I'd have trouble responding to that... compliment(?) - aren't those the critters that the miners depend on to DIE in order to let them know the air is getting inhospitable?

I know... such a creative compliment... one just can't resist.
I look at it functionally. When the front line disappears, at the very least it's time to review your current position. I appreciate it. There's actually a website thing that seems to have gone by the wayside called a "canary"... just some sort of content to indicate problems and 'governmental involvement'. I'm unaware if they ever had one here or it's status.
 
I replied to this thread a couple days ago, twice, but managed to make my posts vanish both times so had to quit and wait for the fun levels to rise again before re-writing. Have to go harvest the latest f$$ked up Pineapple Chunk now then I’ll try to get to replying to what I’ve missed here.


"air layering." I

Not a bad idea, just to try something new. I have actually tried that method before but was never around enough to water the areas I was torturing and so they kept drying out.
Mostly I just meant... I don’t think I’ve had major trouble cloning this one specifically- I think it’s possible. Somehow the stars just haven’t aligned for me to get many clones of it. And all except this one clone from the first plant reverted to become non-variegated again.


The variegated cuttings Are a little harder to root though. The variegated portions just aren’t very vigorous. Those yellow leaves have no chlorophyl to speak of and they grow slowly- just dead weight from the point of view of the rest of the plant.

Actually I’ve had a little trouble cloning everything lately. The area I live in is a haven for all kinds of fungi and I have to sterilize my aero-cloner well before each round, then cross my fingers they will root within a couple weeks before they start to rot.Sterile isn’t really my specialty anyway... It sort of looks like the last round of cuttings has failed, but I still have hope so I’ll leave them a few more days.


I’m waiting to get a new batch of variegated shoots on it that are long enough to make cuttings from. It will take a while. On the bright side, the plant grows so slowly that it’s going to be quite a while before it’s ready to flower- so there’s no real panic yet.


That plant is something else. I have never seen anything like that.


I hadn’t either, at least in cannabis. Striking looking isn’t it? It was pretty obvious from the first set of true leaves that it was variegated,

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but I wasn’t sure it would stick.


By the way, when the cool-looking buds of that first one dried, they went kind of dirty and shabby looking. I’ve given away almost all that bud by now but sometime I’ll take a second look in good light and see how they look.

Spend a bad Winter making the rounds several nights per week to the dumpsters behind all the local restaurants, and you'll find that you can eat almost anything without a complaint


Around here is different and that way of life isn’t an option. There are a couple restaurants in the two closest towns I guess, not that I go to them much ever. Both towns are a fairly long drive away from me. But, after those two towns with restaurants is another hundred miles or so before the next town. I do totally relate to scavenging, but here the scavenging is of a different sort and there is a lot of wild food around. Even if you don’t have a garden or gun or fishing gear or boat or crab trap, pretty much anything that lives on the beach is edible and there is always something around at any time of year. I can’t really imagine a person starving here, even in the dead of winter. In the worst case shellfish are easily obtainable even in the worst weather, without working too hard.


Beyond that, there’s a thriving system of trade and gifting here, so what I can’t get myself, I can often trade things for, even if I’m broke. And it seems a natural thing for everyone to give away fish, game, buds, when they get plenty. It’s showing off as much as anything :). My grow is a prime example- I’m mostly growing for fun- I give away a ton and trade most of the rest.

I have vegetable gardens, there are endless things to pick, hunt, and harvest, so as long as I have a few staples like oil, flour, rice, sugar, coffee- I can pretty much fill in the blanks.

‘Weird’ food here usually runs to various forms of seafood, because like I said, almost everything that lives in the ocean is edible. My kid is pretty open minded about it all and we often end up choking down various unidentified slimy things, raw or cooked. ‘Look dad I found these little eggs under a rock- maybe some sort of snail’. He usually fries everything with garlic and butter then finds random wild weeds to serve with it....

This spring I made a visit to the store in town and somehow acquired a flu that nearly sent me to the gates of hell. A devastating experience. I’d been mostly holed up at home and hadn’t seen anyone who was sick. The only place I think I could have picked it up was at the local store. I picture a virus leaping off of a cheese bun when I passed through the baked goods section. If only I had a guardian fairy on my shoulder it may have yelled ‘watch out!!! That’s not cheese!!!’ :(

Made me even more leery of the mass produced human food and I try to eat closer to the earth whenever I can.
 
Have to go harvest the latest f$$ked up Pineapple Chunk

I love to see your harvest photos on them. While I feel your pain, the photos are always fun.

The variegated cuttings

If these very interesting plants showed up in my garden, I'd let their line pass away. They lack the chlorophyll and show the results of that. They sure are pretty tho! I can certainly understand running them some.

This spring I made a visit to the store in town and somehow acquired a flu that nearly sent me to the gates of hell.

In a world of tourists, I probably have a broader range of immunity than you. Differences in our world... fun to dig into. Sorry it worked out so poorly in your woods.
 
