Sonzor
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Looks like you got that torture chamber working full force. Plants look like they are loving it also, very healthy looking plants. Great job...
Ultrasonic's 8-Strain DWC Spectacular
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ultrasonic
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*whipcrack* Ja ja *tortured background scream*
The quality of that camera I have is pretty disappointing: I'm going to try to get some shots of the more aggressive tying i've been doing: the plant shown in the first of the video is sortof doing the splits, and i've been tying it back so hard it started to pull itself apart!
*I'm givin' her all she's got captain! If I push her any harder - the whole thing will blow!*
Vertical growth quickly gets turned to horizontal, and the amount of shoots comin' up is gettin' mad.... very dense. And roots? Mmmhm. 2 more weeks till I -have- to flip to flowering.
The quality of that camera I have is pretty disappointing: I'm going to try to get some shots of the more aggressive tying i've been doing: the plant shown in the first of the video is sortof doing the splits, and i've been tying it back so hard it started to pull itself apart!
*I'm givin' her all she's got captain! If I push her any harder - the whole thing will blow!*
Vertical growth quickly gets turned to horizontal, and the amount of shoots comin' up is gettin' mad.... very dense. And roots? Mmmhm. 2 more weeks till I -have- to flip to flowering.
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Hells yeah drojo 
I wanted to post these pics: They are lookin a little bit nitrogen starved? I'm starting to think something may be locked out.... I'll be giving them a feeding tomorrow, and if the problem persists, i'll have to flush em I suppose. The ppms are slightly reduced, but not as much as I thought it should be (I could just be assuming too much). You have to look close too see the yellow spots: there's no color correction in this pic, and the sunpulse is coloring it a bit yellow.
Current ppms are 900-1000, and i'll raise to 1200 then add additives, which should raise it to 1300-1400ppm.
Super Lemon Haze
Strawberry Cough
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I wanted to post these pics: They are lookin a little bit nitrogen starved? I'm starting to think something may be locked out.... I'll be giving them a feeding tomorrow, and if the problem persists, i'll have to flush em I suppose. The ppms are slightly reduced, but not as much as I thought it should be (I could just be assuming too much). You have to look close too see the yellow spots: there's no color correction in this pic, and the sunpulse is coloring it a bit yellow.
Current ppms are 900-1000, and i'll raise to 1200 then add additives, which should raise it to 1300-1400ppm.
Super Lemon Haze
Strawberry Cough
Side by Side
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ultrasonic
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Hey yall- Another quick update. I altered my room setup a little bit:
-I re-arranged the bins and plants so more are in constant light. (2x2 instead of 1x4)
-I also moved my room's air intake so i'm now breathing outside air! Yay!
I gotta tell ya this: I was deep-frying, and decided to go quickly check on my plants: needless to say, it smelled like deep fry in a greenhouse. YUCK. No more sucking air off the floor of the room next door, hoping to get some fresh air from the cracked window across the room. I'm really looking forward to seeing the babies respond to this.
I have a question for those lovely individuals who are following this journal: After my veg cycle (under 2 more weeks) I plan on doing a good flush, then adding fresh nutes for flowering + calmag + liquid Karma + grozyme. My question is: is AN's Final Flush acceptable to use before flowering? I'm concerned it may be specifically designed for flushing after flowering. Opinions?
Thanks everyone! I'll be providing an update as soon as these damn batteries charge. -10 points for lack of foresight
-I re-arranged the bins and plants so more are in constant light. (2x2 instead of 1x4)
-I also moved my room's air intake so i'm now breathing outside air! Yay!
I gotta tell ya this: I was deep-frying, and decided to go quickly check on my plants: needless to say, it smelled like deep fry in a greenhouse. YUCK. No more sucking air off the floor of the room next door, hoping to get some fresh air from the cracked window across the room. I'm really looking forward to seeing the babies respond to this.
I have a question for those lovely individuals who are following this journal: After my veg cycle (under 2 more weeks) I plan on doing a good flush, then adding fresh nutes for flowering + calmag + liquid Karma + grozyme. My question is: is AN's Final Flush acceptable to use before flowering? I'm concerned it may be specifically designed for flushing after flowering. Opinions?
