Trala’s Tent

[Azimuth]

Thanks, Azi.

I actually use Carnival when I need a pick-me-up. But, I'll look into Moringa as well. However, I find supplements to be pretty expensive so that may help with the decision on whether to try it or not.

It's supposed to work kind of like cannabis, helping the body to restore homeostasis. It's the dried and powdered leaves of a tree that grows in warm climates, but you can supposedly grow it in a pot and overwinter it indoors. Or, take trunk cuttings which are supposed to be super easy to root for next year's crop.

I just got some seeds that I'm trying to sprout and I'm going to give it a go this year. So, if I can get them started, I'll have a free supply of leaves I can turn into powder.

Juicing the fresh leaves is supposed to be the best way, but I don't have a juicer. At least not yet.

 

[BakedARea]

All caught up T! Looking lovely and I'm sure they match their momma perfectly. Sometimes doing great but every once in a while a nit or two to wreak some havoc. Some sprays and puffs help keep the infestations at bay. Blessings!

 

[Trala]

You crack me up.

The bloke I work for, every day he comes in, goes hard, never carries on, and we turn the heavy metal right up and laugh a lot. I say to him all the time Im lucky, I get the best of him every day, not his wife.

You are like him here I think.

Girls look like they are loving life again. Gonna get squishy in there, already look stacked in.

As for the nits they will take to anything but for sure they will go for big healthy plants given choice.

You: The bloke I work for, every day he comes in, goes hard, never carries on, and we turn the heavy metal right up and laugh a lot… you are like him here I think

Me: *hysterically screaming* *constantly carrying on* OMG I’M SO UPSET! OMG I JUST KILLED MY FUCKING PLANT! OMG I AM SO MAD! OMG I DON’T KNOW WHAT TO DO! HELP ME I DON’T KNOW WHAT TO DO! SEND. FUCKING. HELP!

Yeah bloke, I’m exactly like that fun sounding cool as cucumber like dude!

L O L L I N G !

 

[Trala]

Good morning trala the babes look great...the plant- centipede hahaha is that when they are connected from root to bract lol and the flippity song is great why do I get the feeling you not only sing this to plants but you also sing it when you flip people off.

Good morning Happypants

Yup I got waaaaaay too many plants and not enough quality light.

Funny thing tho, I really do sing that to my plants before I flip. I always greet them in the morning and say night night before bed. #cRaY4lyf

 

[Trala]

Those are some gorgeous plants. Only problem is now I have to go get some Peyote Critical seeds!

She packs a punch.

She stinks too.

 

[Trala]

you posted this above but no ideas which product you meant….

Oh sorry, CCG Green Cleaner Concentrate Mite Powdery Mildew Treatment

nope what I’m saying is….

When starting a plant from seed…… you can tell when she approaches sexual maturity based on alternating nodes…..

clones are not started from seed and are automatically same age as mother

Oh I see.

I don’t consider them the same age when striking my clones. I call day one of Veg when I see new growth. It has taken some of my clones 30 days to get to what I consider Day 1.

 

[Trala]

Do this. ⬆

I will. I’m just really concerned about having enough flower light, but I will. I’ll just fucking do it and plant today.

It’s so stupid, I always think I’ll kill seeds, so no matter how excited I am, I use mental delay tactics. I’m just going to shut up and do it.

Don't do the crossed out part. 2:2 is the way you want to go. It's what you have space for. Don't overthink it. Emilya and DV8 gave you some great advice on the your Veg post.

Omg I just think I should wait tho, not even joking. But I’m going to plant them just the same. 11 weeks Veg ;11 weeks flower. I’m soooooOoo overthinking it. This Wedding Cake is my second try at the strain. My first try was a defective half seed. But maybe it was me who was defective, not the seed at all.

I wondered that as well as this is my second winter grow and I feel like I have way more bugs this year than last winter.

I think they like the sweet smelling plants. They loved my Shiskaberry too.

And thanks for the history lesson.

