Twelve12's Perpetual Grow

[Twelve12]

Mr. Krip ~ Thanks for your thoughts and hypothesis. Looking forward to the result in a week. I've made some cuttings prior to the test without clipping the leaf and it rooted much faster, could be strain only so not sure about the true results. This test will put an ease to my pondering.

Quixilvir ~ Understand you clearly. My point is that we have to deal with is the time it takes to reverting back to veg for cuttings taken from flowering mom. That will delay the process to be train into a mother plant. Cutting from vegging plant will hit the ground running once they rooted and placed in bloom or for vegging into moms again. With cutting from flowering mom the wait is longer for revegging to happen. Also it will only delay rooting time by 1-2 weeks and will also delay vegging time, and that's not what we're after. I've rooted cuttings from flowering moms before and they don't act the same as fresh cuts from vegging moms, it's somewhat slowed, and a few times had stunted growth. I see it as a good last resort to save the genetic but wouldn't use it to extend rooting time.

 

[Twelve12]

Member of The Month Prizes

I still can't believe I've won...a member per month, 12 members a year I'm glad to be part of the prestigious award. Thank you for those who voted for me. Remember to vote for your fav member/plant/nug every month! Participate as a contestant if you can, and you could be next.

Just received these today thought I take some snap shots and share them with you.

Have not smoke the water pipe, yet. The bowl is huge could easily fit 2-3g of dankness. It has a carb on the side which is neat, never seen that before on glass water pipe should be fun to use. Thank you smoketower.ca!

Also got some gifts from Sierra Natural Science for pest and mold control and a grow book! I'm experiencing some thrips and these came just in time. I like the fact that these contains natural ingredients.

Thank you 420 Magazine!

 

[willoby]

Re: Member of The Month Prizes

I still can't believe I've won...a member per month, 12 members a year I'm glad to be part of the prestigious award. Thank you for those who voted for me. Remember to vote for your fav member/plant/nug every month! Participate as a contestant if you can, and you could be next.

Just received these today thought I take some snap shots and share them with you.

Have not smoke the water pipe, yet. The bowl is huge could easily fit 2-3g of dankness. It has a carb on the side which is neat, never seen that before on glass water pipe should be fun to use. Thank you smoketower.ca!

Also got some gifts from Sierra Natural Science for pest and mold control and a grow book! I'm experiencing some thrips and these came just in time. I like the fact that these contains natural ingredients.

Thank you 420 Magazine!

YOU ARE WELL DESERVED FOR MOTM!!! Your dedication on growing and forwarding info to us is priceless and the way you log everything makes it easy for us fruits who cannot seem to do anything without pictures!! Your step by step info is very helpful....Walk tall my friend!!

 

[SauronBlue]

That time capsule is a neat idea. I think the moonlight that Sauron is talking about doesn't affect the plants because I've heard its more of a green spectrum versus the usual red & blue

SauronBlue ~ Interesting thought on the moon light. Not sure what benefit there is to have indoor light that acts like the outdoor moon. That would be a fun experiment. Unfortunately I don't have the space for it. Every grower wants complete darkness so the flowering cycle is not interrupt. Cannabis can reveg at any time giving enough light hours during the flowering stage. So by not having any light at all it's guarantee to stay in bloom. Though, a small light that acts like the outdoor moon may have some benefit.

Stoned: Not that I'm saying you're wrong, cuz I don't know for sure, but if the bright side of the moon is simply reflecting the sun that is hitting it, how can it have a different spectrum than sunlight? reduced potency, sure, but a whole different spectrum?

I am loving the comparison in the TC and AC! I have all these ideas, but who knows what works until we try, right? I read lots of stuff all over the net, and this was just based on info gleaned elsewhere. As far as the moonlight, I was posing that more as a thought provoking question than an idea for an experiment. It just seems like everybody holds that above all other rules: thou shalt not proffer light unto plants during their period of darkness; but where is this absolute darkness in nature? Why is absolute darkness the only option? imagine what other possible setups we could create if we changed that to "no more than x lumens during "dark" period. directional lighting could merge veg and flower into one room - we could change the cultivation of pot as we know it! Or we could end up with a bunch of transgender plants.

 

[Berry Bongtrip]

Congrats friend you deserved it great job on the grows and thanks for all your well documented information. PS. that water pipe looks unreal, have a good toke.

 

[ThaRealTreJay]

Damn, that is a sleek water pipe, It will go good with your dankness. grats again!

 

[OrganicTreees]

nice bong bro! Subbed up on this one.