Thanks everyone! I'll be providing an update as soon as these damn batteries charge. -10 points for lack of foresight
Hey Ultra.. Maybe its jus me but the leaves don't look deficient to me. JMO 
. Outta curiousity why do you want to use AN FF? Jus to give em a really good flush or is there another reason? I wish i could chime in with advice, but I've never used FF.
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Dro
. Outta curiousity why do you want to use AN FF? Jus to give em a really good flush or is there another reason? I wish i could chime in with advice, but I've never used FF.-rep for no update (j/k
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Well this grow I'm doing a... I don't know what you'd call it exactly... a perpetual reservoir? The point is, i'm not dumping the old nutes out every 12 days, i'm topping them off with more while keeping the PH/TDS in check. Because of this, it's my understanding that it is best to give a good flush between veg and flowering phases. Apparently the reason is all the built up FLOWERING salts in the plant/solution that were not used in veg. Adding more on top without flushing - as I understand it - could create an abundance of salts that will cause a lockout/become toxic.
The only guy that was looking a little off was the Super Lemon Haze. It seemed like it's growth slowed down (could have been the ph- it was 5.3 for a couple days there) And it looked like her leaves were showing a yellow shine... Looking at them under flouro's, and it doesn't look as bad, but the biggest issue seems to be that they just generally look a little droopy and unhappy. That combined with slow growth made me think theres an issue: however, in the same bin, I have a THRIVING white widow plant. Like... the thing is getting out of control. So it can't be a nutrient lockout: I thinking the issue was that the SLH just didn't like the PH, where WW is much more forgiving to PH swings. Notice in the pics above how the SLH on the left looks sort of claw like and abit wrinkly?
Pics and vids today: why not.
*note- the reason why i'm asking about AN's FF is I noticed reading a florakleen (think that was the product... the GH flushing stuff) ad and it said that it was "safe to use in all stages". Then I starting looking at my FF bottle, and it seemed to exclusively mention flushing at the end of the cycle. I wanted to make sure that this wouldn't create a proverbial "molasses" situation. Heh.
**second note- about the SLH... I'm noticing that new growth doesn't seem as wrinkly, and actually looks quite nice. Any opinions about SLH and a low PH?
The only guy that was looking a little off was the Super Lemon Haze. It seemed like it's growth slowed down (could have been the ph- it was 5.3 for a couple days there) And it looked like her leaves were showing a yellow shine... Looking at them under flouro's, and it doesn't look as bad, but the biggest issue seems to be that they just generally look a little droopy and unhappy. That combined with slow growth made me think theres an issue: however, in the same bin, I have a THRIVING white widow plant. Like... the thing is getting out of control. So it can't be a nutrient lockout: I thinking the issue was that the SLH just didn't like the PH, where WW is much more forgiving to PH swings. Notice in the pics above how the SLH on the left looks sort of claw like and abit wrinkly?
Pics and vids today: why not.
*note- the reason why i'm asking about AN's FF is I noticed reading a florakleen (think that was the product... the GH flushing stuff) ad and it said that it was "safe to use in all stages". Then I starting looking at my FF bottle, and it seemed to exclusively mention flushing at the end of the cycle. I wanted to make sure that this wouldn't create a proverbial "molasses" situation. Heh.
**second note- about the SLH... I'm noticing that new growth doesn't seem as wrinkly, and actually looks quite nice. Any opinions about SLH and a low PH?
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YouTube - Plants #1
YouTube - Plants #2
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UPdate that! Too drunk for further explanation. You understand.
YouTube - Plants #2
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UPdate that! Too drunk for further explanation. You understand.
Cot damn, this was a mega update! First off the videos are very well done! 
