Twelve12's Breeding Program

Random fact.

Got a confirmation from Connoisseur that the Granddady Purple S1 is indeed self from Ken's cut. Looks like this is going to be wonderful for everyone, especially those are not in CA to get the clone. They said there are only 100 pack (5 seeds ea) limited seed and will take a while before the bank restock so I will just grow out one seed instead of 1/2 of the pack, saving the rest until I self them and restock it myself, hehehe. They are feminized, and self, so the pheno/geno is locked should be the same for all seeds from the self.
 
GodSpeed ~ So far the cross have been result in hybrid F1, got the Firestorm (Pineapple Express x Grapefruit Diesel) male and female confirmed and selected.

The Firestorm female is like her sisters, very similar, while one of the male really stand out. It has 4 fan leaves per node, and I hope the trait passes on. If not, I'll continue to breed with this male until it is. More leafs can harness more light = faster growth stronger/healthier plant. Looks very cool like four leaf clover.

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Hey 12, how do you know the male and female are the "best" since you haven't sampled any yet? Don't you flower out the females and sample to determine the "one", then do the breeding on a clone of it?
 
OG13 ~ Good question. F1 is uniform so to save NE$T (Nute, Energy, Money, and Time) we skipped growing out all females, any one will do. Same with the males. However, one exhibited a rare trait so we're making this a father for F2.

F2 females is where they need to grow out from start to finish to find the winner(s) for future breeding. I see F1 as being the door, and F2 is the key.
 
Hey Twelve looks like a good plan you have intresting theory on the leaves would love to see the lucky ladie.

Just a question why do you want F2's rarther then F1 hybrid's?

I was under the impression F1's were more uniform in height, growth rate, shape and traits Ect giving you a true seed of the breeders discription.

And F2's were more of a fast knock off that 3 out of say 10 would be true to breeders discription?

I am far from breeding myself and only know from reading, some of your personal experience is what i am aiming to learn from.

:peace:
 
Hey GodSpeed! Good question.

Depends what we want from the breeding. If we want the best of both worlds then F1 is it. If you want a gem within that world, we look in F2. I want to find that gem, a hidden genetic that does not look like the parents, and will still carry over the potency, aroma, and flavors while having its own distinctive beauty. Like the leaves turn silver during late bloom (if there's suck genetic). Once I find the gem I have to backcross locking the goods in place. The offspring will be exact copy. That's my goal in the quest to become a breeder. I want to put in my contribution to the world.
 
The seeds are getting ripe and will be ready for harvest in 5 days. Working on the new strains logo while we wait. Got two finished.

Frozen Amazon = Heavy Duty Fruity x ATA Tundra
Snowflake = 1024 x ATA Tundra

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Pineapple Smoothie in the making

Check out the new logo for this strain.
It's a cup to hold the smoothie...yeah it's missing the smoothie. I drank it.

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Pineapple Smoothie (Pineapple Express x ATA Tundra) in the making. Part of the subzero collection.

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These are F1 hybrids, and in them we're looking for nug density of PE and the fast flowering with cold resistant from Tundra, with both combined potency level, can't wait to see different variations. It is like wanting to open a mystery present. The progeny should should be similar to the parents in any of these percentage (F/M); 50/50, 60/40, 75/25 or anywhere in between.

ATA Tundra male is currently in the Time Capsule. More clones will get produce again once I'm ready to backcross, giving the stability to the new gem.
 
just gorgeous you are a talented man!!
 
Goldengoose7 said:
Hey Twelve!

Got a quick breeding question for you that is hopefully on topic enough to ask here?

I just found out that my super tall White Rhino plant is MALE! I suspected that it was for awhile mainly because if how tall it is... 9.2 feet from base to main growing tip.

Anyway...The first instinct was to cut it down, but now I am thinking of leaving it on the back hill to pollenate the Purple Urkle and Northern Lights females I have growing next to it.

Question... How far away does a plant need to be to avoid being pollenated by this male plant? Just wondering if I can partially control who gets the pollen and who doesn't. Our winds tend to blow from the South so I assume that anything up wind of the plant would be safe and those in closest proximity or downwind would likely get pollentated?

I have SO MANY Purple Urkles back there that the thought of getting some "Purple Rhino" seeds is kind of neat! :thumb: Just don't want everything back there getting seeds if I can avoid it.

You are one of the most knowledeable growers I know up here when it comes to breeding and seed production, so I just came in from the back hill to ask your opinion!

Hope you don't mind that I posted this question here?

Thanks in advance! :)
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Pollen travels for thousands of miles. If you grow outside and you don't get seeds, now that's a rare occasion.
 
12> Man you have some project going on. :thumb: Did you ever get that C-99 from FS. Was wondering about that but you have a lot on your plate. Just got my new 400w full spectrum bulb from Hut and paid just 1/3 the cost of the hortilux bulbs. And 55,000 lummes. I think someone was talking about the high prices so it maybe of help to you all. Waiting for my Northern Lights by Homegrown Fanaseeds, so i can get some bud. Staying away from the haze/sativa since my last grow of Tangerine Dream didn't bud.

Peace out,
Flipper
 
GodSpeed ~ Not entirely, 80% are filled with seeds. And they look gorgeous.

BCBudd ~ T5 should work for clones under GLR. 1000w hps should be awesome for flowering. 2 rooms? It will keep you very busy indeed! About to start mine in 3 weeks.

justintym2 ~ Thank you. :}

bigirishdoode ~ Thank you for the kind words.

Smoke2Js ~ Thousands of miles? That's some distant. Good to know. All indoor breeding is the key to control the cross, don't want other males to contaminate the gene pool.

Flipper ~ Yes, there are a few C99 clones in 2L currently flowering out. She's slow, I need to put her under the hot spot to get the most out of the lights. Other strains are dominating the skyline. Got a mother standing by for clone production if it grow well under my environment. Did you get your C99? I'm about to buy some lights for the new room. Thanks for bringing up the full spectrum bulb. Good luck on the NL from HF.
 
Pineapple Smoothie

Pulled some seeds from the test nug, found 5 ripen seeds from 12. I also put them through a pressure test (hand pinching), if the seed crack/break/pop the they are discarded. These one passed.

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Don't think I have any more veg room to grow some of these out...Going to do it anyway. By the time they are ready to clone (in two weeks), I'll be letting go or have some other strains in the Time Capsule freeing up more space. :Namaste:
 
so 12 are you gonna become a full on breeder/420 sponsor and sell all of us your amazing work?? im 1st in line i called it neener neener!!!
 
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