Unsealed my cob today, after over 3.5 months

@CaptainLucky , you certainly won't regret it.

Golden Tiger makes an awesome cob, very strong indeed.

This morning I am about to eat 0.3g of Zacateca tribute cob that was made at the end of October.
The effects are very warm and sociable, similar to the actual weed but nicer (imho). I usually top up later in the day with a similar amount. 🚀
 
During the fermentation we can use different starting humidities, different temperatures and different ferment times to alter the effects, flavours, colours and taste.
Hey Hombre, You sound like you have a lot of good experience with cobs and making them.

I've only made them the one time, and it was tricky trying to choose at what point to put the buds into a cob. Too wet and early then you get quite a black cob, and not enough humidity in the bud results in a poor or null ferment. I let my plants dry as whole plants for 4 days when I trimmed them into paper bags on the 4th day and then made them into cobs on the 5th day. Next time I will be inclined only maybe hang dry them for 2 days and make them into cobs on the 3rd day. I live in a fairly high humidity location. I think Tangwena in a quite low humidity location and has to make his earlier. Do you have any suggestions on what is your ideal time is to wait until making into cobs?

Can you say a little about the time and preparation you take before making cobs. I whole plant dry which is slower than drying the plant cut into colas. Cheers.
 
@Stunger , it would be my pleasure!; in fact after being accepted into the brotherhood of cob makers, I was charged by Tangwena to "go out and spread the message to the world" and that's what I've been doing ever since.
As a result of this I've been gifted some absolutely wonderful Sativa genetics by cob makers from all over the world!

I've been making cobs now for 3 seasons, both for myself and also for a few friends.
When I first started out, I made the usual beginner's mistake of making them too wet.
I, like brother Tangwena also live in a very low humidity place (mountains of Southern Spain) and if I'm not careful to slow the drying down, I can dry weed to smokeable in about 1 week.

I like to wait until the weed is almost dry enough to smoke, about the time you would usually put it into a jar ready to cure (ie it would still require to be burped daily). You should be able to skin up with it but would need to constantly re light the spliff to keep it going.

If the weed is on the dry side (but not completely dry) it should still ferment, but it will take a lot longer.
The wetter the weed is at the start, the quicker the process will be but also the harder it is to control the process and the consequent results.

Once for buds are sealed up in their vacuum bag, I place them in a controlled temperature environment at somewhere between 35-45c (you can do higher but the process then will happen very quickly and you will have less control over the end result) for 12-24hrs. After this time I open the bag and generally I'll find that there is a noticeable dampness on the surface of the cob from the fermentation. I then let the cob sit in the open air until the surface of it is dry to the touch; this can take up to a couple of days. (There will still be a lot off moisture in the core of the cob.
We now reseal (and vacuum) the cob up again and place it somewhere warm for a week to slowly continue the fermentation. After a week, I take out the cob and smell it. If the smell is really sweet (You'll instinctively know, trust me) and you just want to keep sniffing it, then it done. Now dry it out almost completely, reseal and put away for aging at room temperature.
If however the smell is not quite there, we let the surface become dry to the touch before re vaccing and replacing in the warm for another week before checking again. We continue like this until we get the special fermented smell. It's a special smell that you'll instinctively know is right.

What we're trying to do by reopening and redrying weekly is to slow the ferment down and control it.
If the ferment happens to quickly it will destroy some of the terpines and you'll end up with a very dark, almost black cob. The effects of the dark cobs are more spacey, whereas the lighter coloured cobs are more speedy and retain a lot more terpines.

If the weed is on the drier side when starting out (but still moisture in the stems) then you don't necessarily need to keep opening and drying the cob, just chic the bag somewhere warm and forget about it for several months.

The cobs really come into their peak arbiter about 1 year but are good to smoke at any stage. It's a good idea to smoke a small piece at each stage to see how the effects change over time.

This morning breakfast cob.

50mg for Mrs DM, 0.35g for me and the remaining
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5g will be put in a jar for using over the next couple of weeks.
 
I currently have 8 different types of cobs in my collection and a couple of different ferments/cures on each.
They are all subtly and some not so subtly different. 😀

Making cob has completely changed my almost 50yr relationship with weed.

If you start to eat cob daily it has the effect of bringing one more into harmony with life. I know it sounds like "hippie shit" but most cob eaters will tell you the same.
 
Thank you for all this "Amigo"!!
It is my pleasure to spread the word.

This is not for everybody. The effects of eating cob are much more "spiritual" than just smoking it.
But for old timers who have been smoking for decades, then it's a way of being high as a kite all day without having to do anything other than chew a very small piece of cob in the morning and the totally different way of being high is so refreshing!.