And the plants look absolutely healthy and happy. I see the possible deficiency you were talking about, but I only see it on that one close up leaf. Unless you see it all over I wouldnt be worried. One or two leafs will always show deficiencies. Bro you've got that sucker dialed in. The end of the second vid was trippy, i was like yo is this dude runnin 3 bulbs. And that plasma shit looks freaky too. The stems on some of those are cartoon lookin. Great videos of gorgeous bitches & great pics of gorgeous bitches.. The owner of that camera is a very lucky person 
And the plants look absolutely healthy and happy. I see the possible deficiency you were talking about, but I only see it on that one close up leaf. Unless you see it all over I wouldnt be worried. One or two leafs will always show deficiencies. Bro you've got that sucker dialed in. The end of the second vid was trippy, i was like yo is this dude runnin 3 bulbs. And that plasma shit looks freaky too. The stems on some of those are cartoon lookin. Great videos of gorgeous bitches & great pics of gorgeous bitches.. The owner of that camera is a very lucky person
Sonzor
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Gosh, those plants look very nice to me, and if there is an issue going on there it is a very slight one that I am sure you will get under control. Looks amazing to me. Great job......
usul
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Love the pics and the video and the soundtrack Ultra! That quad res arrangement looks powerful. What I wouldn't give to have a whole room to grow in...
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Day 1 is Upon Us!
YouTube - White Widow Flowering Day 1
Ph 5.8
1600 PPM GH nutes/calmag/grozyme/liquidkarma
Girls are responding AMAZINGLY to their new air. I had to push my flowering date ahead a bit because they were growing so fast On a side note, Murphy decided to do a little supercropping on my Super Lemon Haze.... 4x clfs fell ontop of them over night 
The plant has responded well to the spontaneous training however
Otherwise all is well: These girls are actually smelling now. Before, I foudn the smell started to go away shortly before I started flowering, and never really came back. This time, I can clearly smell them, and I can tell the buds are gonna be stinky.
The SLH smells just fantastic. Can't wait for preflowers! Soon regular weekly updates will arrive, and I will be harvesting mid-May. Forgive my lack of updates during the generally uninteresting vegetative period And to Usul, Sonzor, and everyone else, thanks for being a part of this!
YouTube - White Widow Flowering Day 1
Ph 5.8
1600 PPM GH nutes/calmag/grozyme/liquidkarma
Girls are responding AMAZINGLY to their new air. I had to push my flowering date ahead a bit because they were growing so fast
On a side note, Murphy decided to do a little supercropping on my Super Lemon Haze.... 4x clfs fell ontop of them over night The plant has responded well to the spontaneous training however Otherwise all is well: These girls are actually smelling now. Before, I foudn the smell started to go away shortly before I started flowering, and never really came back. This time, I can clearly smell them, and I can tell the buds are gonna be stinky.
The SLH smells just fantastic. Can't wait for preflowers! Soon regular weekly updates will arrive, and I will be harvesting mid-May. Forgive my lack of updates during the generally uninteresting vegetative period
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Well I got home too late to snap updates for day 7 of flowering: but all is going GREAT.
A couple notes about progress:
-i've been watching the ph much closer, keeping it in the 5.8 zone. The plants are responding really well... I've seen only 2 leaves with some rusty spots on them, and i'm well into the stretch: little buds are starting to form at the tops.
-the SLH and Cough are CLEARLY under mature when compared to the WW clones. It's a shame, but at least i'll get some yield off them, and I'll know what sort of bud those strains will be able to produce.
-Running something like 1700ppm @.5... I'll do this for the next 3 weeks or more then i'll drop it a little, week by week. Regarding flushing, I'll probably use up my final phase and flush for 5-7 days.
-i've noticed some necrosis on the tops of some growth that is off the the side on the bottom, not getting much light at all. I'm attributing it to that for now: i'll be sure to snap some shots of it.
-at 8-9 days in, the stretch looks to be mostly done with. I actually removed THREE plants because they were under-preforming... The AMS, and 2 WW clones. They were just not getting any light, so no sense in keeping them. That leaves me at 11 plants: 3 of which are much smaller seedlings (the cough, slh, and 1 ww). I still hope to get at least a pound. Oh god I need to
I did a few upgrades to my space:
-moved a dehumidifier into the room which turns on when my exhaust turns on (which right now is only because of humidity... temps are 70-72F) This keep shiz at 40% RH, and brings in a nice flow of fresh air from outside, which my girls are lovin'.