 

[fncg]

Re: Expansion

Never thought this day would come but I have decided to do this full time. Expanding my garden to another room which is 15x15. The current room is 10x10 with 2 of 4x4 tent will remain as is (part veg and part flower) and use the flowering tent for breeding while the new room will be only for all girls party. Like one time I've been to a soroety house in college when they were setting up for a party, walked in, all girls sexy as hell just like that with better aroma.

64 of 2L bottles in 4x4 and I wonder how many can fit in 15x15 (insert evil laughter)...I may have to crash some parties to collect the empty 2L bottles in the mean time...

Got 1.5 months before the launch. Still need to clean out the room and order more supplies. Will need a bunch of coco, 2L, trays, couple more lights (600w) and make a few more aero cloner. Looking to harvest every week with the perpetual grow. I'm only going to grow out my permanent strains in the new room while continue with the trail grow in the tent (in the current room).

So, if I'm not as active as I have been this is why...

I'm no pro and growing out many strains and plants increases my success. Will implement the proven experiments I've done towards the new setup and let it rip. Raising a clone army and fight the prohibition. Guess this is my new job which I don't mind working past retirement.

Oh wow...gonna be impressive.

 

[ozric420]

Congrats 12 on winning, u are the man , are u still doing the GLR method, and if so are you also flowering 11-13 then lowering time by 15 min a week. thanks for ur time

 

[Truth Seeker]

Whats good T12!!!

I have now updated the Army blog, thank you for your patience my brotha!!! I wish you another successful grow!!!

 

[Twelve12]

willoby ~ Appreciate the kind words.

SauronBlue ~ I like science experiments in terms of comparison test. Good idea. Commercial grower don't want to risk plants from going hermie so the rule of no light leak is enforced during dark hours. If there is a way to test it would like to see the outcome. I know you're just shooting ideas but someone out there may be testing it. Understanding Cannabis we'll be able to grow healthier plants with more yield and aroma, and increase potency through growing optimally.

kola bear ~ Thank you. The water pipe hits hard, no wonder it's called "Brain Dead".

ThaRealTreJay ~ Thanks. This is a one hand water pipe. Small and compact good for traveling. Hope my dankness comes through, they'll be ready in 2-3 weeks before smoking it. Can't wait!

OrganicTreees ~ Thank you. Welcome to the adventure.

fncg ~ Should be fun. Planning things out replicating and keeping the system going.

ozric420 ~ Thank you. Yes, the veg tent is still under GLR. I'm not going to be using any other veg light cycle. This one I find works best for veg while saving electricity cost. First cutting from seed is under 12 days. Trimming is done weekly or the tent suffocates. I love it. Flowering I keep the light at 10/14. It's perpetual bloom so I can't use diminishing cycle, I just lock it at 10/14 seem to do well.

astonr420 ~ Thanks for the update. Good to see the BPN army is growing strong.

 

[ozric420]

Thank u 12, , in regards to flower time of 10-14, have u noticed that plants flower sooner or that buds are bigger or just more savings on electric, thanks for your time and input

 

[SauronBlue]

Flowering I keep the light at 10/14. It's perpetual bloom so I can't use diminishing cycle, I just lock it at 10/14 seem to do well.

Great info, I was wondering what to use for my flower schedule, as I don't want to have to change timers and all that every week, also not conducive to perp grow. I missed the post where you laid out you plans for the forest! Awesome news, man! I'm looking forward to expanding to a similar space in a couple months, if all goes well this time. I was thinking of just increasing the # of tents, but I'm sure I'll get a few great organizational ideas if you go public with yours!

 

[Twelve12]

ozric420 ~ Will have to run the 10/14 again using the same setup to see the difference. I just started using 10/14 with the new grow system so the improvement is shared among the new upgrades/change. Running the setup again with same strains (minus a few I had to let go) we'll have a better idea. So far it's not stressing the plants or anything. I noticed the Pineapple Express swell up more this round than the previous run. Keep in mind that the last run had a different system (soil hemp in 3gal bucket) and different nutrients, also it was a bit hotter too being mid-late Summer. Now, we're in the optimal indoor growing grow season so hoping for the best and all plants should grow to their fullest potential. Unless I mess up along the way…lol

I really want to run comparison tests but right now space is limited and I need to produce while in the optimal indoor grow season.

If you are not running a perpetual bloom (different flowering stages under the same light), then use diminishing cycle. If you veg your plants under Gas Lantern Routine the diminishing cycle will boost your plants health and buds while she shine in bloom. I'll run the diminishing cycle once I get more space.

