bloom nutes and bleach in my cloner with 100% success rate and the plants stay green and healthy all the way through rooting and transplant.

No dome, no misting, no high rH, no high temps and roots in 5-7 days.

 

[StonedCrumpet]

@greenvein clones alot. Maybe youve be come up against some of these issues bro?

 

[Greenvein]

near the second week after cloning

Looks normal, if near the second week and still no roots it will take some food from its stores for energy. Looks like too much light for cloning and what's the humidity in there? If it's low you should be misting them often. If that's your only way to clone I'd stick domes over them and have them tinted or some kind of mesh material over them for shade.


Half My plants just rooted in 10 days and the other half will probably be a couple of days.. I have 640w lights and on minimum I have to shade my clones. 22 clones in home made cloner.

 

[Beginner86]

Do you still have any ideas on how I can get the humidity down? It is in the evening and at night at 70-80% and during the day at 60% the temperature is constant at 22-24° I ran all night today after the big dehumidifiers and it was at 65% the night .... I can't get it to the 45-55%

 

[cbdhemp808]

I'm not an indoor grower, but here's my 2 cents...

You ran your dehums in the tent overnight and the RH only came down to 65%?

How can RH be 60% during the day, in the tent, and then increase to 70-80% during the night, if the dehums are running in the tent, and the tent is closed up?

Do you have the tent open for cooling? (Sorry if you already explained this.)

 

[Wastei]

I'm not an indoor grower, but here's my 2 cents...

You ran your dehums in the tent overnight and the RH only came down to 65%?

How can RH be 60% during the day, in the tent, and then increase to 70-80% during the night, if the dehums are running in the tent, and the tent is closed up?

Do you have the tent open for cooling? (Sorry if you already explained this.)

Because the dehumidifier cannot keep up with the spike in RH% during lights out? With less heat there's less extraction being made in a controlled system hence less moisture is being extracted during lights out.

 

[cbdhemp808]

I wonder what the temp is at night in the tent. If more heat is needed at night in the tent, for the dehums to be more effective, he could possibly place something in there to serve as a thermal mass – something to absorb the heat during the day and release it during the night.

 

[Greenvein]

Do you still have any ideas on how I can get the humidity down? It is in the evening and at night at 70-80% and during the day at 60% the temperature is constant at 22-24° I ran all night today after the big dehumidifiers and it was at 65% the night .... I can't get it to the 45-55%

Sorry bud I've had a quick browse but getting mixed thoughts on your set up.. looks like you have alot growing over there and all looks healthy
how many rooms or tents do you have?
Are all your tents in one room?
Do you have a separate intake and exhaust room?