-Plugged my light mover into the same timer as my light: now it's not moving all night when the lights are off.
-Raised the light up high, probably 14 inches. I had it at 10-12, which works really well, except it doesn't shine light on a very large area. Babies are loving the light, and I swear the nodes are even closer together this time. I'm looking forward to some fat, molasses free buds.
I'm thinking that next grow (which will be started probably 4 months after this one is finished) will be 4x plants in my 4x4 tent w/ co2 tank scrogged. I know under 1000w that will yield me enough. But I shouldn't be thinking forward yet! I just have to resist the urge to molasses it up, and i'll be golden! There are colas everywhere!
A couple notes about progress:
-i've been watching the ph much closer, keeping it in the 5.8 zone. The plants are responding really well... I've seen only 2 leaves with some rusty spots on them, and i'm well into the stretch: little buds are starting to form at the tops.
-the SLH and Cough are CLEARLY under mature when compared to the WW clones. It's a shame, but at least i'll get some yield off them, and I'll know what sort of bud those strains will be able to produce.
-Running something like 1700ppm @.5... I'll do this for the next 3 weeks or more then i'll drop it a little, week by week. Regarding flushing, I'll probably use up my final phase and flush for 5-7 days.
-i've noticed some necrosis on the tops of some growth that is off the the side on the bottom, not getting much light at all. I'm attributing it to that for now: i'll be sure to snap some shots of it.
-at 8-9 days in, the stretch looks to be mostly done with. I actually removed THREE plants because they were under-preforming... The AMS, and 2 WW clones. They were just not getting any light, so no sense in keeping them. That leaves me at 11 plants: 3 of which are much smaller seedlings (the cough, slh, and 1 ww). I still hope to get at least a pound. Oh god I need to
I did a few upgrades to my space:
-moved a dehumidifier into the room which turns on when my exhaust turns on (which right now is only because of humidity... temps are 70-72F) This keep shiz at 40% RH, and brings in a nice flow of fresh air from outside, which my girls are lovin'.
-Plugged my light mover into the same timer as my light: now it's not moving all night when the lights are off.
-Raised the light up high, probably 14 inches. I had it at 10-12, which works really well, except it doesn't shine light on a very large area. Babies are loving the light, and I swear the nodes are even closer together this time. I'm looking forward to some fat, molasses free buds.
I'm thinking that next grow (which will be started probably 4 months after this one is finished) will be 4x plants in my 4x4 tent w/ co2 tank scrogged. I know under 1000w that will yield me enough. But I shouldn't be thinking forward yet! I just have to resist the urge to molasses it up, and i'll be golden! There are colas everywhere!
usul
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Awesome update Ultra. Culling the underperformaing plants sounds like a good idea. Here's hoping you get a pound out of this grow - you're certainly set up for it!
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ultrasonic
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Thanks for the words usul Helpin to keep my spirits up: you're technically more experienced than I am right now, LOL.
I'll have to take a video/some snaps as soon as I can so I can show you all how much they've grown! it's crazy.
I'll most likely post on Monday (day 14)
peace!
Helpin to keep my spirits up: you're technically more experienced than I am right now, LOL.I'll have to take a video/some snaps as soon as I can so I can show you all how much they've grown! it's crazy.
I'll most likely post on Monday (day 14)
peace!
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ultrasonic
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Day 16 of my previous grow
Day 13 of my Current grow
This time around they seem to be slightly ahead. These were taken on day 13, so a couple days ago.
I'll attribute this to fresher air, and a properly adjusted ph (more 5.8-6.0, as opposed to 5.5-5.7) I've outlined the following... list of achievements.
Things I'd like to get past, from my previous grow:
Day 30: Obvious cal-mag issue on the biggest colas... was not providing ANY cal mag. Was, and am, feeding Lucas formula.
Day 35: The dreaded Molasses day. It was this day that the plants lost their ability to uptake water because of slime that was building up. Huge potential loss...
Day 52: Harvested a meager 4-5oz MAX. Sigh.