In a world of tourists, I probably have a broader range of immunity than you.

Knowing that you live in one of the busiest port cities on the planet, I'd tend to give you the benefit of the doubt on that statement, lol.

I have actually tried that method before but was never around enough to water the areas I was torturing and so they kept drying out.

If the plant's structure allows, you could always go with the lazy man's version of it - curve a branch down so that you can partially bury some of it (NOT the end, somewhere between its base and tip) in a separate container of soil. That'll give you a larger "moisture reservoir," and cannabis seems to grow roots in such circumstances at the drop of the proverbial hat, even without scraping it first (although that might speed things a little). You should be able to do this regardless of how you are growing the current plant (soil, soiless, or some form of hydroponics). You might need to weight the branch down somehow if the plant is recalcitrant. And, again, it depends on its structure - inflexible branches or a real "tight" structure would, of course, preclude this thing (although the former might be gotten around by angling the "mother" plant's container to make it possible for you to get the middle of a branch to the soil without snapping it, I suppose). Outdoors, it doesn't even always take burying - people have reported finding that branches have rooted simply from being in prolonged contact with the ground, even if not buried.

The variegated cuttings Are a little harder to root though. The variegated portions just aren’t very vigorous. Those yellow leaves have no chlorophyl to speak of and they grow slowly- just dead weight from the point of view of the rest of the plant.

That is an odd one. I don't see how it could be light-bleaching. I've only ever seen this once before, and that only in a picture when I was doing some web-search or other on a cannabis-related topic and ended up reading a thread at one of the "less friendly" forums. It looks cool, but... Well, I suppose if the plant requires more solar cells, it'll grow them ;) .

Around here is different and that way of life isn’t an option.

Adjust my statement to fit your environment, I suppose. Or use "if you get hungry enough, you'll eat almost anything that isn't still trying to kill you at the time," lol.

BtW, your area seems like a decent place to live, from your description. Other than the virulent cheese flu, of course (and the eating of slimy things - in terms of meat, I try to confine myself to only eating vertebrates, and ones that cannot be taught sign language, at that ;) ). Why is it that, when people get sick, they think it means they should immediately go to the store / restaurant / school / work / et cetera? I never understood the phrase, "misery loves company." When I'm miserable, I don't want to be around people. And, sure as the sunrise, I don't want to be around miserable people, regardless of whether I'm miserable or not.

Speaking of food-borne ills... Well, you couldn't easily do it, because you don't have local eateries. But for those that do - and who don't mind wasting a little money - go buy a random sandwich from every fast food joint around, immediately unwrapping and putting each one into its own Ziploc bag and sealing it. Wait a week or so, and count how many of those sandwiches now have maggots crawling on them. I heard on NPR once that the average is around 60% - which means that, on average, 60% of the sandwiches we buy from such places...

...come with a supply of fly eggs already in them :rolleyes: .

They say such critters are pretty high in protein, though. . . .
 
I love to see your harvest photos on them. While I feel your pain, the photos are always fun.

~PainApple Chunk~

This poor pathetic plant... I’m going to try to order more seeds of it tonight or tomorrow-this is getting ridiculous.

Some of the buds were half decent.






Spraying with 50% isopropyl did seem to slow down the mystery dry-mould problem it’s been getting lately.

But.... when all’s said and done -the plant looked like complete shit. Most of the bud will go to making hash. I’m only posting these ones cause it’s fun for Tead.





I might have got a couple ounces from it.
 
If these very interesting plants showed up in my garden, I'd let their line pass away.

It never would have occurred to me to do that. I guess I’m just a sucker for the weird ones.

curve a branch down so that you can partially bury some of it

Tried that too once. I even got some roots eventually but it takes a surprisingly long branch to reach the ground well enough to bury it and still have the tip sticking out a bit. I could arrange a separate pot on top of the main pot- but that gets awkward. Anyway- I’m having trouble getting variegated cuttings much more than 2” long.. I’ll just wait. I’ve ordered a new bulb for veg- long overdue. That should get things hopping.

QUOTE="TorturedSoul, post: 4188352, member: 62750"]That is an odd one[/QUOTE]

It’s a genetic mutation- more common in some species than others. I’m not sure how common it is with weed but apparently not very, since I haven’t noticed it on the forum. There are quite a few variegated houseplants out there for sale though you might not see it written that way on the label.

...there are a number of different types of variegation that look quite distinct, with completely different causes.

Chimeral Variegation

Chimeral variegation is the most common type of variegation. Caused by a genetic mutation, In this type of variegation, plants show two different chromosomal make-ups in a single plant, where some tissue is able to produce chlorophyll and other is not. The result is a plant with white or yellow zones intermixed with the solid green form — this kind of plant is called a chimera.

