Good morning Verb
I just realized I never came back to help with your ladies, sorry.
I've been swamped with everything going on in my grow.
Mites from hell.
Hey Bill! And no worries brother. Guessed the bloody pests keeping you busy.
Hope it turns out good - I can imagine how it would feel to dump most of your plants. I really do.
Your girls look fantastic though.
Still having a minor issue though?
BTW. What the heck is with you rooting Auto clones ?
Is it an experiment I missed the beginning of?
Because they look spectacular, but why ?
Thank you. And yes, still struggling with the same issue(s), as I believe theres a bigger lockout still happening.
Heh, decided to turn some of the branches into cuttings when I trimmed Barney's GG auto bottom foliage some weeks ago. I've tried it couple of times before with random plants and they never rooted. (without Kelp tho - and I've never used any cloning gels/other rooting hormones)
so wasn't expecting much. But as soon as I noticed some of them going to root thought it would be a fun to experiment with them!
Nonetheless I've been struggling with the biggrr GG's and their fertilization - I decided to '
temporarily' convert the clones into lab rats!
I really can't or dare to test any mad feed/nutrient ratios as the bigger plants are in middle of the peak bloom.
So I've been testing and experimenting different ratios with the clones and thought I'll share some of my 'studies' and discoveries here.
Inside the
yellow marked area you can see how they responded when tried to feed them with the same ratios as I did before with the older plants. Not too well.. Same kind of orange/brown spots appeared, tips and margins got burnt - just like the older plants.
And inside the
green area (thats pretty much the last ~7 days growth) I fed them 2.2ml/L CalMag & Micro, which is more than
@Remo Nutrients recommendation at full strength. No more brown or yellow spots appeared. The growth was looking nice and clean but the newest leaves started to take odd shapes and and leaves started hooking down, so we knew they got too much N - even tho Ca & Mg ratios seemed to be good.
The first experiment was done and two days ago ''flushed'' with new nutrient ratios the solo cups as I knew the amount of N in rhizosphere going to get toxic otherwise.
And here comes the weirdest twist… I measured everything when I flushed the solo cups. I've been feeding them at 1.7 EC / ~850ppm which is pretty high considering their size and root size.. And the runoff was on both cups showing 1.2 & 1.3 EC / 600-650ppm.
Look at the numbers - the clones definitely eating. The bigger plants in perlite Hempys getting only about 100-150ppm stronger feed and they don't like to eat at all.. Their runoff comes out like .1 EC higher after every watering.
6/11 - 6/14 during this time the clones got watered/fed once per day. About 300-350ml per time for 10-20% runoff. And the feed was at 1.7 EC / ~850ppm and pH'd always between 5.8-6
6/14/2022: 1.7 EC "flush" solution (same EC as before but new ratios with way lower CalMag & Micro dose) goes into solo cups and the runoff comes out at 1.2 EC & 6.3pH. As the EC is lower and pH bit higher than the input we could assume theyve consumed the nutrients.
6/14 and onwards I assumed theyre happy and eating a lot, so I decided to keep the Micro & CalMag dose low and hit them with little PK boost. 1ml/L Micro & CalMag, then Bloom and PK additives to get EC up to 1.9 (theyre getting 260-280ppm of Potassium and around 80-90ppm of Phosphorus now)
Mad high P&K values, just only in experimental vision
And it was for two reasons. If theres any excess N in rootzone giving them elevated P&K could balance N amount. And second to make it resemble almost the same as the feed received by larger plants. So that the results can be compared similarly with clones and larger plants.
Now the clones have been getting for two days almost 200ppm
higher feed than the bigger GG's inside the tent! And they seem to be doing pretty well. Today I noticed the bigger clone getting small dots to the leaves closest to lamp.
K:Ca ratio is higher than 4:1 so we can expect to see some Mg or Ca def symptoms.
But just amazing how the clones doing ’better’ than the bigger plants.
Heres the clones today:
We'll do the new runoff tests in couple days and compare the results with the bigger plants. As soon as all the plants has received steady feed for about 5 days.
Dude....go raid whatever funds you have left and buy a 2nd big air/carbon filter. Park it near your hallway door running 24/7 scrubbing air. That will keep the air near the door smelling clean.
Seriously- if you can do it today....don't put it off!!!!!
Hi Rexer! Heh a week ago I was thinking about 2nd scrubber as I'd have a weaker fan ready for it. But thought theres only tops 2.5 weeks left (I know wht you think about this way of thinking!!
) And how effective would that be for example near the front door in big open space?
Really would not want to buy a new filter as there is only couple weeks left and not gonna be able to use it even after this round anymore.
I listened to a girl in a podcast who successfully cloned autos, and kept them going several generations. She said there is diminishing returns, but it is possible to grow out several generations prior to having to pop another seed. Not sure on the accuracy, and I have no desire to try it...but it was interesting...
Also did a lot reading about the auto cloning and seems like some ppl have successfully cloned the sames autos more than couple of times.
But very little accurate info regarding is available. So I'm thrilled about these!
Shit what a post!
Still being blazed as hell from todays 4:20 bowl
THC Bomb is a sweet strain! Tastes amazing
Verb
Is it just in GG genetics??
And maybe the biggest factor cold water and cold rootzone. 
Guy (the left one) showing worse P- signs every day. Now the upper mid leaves starting to get yellow very quick and I believe that the right one also showing some P- now. Hopefully lower dose of Micro's have any effect. FYI. Runoff pH has started to drop 0.1 - 0.2 daily. Soon below 6
But I'll be catching up shortly!