VetSmoke Going Coco With The ViparSpectra XS2000

greenvein said:
Looking great vet, glad you got some improvement on the Rh if doing the other two drops it again definitely something to be shared. Has the white lights shown any flower yet? And how many tops does she have? I'm expecting nug of the month from her like Thor's hammer! 😂
Click to expand...
Just started showing a couple of pistils. Had zero training so she's gonna be one chunky little cola. I'll have to try and count how many nodes she has later. I know I'll have to watch her for mould.
 
I'm thinking phosphorus deficiency starting. The pH should be in range so I'd say it's either lockout or not enough. The Shogun feed chart has the A&B jump up to 14ml/5L for a couple of weeks, then dropping back down but adding in the PK Warrior. My gut says to try bumping the A&B up first.
PXL_20230404_070250637~2.jpg
PXL_20230404_070241178~3.jpg
 
3ml to L is hot mate for most strains i have found.
But i agree 1.5/2ml sounds like a plan.
My EC is around 1.6/8 ish now if that helps any
Tap water 0.4 hard water. ;)
 
Your gut seems to be right, glad the humidity has dropped a bit! Try bumping the A&B up may be helpful.:D
 
VetSmoke85 said:
I'm thinking phosphorus deficiency starting. The pH should be in range so I'd say it's either lockout or not enough. The Shogun feed chart has the A&B jump up to 14ml/5L for a couple of weeks, then dropping back down but adding in the PK Warrior. My gut says to try bumping the A&B up first.
PXL_20230404_070250637~2.jpg
PXL_20230404_070241178~3.jpg
Click to expand...
I'm gonna back your gut feeling vet..mainly as I've taken exactly the same route myself this week.
I'm around the same timing as you going in to flower, maybe a week a head. Last week I upped the npk a little (your a+b) . Then this week added a tiny bit of pk.
Sound advice from @Skunksta above. Don't go too mad as it's only a slight whiff of a deficiency. :thumb:
 
Skunksta said:
3ml to L is hot mate for most strains i have found.
But i agree 1.5/2ml sounds like a plan.
My EC is around 1.6/8 ish now if that helps any
Tap water 0.4 hard water. ;)
Click to expand...
I've been feeding 2ml/L for a couple of weeks now. Not sure whether to bump the A&B up or add a little PK Warrior early.
 
At 1100 ppm now.
 
how much mag you giving them.
2ml to L a/b should be the sweet spot for me anyhow in flower.
When i go to far over that most strains start to have a few issues for me.
VetSmoke85 said:
At 1100 ppm now.
Click to expand...
But my temps and r/h in my main space are never over 26c and rh never over 60.
I know the ladies in my other space wanted more mag/a/b as it was hotter and r/h higher.
 
Skunksta said:
how much mag you giving them.
2ml to L a/b should be the sweet spot for me anyhow in flower.
When i go to far over that most strains start to have a few issues for me.

But my temps and r/h in my main space are never over 26c and rh never over 60.
I know the ladies in my other space wanted more mag/a/b as it was hotter and r/h higher.
Click to expand...
I've just bumped the calmag up to 1ml/L. I might install the dehumidifier tonight then. Leave the feed as it is and monitor closely.

With the Autopots it says not to flush or feed from the top as it will force the build-up in the top layer of the media down into the rootzone and mess them up. But I'm half tempted to put them in the bath and give them a mega flush, then reset with the feed I'm on. If problems persist.
 
VetSmoke85 said:
I've just bumped the calmag up to 1ml/L. I might install the dehumidifier tonight then. Leave the feed as it is and monitor closely.

With the Autopots it says not to flush or feed from the top as it will force the build-up in the top layer of the media down into the rootzone and mess them up. But I'm half tempted to put them in the bath and give them a mega flush, then reset with the feed I'm on. If problems persist.
Click to expand...
Wont lie never used PK so unsure if its a replacement kinda for mag.
So you dont have to add as much when you use PK.
But me all of flower im around .0.8/1ml to L Mag will up if i feel they need it.
 