And as far as the mental “I’m so tiredddddd” dialog goes. I think the more we focus on it, the more our brain thinks “ohhhh you want tired vibes, here you go, exhausted… can’t keep your eyes opened… lay.. snooze… energy depleted… worn out..” Coz I felt so exhausted until I stepped on the ward and my focus changed from being self centred, to focusing on others. Had the best day and did 12365 steps and that was just at work. Did another 4000+ when I got home organising lights, crates and flower space. The less I do the less I want to do and the more I do the more I seem to want to do.

That said I’m about to embark on 4 delicious days off and my aim is to lay in one position so long I get the start of a pressure area.

 

[Trala]

Beautiful green! I can’t seem to get that for more than a week before they start getting lighter and lighter. I’m having to adjust the frequency of my top dress Geoflora feedings from every 2 weeks to 10 days instead, at least I hope it helps.

Good morning D to the B!

Thank you

I seem to be okay at veg, then diabolical at flower.

 

[Trala]

2 and then 2. That’s what I’m doing going forward. But I growing autos and don’t hav to worry about flipping schedules. I just had 2 beans pop out of the coco In my veg tent. In a month, I’ll pop 2 more. Cycling them between my 2x4 mostly veg tent to my tall 3x3 flower tent. Lather, rinse, repeat (which was a genius way shampoo makers figured out to double their sales overnight…).

Yeah I’m doing it.

I’m so nervous!

I’m planting seeds today.

 

[Trala]

All caught up T! Looking lovely and I'm sure they match their momma perfectly. Sometimes doing great but every once in a while a nit or two to wreak some havoc. Some sprays and puffs help keep the infestations at bay. Blessings!

Hey Rea

Thank you

Get yourself comfy bruv, time to watch me fuck up flower!

 

[Trala]

It’s so funny, not ha ha btw, how I turn planting seeds into an or-fucking-deal, when in reality, it’s 5 seconds, pop, pop dirt, done

I decided to just do it before I changed my ever changing mind. Legit outside in a nightie, gardening gloves and bed hair at 0630!

And now we wait…

Here comes the sun… here comes the sun and I say it’s alright

 

[BooWho2]

Hey @013, hope you don’t mind a couple of questions…been thinking about your post all day.

Once you get to about 7 to 12 pairs (depending on strain) of nodes above the cotys the nodes become alternating. This is begininning of sexual maturity….

I’ve seen what you are referring to above and noted that it is the beginning of sexual maturity. It makes sense that we would wait a few weeks before pushing to flower. So thank you for that.

clones are not started from seed and are automatically same age as mother

I’ve tried a couple of times to clone (but not very seriously). When I do get serious and do it, I need to understand what you mean above. If I took a clone from a sexually mature plant that was say 8 weeks old (spitballing here) does that mean that once the clone successfully rooted and I grew her for a couple of weeks I could flip to flower and expect a decent yield? Sorry if that’s a dumb question, just trying to wrap my head around cloning and the benefits, etc.

 

[013]

Hey BooWho2,

Fantastic - it helps to understand sexual maturity and I’m sure there’s plenty I don’t know about it…I’ll be happy to take a stab at it….. theres few bizarros about cloning to clear up first.

When staring from seed we always get even node pairs…. if you cut clone from low on plant it usually retains even node spacing…. if you cut clone from up high - it has staggered node spacing…… the exception is if you cut the top out and clone it when it has even node pairs then the clone will retain even node pairs until it reaches sexual maturity.

Nope not a dumb question at all…. but yes absolutely, lets say that hypothetical chick has staggered node spacing at 8 weeks and you cut a clone from her then yes that clone cut at 8 weeks is ready to flower once it’s properly rooted…. cuz the rule of the clone = a clone is always same age as mother it was cut from. I agree with you tho it would be best to get her rooted / stabilized for a few weeks before the flip.

exceptions here would be if you cut clone with even node spacing then you gotta wait for it to sexually mature….