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Now, let me tell you, In my opinion, my plants were looking GREAT up until the molasses strike... observe:
I'm gonna feel some damn good in 2 weeks Plus, harvest time is right around my birthday! Yay... that, and the last episode of Lost, laugh
Day 13 of my Current grow
This time around they seem to be slightly ahead. These were taken on day 13, so a couple days ago.
I'll attribute this to fresher air, and a properly adjusted ph (more 5.8-6.0, as opposed to 5.5-5.7) I've outlined the following... list of achievements.
Things I'd like to get past, from my previous grow:
Day 30: Obvious cal-mag issue on the biggest colas... was not providing ANY cal mag. Was, and am, feeding Lucas formula.
Day 35: The dreaded Molasses day. It was this day that the plants lost their ability to uptake water because of slime that was building up. Huge potential loss...
Day 52: Harvested a meager 4-5oz MAX. Sigh.
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Now, let me tell you, In my opinion, my plants were looking GREAT up until the molasses strike... observe:
I'm gonna feel some damn good in 2 weeks
Plus, harvest time is right around my birthday! Yay... that, and the last episode of Lost, laugh
Cafghanica
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Great Job bro!
Just wanted to tell you that I would say AN's FF should only be used as a flushing agent the last 7 to 10 days of flowering and not as one may use florakleen but FF does have great advantages because in most cases you will really only use it for about 5 days and your plants will be completely flushed of the excess stored nutrients in there leaves etc and smoke much smoother. Also anytime you have a question about AN products call there tech support number 1 (800) 640-9605 (8am - 4pm PST) and ask for Roy there plant specialist explain your situation and he will tell you pretty much exactly what to do to rememdy a problem even if it means telling you to go buy a product they dont make or ask to speak to Terri if you have general questions about products same number. If your paranoid in anyway when you speak to roy just use your general terms (cutting,transplant,mother,flowering,veg,seedling etc) he will never ask you for your name or probe for the type of plant. And honestly its your best play if you ever have a problem that your not sure how to fix etc. because you do not really have to use any of there products of course I would recommend them but you can simply explain that you use GH this and Technaflora this and you have been interested in purchasing some products but have not yet but he will still answer your questions like having a Jorge Cervates of your own at the other end of the line 5 days a week 8 or 9 hours a day. I can not say enough about the company and there service. Also do yourself a favor and sign up for there newsletter some the best grow info out there for free.
P.S. I do not work for AN anyone that speaks well on there behalf is generally accussed of this so I am just saying it before hand. And great job again Ultrasonic for all the work and time to better your craft.
Just wanted to tell you that I would say AN's FF should only be used as a flushing agent the last 7 to 10 days of flowering and not as one may use florakleen but FF does have great advantages because in most cases you will really only use it for about 5 days and your plants will be completely flushed of the excess stored nutrients in there leaves etc and smoke much smoother. Also anytime you have a question about AN products call there tech support number 1 (800) 640-9605 (8am - 4pm PST) and ask for Roy there plant specialist explain your situation and he will tell you pretty much exactly what to do to rememdy a problem even if it means telling you to go buy a product they dont make or ask to speak to Terri if you have general questions about products same number. If your paranoid in anyway when you speak to roy just use your general terms (cutting,transplant,mother,flowering,veg,seedling etc) he will never ask you for your name or probe for the type of plant. And honestly its your best play if you ever have a problem that your not sure how to fix etc. because you do not really have to use any of there products of course I would recommend them but you can simply explain that you use GH this and Technaflora this and you have been interested in purchasing some products but have not yet but he will still answer your questions like having a Jorge Cervates of your own at the other end of the line 5 days a week 8 or 9 hours a day. I can not say enough about the company and there service. Also do yourself a favor and sign up for there newsletter some the best grow info out there for free.
P.S. I do not work for AN anyone that speaks well on there behalf is generally accussed of this so I am just saying it before hand. And great job again Ultrasonic for all the work and time to better your craft.
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ultrasonic
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Great Job bro!