Sometimes, chimeral variegation is randomly spread out around the plant... where you see white or yellow patches and dots splashed around the leaves almost like they’re splattered with paint, while some leaves emerge entirely white and others entirely green. Alternately, sometimes chimeral variegation can be consistent throughout the whole plant, with symmetrical leaf patterns.

One important thing to note is that depending on the plant and the cause of the variegation, the variegated form may be stable or unstable. Unstable variegated plants may revert to their solid green form. Variegated plants may also be less vigorous; for example, leaves that emerge solid white are unable to photosynthesize, and so they typically don’t last very long.

One of the reasons that some variegated cultivars or species are hard to come by is that only certain plants with chimeral variegation can be propagated successfully from stem cuttings, and no chimera will come “true to type” (exhibiting the same phenotype — in this case, variegation) from root cuttings, leaf cuttings or seeds. This means that opportunities for propagating this type of variegated plant are limited, and often unsuccessful.

buy a random sandwich from every fast food joint around,

There aren’t any. :)
 
~Carnival cob~

Been smoking mainly this for the last couple weeks. I haven’t done any sort of side by side comparison with smoking the regular carnival but I’m guessing it’s about the same high, except the cob tends to be a smoother smoke for its age. I do think eating it would probably show a big difference.

I cobbed this one when pretty much green at harvest and it’s very dense like hash.

 
Sorry that PC fell short of expectations, Brother. Not sure how those buds turned out...I didn't really look at them...I was checking out all the great finger hash on the gloves! :yummy:
 
Every time I see a pair of gloves like that, they remind me of a button man I knew briefly back in the late '80s who wore black gloves pretty habitually. He told me that he was afraid he'd end up forgetting to put them on at a crucial moment, otherwise.

I guess we all have our little foibles. And he never got nailed - or shot, either, for that matter. Cancer punched his ticket.
 
Good idea. I think I’ll start wearing those gloves all the time :).
Actually I wasn’t expecting much at all from that PC, Mr K. I knew it was going to be a ravaged piece of crap and it pretty lived up to that.
I ordered more PC seeds today. Damn... a momentous decision after several years of trying to get rid of this strain. Lost this battle. But the war will continue.
 
Weas.... you got a PC problem man. Do we need an intervention here?
We could all dress as bears, hop a plane north, and raid your PC seed stash while we distract you with our intervention words. Of course, then we'd all just take the seeds home and develop our own PC addiction.... so.... maybe not such a great idea. hmmmm.... sounded better when I started.
 
GTx crack fast, 36 hours and tail.. PCx tennis balls no movement yet...
 
Well good luck. I’ve had enough success with filing the edges of older seeds that I think I’ll probably just file everything from now on, when in doubt. Which is most of the time, obviously.




 
Ha ha ha. Been there, done that, paid a big price. I can only laugh about that comment because- when all’s said and done, PC is just a plant. Thank god!
But I hear you. I feel the same way. I struggled for years literally, to avoid this decision, and now it’s come down to this. But wtf... now I’m totally looking forward to getting some new seeds. :rofl:
 
lol it’s like watching an abusive relationship. “You are going back to that abusive woman? Dude, I know she is sexy but she treats you like a servant.”

Lol at "but she treats you like a servant." That's not an abusive woman, that's just... a woman, lol.

You can tell the difference if/when you walk through the door and say, "Hi, honey, I'm ho--" and the crash you hear is some sort of dinnerware exploding against the wall six inches from your right ear. I don't think that's been routine behavior towards one's servants since the mid-18th century or so.

Sometimes, women annoy men. Likewise, sometimes, men annoy women. I think it's just a "people" thing. Doesn't really translate to the plant world.

Sorry, off-topic and all that.

I can understand you putting up with the issues you've encountered with the Pineapple Chunk. We find one we like, we overlook some failings. Then, when we cannot do that any longer, we make excuses for them. Okay, I guess some of it translates to the plant world ;) . An older friend who was in Asia at the tail end of the Vietnam war in the army, and later in another outfit, brought back some seed from several locations in the area. He'd labeled each little sack - country/region only, nothing like a strain name. I grew out and was really impressed with one of them - except for the tendency of all the "females" to pollinate everything around. I messed with it for quite a while. It almost seemed like the qualities I desired were irrevocably chained to the hermaphrodism trait. But, well... stubborn :rolleyes: . It wasn't until I quit dealing and started growing more or less for personal use (+ sharing) in my own home, in a small space, that I finally gave up. In its own space, it was annoying - in a space with other strains, it was untenable.

I still miss it from time to time, though. The things we're willing to take a beating for, huh?

I just realized I like looking at pictures of nice leaves more than I like looking at pictures of nice buds. I don't know what that says about me. Sure would like to see some more 13-fingered leaves, though.
 
Well it’s a sorry topic, at least on my end. I had the same thought when I read ‘treats you like a servant’. Sounds like heaven compared to what a real abusive partner can bring to the game. Yuck.

I’ve never had a thirteen bladed leaf. 11 is the most I get with some of the Thai ones.


 
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