VetSmoke85 said:
I've just bumped the calmag up to 1ml/L. I might install the dehumidifier tonight then. Leave the feed as it is and monitor closely.

With the Autopots it says not to flush or feed from the top as it will force the build-up in the top layer of the media down into the rootzone and mess them up. But I'm half tempted to put them in the bath and give them a mega flush, then reset with the feed I'm on. If problems persist.
Click to expand...
Hopefully the extra food works for you bro I think I did see you took a pass on a step up in feed according to schedule.
The only thing I'm not liking is their basically saying the Coco is guaranteed to get salt build up on the top which isn't major when bottom feeding but if you was to re use it then it's extra work. The good thing about Coco is that it flushed so easily and can be reset like you said.. could do a slurry test to see how bad it is?
 
Are you going to use lifters to balance the canopy height? Also, plants really need very little phosphorus so I wouldn't go crazy adding a lot of that.
 
InTheShed said:
Are you going to use lifters to balance the canopy height? Also, plants really need very little phosphorus so I wouldn't go crazy adding a lot of that.
Click to expand...
Nope. I'd then have to mess around getting the Res higher since it's gravity fed. They'll just have to get what they get. 😂
 
I decided to dump 4ml extra of A&B in the res. See what happens. Mac N Cheese seems to be getting paler.
PXL_20230404_213808822~2.jpg
PXL_20230404_213823358~2.jpg
PXL_20230404_213828622~2.jpg
PXL_20230404_213837698~2.jpg
PXL_20230404_213850043~2.jpg
PXL_20230404_214039427~2.jpg
PXL_20230404_214043877~2.jpg
 
I gave the Blue Cheese a very minimal trim last night and fired up the dehumidifier. The RH has been 57-62% since then. Much better.
 
Need to get the Mac N Cheese a little greener. If this bump in A&B doesn't do it I might try to flush her. She has a pot cover now too.
PXL_20230405_214504085~2.jpg
PXL_20230405_214643524~2.jpg
PXL_20230405_214632405~2.jpg
PXL_20230405_214626428~2.jpg
PXL_20230405_214620133~2.jpg
PXL_20230405_214613918~2.jpg
 
I don't like the way this Mac N Cheese is going. I moved the light a bit higher last night and this morning the leaf angle on parts of her is almost vertical. Lol. Leaves are getting more yellow, tips burning and lower leaves bigger brown spots.
PXL_20230406_070303855~2.jpg
PXL_20230406_070348544~2.jpg
PXL_20230406_070310408~2.jpg
PXL_20230406_070338328~2.jpg
 
Sorry vet, that last post wasn't that helpfull..just thinking out loud.

You run similar to skunksta..nutes, media even similar water by the looks..
Only difference is you bottom feed.
That description of salt build up at the top of the pots doesn't sound a positive for coco? I always believed coco was best with run off to stop salt build up?
Running three different plants from one res also makes it slightly harder to get a balance.
 
Listersmeghead said:
Sorry vet, that last post wasn't that helpfull..just thinking out loud.

You run similar to skunksta..nutes, media even similar water by the looks..
Only difference is you bottom feed.
That description of salt build up at the top of the pots doesn't sound a positive for coco? I always believed coco was best with run off to stop salt build up?
Running three different plants from one res also makes it slightly harder to get a balance.
Click to expand...
Absolutely mate. I knew it would be a case of finding an acceptable balance over perfection. Maybe the Mac N Cheese is just ready for that addition of the PK Warrior now.

Indeed, coco in Autopots kinda goes against the general rule of always watering to runoff but they claim it's a good media to use in them and I've seen others do it successfully. I guess it's just not as common so I'll have to do more of my own trial and error to get it right. I won't hit the panic button just yet but I'm on standby to flush her. Probably add the PK Warrior on the next res top up and go from there.
 
Back
Top Bottom