Just wanted to tell you that I would say AN's FF should only be used as a flushing agent the last 7 to 10 days of flowering and not as one may use florakleen but FF does have great advantages because in most cases you will really only use it for about 5 days and your plants will be completely flushed of the excess stored nutrients in there leaves etc and smoke much smoother. Also anytime you have a question about AN products call there tech support number 1 (800) 640-9605 (8am - 4pm PST) and ask for Roy there plant specialist explain your situation and he will tell you pretty much exactly what to do to rememdy a problem even if it means telling you to go buy a product they dont make or ask to speak to Terri if you have general questions about products same number. If your paranoid in anyway when you speak to roy just use your general terms (cutting,transplant,mother,flowering,veg,seedling etc) he will never ask you for your name or probe for the type of plant. And honestly its your best play if you ever have a problem that your not sure how to fix etc. because you do not really have to use any of there products of course I would recommend them but you can simply explain that you use GH this and Technaflora this and you have been interested in purchasing some products but have not yet but he will still answer your questions like having a Jorge Cervates of your own at the other end of the line 5 days a week 8 or 9 hours a day. I can not say enough about the company and there service. Also do yourself a favor and sign up for there newsletter some the best grow info out there for free.
P.S. I do not work for AN anyone that speaks well on there behalf is generally accussed of this so I am just saying it before hand. And great job again Ultrasonic for all the work and time to better your craft.
NP man thanks for the advice: looking forward to seeing more of you.
Had a quick question for the community: since flowering has started, my PH has been drifting DOWN.... every 2 days it drops from 5.8 to 5.6... from what I understand, it should be doing the opposite. I have fairly large reservoirs: 20 gals, for 3 plants. PPMs are drifting downwards, but not at any crazy speed. I suppose it seems normal: the growth is looking fantastic.
Could this just simply be the "flowering ph swings" that I hear about? Thanks in advance
Cafghanica
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I am going to attempt to give a small amount of info that may help guide you on this and yes I do agree its just a natural swing because of flowering (or more so the make up of the nutes being used)
Cations and Anions are absorbed by your root system and also by beneficial organisms. When plants up take forms of Cations aka (urea NH2,Ammonium NH4,potassium K, Calcium Ca, Magnesium Mg, Iron Fe, Zinc Zn, Copper Cu, Manganese Mn, Cobalt Co) they produce Hydrogen Ions also known as H+ and when more Cations are uptakin into the plant then Anions your pH goes up. When your plant absorbs more Anions then Cations your pH will go down ver time. Anions are elements such as (nitrates NO3, Phosphates H2PO4, Sulfates SO4-2, carbonates CO3, bicarbonates HCO3) So keep a rez from drifting you have to keep the anion / cation ration supplied and uptakin by the plant at almost perfect levels which is nearly impossible. So in the end your amount of drift is really good considering you are not trying to provide perfect cation to anion ratios. The more beneficial bacteria and fungi that are used the more stable your rez will stay also because they reprocess broken down nutrients for a second go at the stablization of the rez before the final end product H+ or OH- which are what will actually change the pH up or down. Hope this was helpful and great job again brother
Cations and Anions are absorbed by your root system and also by beneficial organisms. When plants up take forms of Cations aka (urea NH2,Ammonium NH4,potassium K, Calcium Ca, Magnesium Mg, Iron Fe, Zinc Zn, Copper Cu, Manganese Mn, Cobalt Co) they produce Hydrogen Ions also known as H+ and when more Cations are uptakin into the plant then Anions your pH goes up. When your plant absorbs more Anions then Cations your pH will go down ver time. Anions are elements such as (nitrates NO3, Phosphates H2PO4, Sulfates SO4-2, carbonates CO3, bicarbonates HCO3) So keep a rez from drifting you have to keep the anion / cation ration supplied and uptakin by the plant at almost perfect levels which is nearly impossible. So in the end your amount of drift is really good considering you are not trying to provide perfect cation to anion ratios. The more beneficial bacteria and fungi that are used the more stable your rez will stay also because they reprocess broken down nutrients for a second go at the stablization of the rez before the final end product H+ or OH- which are what will actually change the pH up or down. Hope this was helpful and great job again brother