….. this is my understanding, but if I’ve screwed the pooch - I’m always happy to be corrected!!!

 

[BooWho2]

Hey BooWho2,

Fantastic - it helps to understand sexual maturity and I’m sure there’s plenty I don’t know about it…I’ll be happy to take a stab at it….. theres few bizarros about cloning to clear up first.

When staring from seed we always get even node pairs…. if you cut clone from low on plant it usually retains even node spacing…. if you cut clone from up high - it has staggered node spacing…… the exception is if you cut the top out and clone it when it has even node pairs then the clone will retain even node pairs until it reaches sexual maturity.

Nope not a dumb question at all…. but yes absolutely, the clone cut at 8 weeks is ready to flower once it’s properly rooted…. cuz the rule of the clone = a clone is always same age as mother it was cut from. I agree with you tho it would be best to get her stabilized for a few weeks

Thank you for that! What would you say is the best area (for a newbie) to cut a clone from? Is there a "better " spot? Based on what you said I'm going to guess that I should clone up high but not the top?

 

[013]

I would think lowers because lowers will have that symmetry of even nodes which is preferred for training, but doing tops is ok too just won’t have symmetry if sexually mature… if you cut a staggered clone then it will be staggered. But whichever way you like we will try to help all we can….

honest truth right now I suck at cloning…. I have not practiced in a while but we can get you hooked with a few different tutorials just to have 2 points of comparison to read….I’ll throw down some basics but please build on this

clones need light hours but not bright lights….

all clones soil, coco etc need a dome or baggie except for direct water clones as in a cutting in cup of water… but the ones using baggies or domes must get fresh air exchange daily with incremental increases ie 5 mins per day then 7 mins per day

sounds stupidly redundant but that rh really matters… last time I wondered why my clones wouldn’t root…. well capn shit for brains here (me) was running the dehumidifier full blast to pull the room down for flower to prevent bud rot or pm…. its the enviro genius as I remind myself, clones can’t root when fighting dehuey to stay alive now can they??

heat mat helps, last but most important be surgical clean… hands tools whatevs

I think there’s clone tutorial on InTheSheds signature line and @Bill284 keeps tabs right here pretty sure he has one but last time I tried that link didn’t sync…Hey Bill do you have clone tutorial??

Also VG has an easy peasy clone in cup of perlite dealio…

edit to add.. what are you doing with the clone?

if you are going to top or train the clone then even node spacing would be preferred but if you are after speed then taking a top cut with odd node spacing and only doing lst would be faster since no down time for recovery after topping

 

[Bill284]

I would think lowers because lowers will have that symmetry of even nodes which is preferred for training, but doing tops is ok too just won’t have symmetry if sexually mature… if you cut a staggered clone then it will be staggered. But whichever way you like we will try to help all we can….

honest truth right now I suck at cloning…. I have not practiced in a while but we can get you hooked with a few different tutorials just to have 2 points of comparison to read….I’ll throw down some basics but please build on this

clones need light hours but not bright lights….

all clones soil, coco etc need a dome or baggie except for direct water clones as in a cutting in cup of water… but the ones using baggies or domes must get fresh air exchange daily with incremental increases ie 5 mins per day then 7 mins per day

sounds stupidly redundant but that rh really matters… last time I wondered why my clones wouldn’t root…. well capn shit for brains here (me) was running the dehumidifier full blast to pull the room down for flower to prevent bud rot or pm…. its the enviro genius as I remind myself, clones can’t root when fighting dehuey to stay alive now can they??

heat mat helps, last but most important be surgical clean… hands tools whatevs

I think there’s clone tutorial on InTheSheds signature line and @Bill284 keeps tabs right here pretty sure he has one but last time I tried that link didn’t sync…Hey Bill do you have clone tutorial??