The initial process is a bit of a leap of faith for some and they use only a small amount or worst still, airy fluffy buds; But most find once they've made a couple of cobs they prefer both the smoke it produces and the effects.

Cobbing will turn good Sativa into something even more special, but it won't turn crap weed into good.

"You can't make a silk purse from a sow's ear"
 
I'm guessing that it is too late to make a cob or two out of bud that has been jarred for 4 months????
I think I know the answer but.....
Sadly no. You need the live bacteria on the weed to start the initial fermentation. By doing it in a vacuum and reducing the moisture levels we exclude the chances for mould to grow.
I have successfully mixed 2 year old weed 50.50 with 3 day old dried weed and the process has worked, but I suspect the moisture in the fresh weed had saturated into the dry and the bacteria have multiplied. In fact it's my strongest cob! 2 yr old killer Malawi with fresh Super Malawi haze. Both outdoor organic grows. Kicks like shit and 20mg chewed will wipe out a novice.
Tomorrow I'll have some of that first thing!
 
I'm guessing that it is too late to make a cob or two out of bud that has been jarred for 4 months????
I think I know the answer but.....
Ive done it successfully. Bovida makes large 85% rh packs. I place 2 packs with a 1/4lb of dryed 58rh weed Sealed up for a few days until the moisture is distributed evenly throughout the weed. Then cob as usual for the desired effects.
I have some white widow that I’ve recently cobbed using this method.
 
Sadly no. You need the live bacteria on the weed to start the initial fermentation.
Ive done it successfully.
I think both of you are right! But here was what I was thinking....you know how you can use a salt mixture to check your hygrometers....the 75% rh...
What if I put a jar full of cured buds in with a small container of salt mixture, hence the 75% rh, for a few days.....

Please acknowledge my use of the word "hence" :laughtwo:
 
I think both of you are right! But here was what I was thinking....you know how you can use a salt mixture to check your hydrometers....the 75% rh...
What if I put a jar full of cured buds in with a small container of salt mixture, hence the 75% rh, for a few days.....

Please acknowledge my use of the word "hence" :laughtwo:
That's something i'm not aware of and I stand corrected as regards using dried weed although I'm a little unsure of the different humidities you guys talk about. I've always just done things by feel and experience. 😀.


It's certainly worth giving it a go. "Nothing ventured" etc etc.
 
I think both of you are right! But here was what I was thinking....you know how you can use a salt mixture to check your hygrometers....the 75% rh...
What if I put a jar full of cured buds in with a small container of salt mixture, hence the 75% rh, for a few days.....

Please acknowledge my use of the word "hence" :laughtwo:
i Wouldn’t. I would think the salt vapor would foul the weed.
 
@Stunger , it would be my pleasure!; in fact after being accepted into the brotherhood of cob makers, I was charged by Tangwena to "go out and spread the message to the world" and that's what I've been doing ever since.
As a result of this I've been gifted some absolutely wonderful Sativa genetics by cob makers from all over the world!

I've been making cobs now for 3 seasons, both for myself and also for a few friends.
When I first started out, I made the usual beginner's mistake of making them too wet.
I, like brother Tangwena also live in a very low humidity place (mountains of Southern Spain) and if I'm not careful to slow the drying down, I can dry weed to smokeable in about 1 week.
Thanks very much Hombre for your approach!
If you start to eat cob daily it has the effect of bringing one more into harmony with life. I know it sounds like "hippie shit" but most cob eaters will tell you the same.
No hippie shit just good shit!
I have successfully mixed 2 year old weed 50.50 with 3 day old dried weed and the process has worked, but I suspect the moisture in the fresh weed had saturated into the dry and the bacteria have multiplied. In fact it's my strongest cob! 2 yr old killer Malawi with fresh Super Malawi haze. Both outdoor organic grows. Kicks like shit and 20mg chewed will wipe out a novice.
Wow and that makes good sense too!
Ive done it successfully. Bovida makes large 85% rh packs. I place 2 packs with a 1/4lb of dryed 58rh weed Sealed up for a few days until the moisture is distributed evenly throughout the weed. Then cob as usual for the desired effects.
I have some white widow that I’ve recently cobbed using this method.
That's interesting that you've successfully got the buds up to 'cobbing humidity'.
i Wouldn’t. I would think the salt vapor would foul the weed.
We live by the sea and every storm, wind, rain, brings 'salt air' to my plants, and leaves salt residue on the windows, I am not aware of that causing issues for me, but worthwhile for sure to be mindful of it.
 
Hygrometer read 76% today so I will leave the buds in there for another day to see if they can soak it up. I have built some cob molds - three 1" x 3" and one 5/8 x 3" just to see if dia. makes any difference.
 
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