SauronBlue ~ The plans will be quite simple. Bunch of 2L and 1L and 20oz on the floor in a tub ware to catch the run offs. They'll be hand water with a pump and I'll fit as many as I can in 8x8 of space leaving some room to work around the plants, the total space is 15x15. Not going to be mentioning the total of plants but they will be amazing.

 

[Twelve12]

Made revision to the strains. Removed: Afghan Kush, 1024, and Cheese. Early Queen showed sex, it's a boy, totaling 3 males in the collection. Berry Bomb and Snow White is currently in first week of seedling, first cutting (to determine sex) in a week. Black Domina is currently in bloom to determine sex. Mean while the Firestorm (female) is in bloom to see the result of my breeding work.

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Regular Seed- 13
Male - 3
Feminized/Female - 11
Unknown Sex - 6


20 Strains
Unknown Sex Reg/Fem
1 Nirvana - Super Skunk R
2 Sensi - Black Domina #1,2 R
3 Twelve12 - Downtown Stumble #3,4,5 R
4 Twelve12 - Pule #1,2 R
5 Bomb Seed - Berry Bomb #1,2,3 R
6 Nirvana - Snow White #1,2 R

Males
1 Seedsman - Ata Tundra R
2 Twelve12 - Firestorm #6 R
3 Mr Nice - Early Queen R

Female
1 Cali Connection - Pre-98 Bubba BX2 F
2 Female - C99 (Cinderella 99) F
3 G13 Labs - Pineapple Express F
4 Green House - Super Lemon Haze F
5 Green House - White Widow F
6 Next Generation - Grape God F
7 Serious - AK47 F
8 TH Seeds - Heavy Duty Fruity R
9 Twelve12 - Firestorm #4 R
10 Twelve12 - Downtown Stumble #1 R
11 Twelve12 - Downtown Stumble #2 R

 

[ozric420]

ozric420 ~ Will have to run the 10/14 again using the same setup to see the difference. I just started using 10/14 with the new grow system so the improvement is shared among the new upgrades/change. Running the setup again with same strains (minus a few I had to let go) we'll have a better idea. So far it's not stressing the plants or anything. I noticed the Pineapple Express swell up more this round than the previous run. Keep in mind that the last run had a different system (soil hemp in 3gal bucket) and different nutrients, also it was a bit hotter too being mid-late Summer. Now, we're in the optimal indoor growing grow season so hoping for the best and all plants should grow to their fullest potential. Unless I mess up along the way...lol

I really want to run comparison tests but right now space is limited and I need to produce while in the optimal indoor grow season.

If you are not running a perpetual bloom (different flowering stages under the same light), then use diminishing cycle. If you veg your plants under Gas Lantern Routine the diminishing cycle will boost your plants health and buds while she shine in bloom. I'll run the diminishing cycle once I get more space.

SauronBlue ~ The plans will be quite simple. Bunch of 2L and 1L and 20oz on the floor in a tub ware to catch the run offs. They'll be hand water with a pump and I'll fit as many as I can in 8x8 of space leaving some room to work around the plants, the total space is 15x15. Not going to be mentioning the total of plants but they will be amazing.

Thank u 12 , I think u should be member of the year, if there is such a contest, have a great Thanksgiving,and by the looks of it,you won't have any problem gett'in the munchies.

 

[ozric420]

12 my Vortex is going into 5th week of flower at 12-12, do u think if i go 10-14 now it will stress her ,or do u think it will be ok. Thanks buddy

 

[Twelve12]

ozric420 ~ If you are in 5th week then reduce 1 hr of light per week for the remaining flowering time, and you'll end up with 9/15 by 8th week. If your plant is a sativa which finishes at 12 week then reduce it by 30mins per week. Make the change gradually, like nature. Good luck let me know how it goes after.

 

[ozric420]

ozric420 ~ If you are in 5th week then reduce 1 hr of light per week for the remaining flowering time, and you'll end up with 9/15 by 8th week. If your plant is a sativa which finishes at 12 week then reduce it by 30mins per week. Make the change gradually, like nature. Good luck let me know how it goes after.

Sounds good my friend, TGA subcool Vortex has a flower time of 50 to 55 days, so it should be done in 8 weeks, thanks for the info . sent you some reps thank u for your input

 

[ozric420]

12 , do you know of anybody who has just went 13 on 11 off, that would stop all the timer stuff in veg and wouldn't that still work, just look'in for some input. thanks