Also VG has an easy peasy clone in cup of perlite dealio…

edit to add.. what are you doing with the clone?

if you are going to top or train the clone then even node spacing would be preferred but if you are after speed then taking a top cut with odd node spacing and only doing lst would be faster since no down time for recovery after topping

G.G. Clone Topped Before 10 Days Old

Gorilla glue clone topped before she was 10 days old. I finally found a foolproof way to grow a ton of great clones fast fast. Can’t miss. I just love it so much just wanted to throw it out there. Havin a great day.

www.420magazine.com

Good morning @013 hope everything is good with you.
I ranba perpetual garden for years.
That was my feeder room for my 2 flower rooms.

Stay safe
Bill

 

[013]

Thanks Bill, appreciate that link to get BooWho hooked up.

I’m going to call it a night.… making repairs, chasing parts and running errands got the better of me. I’m tired AF but that doesn’t mean sleep happens naturally or well for that matter.

rest up when you get a chance!

 

[Trala]

Hey @013, hope you don’t mind a couple of questions…been thinking about your post all day.

I’ve seen what you are referring to above and noted that it is the beginning of sexual maturity. It makes sense that we would wait a few weeks before pushing to flower. So thank you for that.

I’ve tried a couple of times to clone (but not very seriously). When I do get serious and do it, I need to understand what you mean above. If I took a clone from a sexually mature plant that was say 8 weeks old (spitballing here) does that mean that once the clone successfully rooted and I grew her for a couple of weeks I could flip to flower and expect a decent yield? Sorry if that’s a dumb question, just trying to wrap my head around cloning and the benefits, etc.

Hello Boobird

No such thing as a dumb question

I’m actually okay at cloning and I’d be so happy to help you in any way I can

I have shot some video, all 4 plants in it are clones. The Tangerine Dream is a little monster which means she was struck from a bud. I’ll upload it in a sec. Just stop it once the screen goes black. I had this dramatic dive into the pool idea, but I didn’t factor in the turning off of the camera. A better person would have reshot it lolllllll.

I’m just so cringy sometimes!

 

[Trala]

Hey BooWho2,

Fantastic - it helps to understand sexual maturity and I’m sure there’s plenty I don’t know about it…I’ll be happy to take a stab at it….. theres few bizarros about cloning to clear up first.

When staring from seed we always get even node pairs…. if you cut clone from low on plant it usually retains even node spacing…. if you cut clone from up high - it has staggered node spacing…… the exception is if you cut the top out and clone it when it has even node pairs then the clone will retain even node pairs until it reaches sexual maturity.

Nope not a dumb question at all…. but yes absolutely, lets say that hypothetical chick has staggered node spacing at 8 weeks and you cut a clone from her then yes that clone cut at 8 weeks is ready to flower once it’s properly rooted…. cuz the rule of the clone = a clone is always same age as mother it was cut from. I agree with you tho it would be best to get her rooted / stabilized for a few weeks before the flip.

exceptions here would be if you cut clone with even node spacing then you gotta wait for it to sexually mature….


….. this is my understanding, but if I’ve screwed the pooch - I’m always happy to be corrected!!!

Okay so I’ll share my experience

For me to get a symmetrical plant I need a symmetrical piece of growth. It matters not whether it is at the bottom, or a top. Imo tops make the best clones.

I also don’t treat a plant who was taken from a say 40 day Veg clone as a 40 day old plant. I base my first day of Veg on growth. Once I see a new leaf that is my day 1 of Veg. I also learned from Shed I think, to feed a clone the same feed rate you were feeding the mother plant. Buds excluded I think.

I have two clones, one taken from the top of the Mimosa, the other taken from the bottom and they are two very different plants.

This is just my experience

 

[Trala]

Thank you for that! What would you say is the best area (for a newbie) to cut a clone from? Is there a "better " spot? Based on what you said I'm going to guess that I should clone up high but not the top?

I think tops make the best clones.

You can cut it anywhere really. But I think the most important thing is to have yourself set up. I view it like an operation. You want a clean aseptic technique. I did a thingy in here on how I do clones. I’ll try and find it.