The Real Reason Marijuana Is Illegal

The powers-that-be in every government seem to think that they require some kind of enemy. If one does not exist, they create one. This is nothing new. In earlier times - and even now, for some - a different religion than the one that the majority of the subjects follow served this purpose. Today, though, many are too apathetic in regards to that thing for it to work.

Communism is still a popular enemy in certain circles. Although there is a danger there, IMHO. Championing the "capitalist versus communist" fight brings with it the danger... that people will realize they are actually living in a bastardized socialist regime :rolleyes: . Fights which bring with them the enlightenment of one's own people can be dangerous. The mouth-breathers make far better cannon-fodder - and voters. . . .
 
TorturedSoul said:
The powers-that-be in every government seem to think that they require some kind of enemy. If one does not exist, they create one. This is nothing new. In earlier times - and even now, for some - a different religion than the one that the majority of the subjects follow served this purpose. Today, though, many are too apathetic in regards to that thing for it to work.

Communism is still a popular enemy in certain circles. Although there is a danger there, IMHO. Championing the "capitalist versus communist" fight brings with it the danger... that people will realize they are actually living in a bastardized socialist regime :rolleyes: . Fights which bring with them the enlightenment of one's own people can be dangerous. The mouth-breathers make far better cannon-fodder - and voters. . . .
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i don't deny there is danger with communism either, especially when the country/economy has not stabilized with an industrial production base. there has been chaos before/after a government adopted it without a stable industrialized economy but no system is isolated.

can see the textbook regime change tactics employed by us foreign policy in venezula today with the street "protests", and the public response. us sanctions an oil export dependent country during oil price crash > general american public: "socialism inherently has bad economic policy, what a bad dictator" . when usa sanctions north korea > public generally buys the propaganda that it's cause kim is starving his citizens human right etc. so i find it ironic when the public of opposition sentiment say communists or socialists lack of critical thinking..
 
I have learned to try not to get carried away in regards to political discussions on friendly forums, lol (and I think they might even be somewhat discouraged here so that the membership doesn't descend into arguments that all seem to begin with the words "You people." But I will type a little bit:

I see lots of socialist and socialist welfare state nations. I have yet to see a modern capitalist one (probably because it'd actually take merit to become Someone of Importance in one). But I haven't seen a true communist society, either. The PRC sure isn't one, and neither was the USSR. A real communist country wouldn't have had ZiL lanes (rezervniye polosy) for the party elite, to cite one tiny example of why that wasn't communism.

True capitalism: I made a product. If it's a good one, lots of people will buy it and I'll succeed. If it's a poor one, hardly anyone will buy it and I'll fail. If it's a really poor one, someone will probably come along and attack me to avenge a loved one who was killed by using my product - and I will not have earned enough money to afford police services, so there won't be much worry that I'll live to make any more really poor products. Meanwhile, if I treat my employees fairly and offer them a competitive benefits package, I will have lots of happy and productive workers to help the process along and, if I do neither of these things, I won't and, therefore, will go out of business.

What we call capitalism: The automobiles you are manufacturing must have 17 airbags, headlights that operate any time the key is in the "on" position, traction-control, rear-view cameras so that people won't have to use their mirrors, etc. You must offer 83 different benefits to your employees - half of which will still quit and f*ck off to the nearest welfare office to sign up for benefits.

The world is doomed :rolleyes: .
 
New title, why cannabis is illegal in
20th century America and its effect on other countries....
Was outlawed in many countries prior to any dates written. You didn't want to be smoking in Egypt in 14th century.. Just wasn't in America...
 
The REAL reason it's still illegal, is really because, most people voice their opinions from the shadows,
Some people voice their opinions from the sidelines, and a Few people voice their opinions from the Frontline.

We are ALMOST there People! Participation is Required!
 
Perhaps I'm too trusting of humanity, but if I had to guess... I think it was illegal for the simple reason it was a narcotic, that many people in the country viewed as "bad". Now it's becoming legal because people's views are changing.. Realizing it's not soo bad, and in certain cases actually helpful. So why not make er legal, and make some money right?
 
corporate greed and control is the main reason now i feel
big pharma need sick patients, so synthetic prescription drugs are great, because the supress issues while causing more creatig need for more synthetic drugs..

the paper cotton and oil industry cannot allow hemp to be widely used for these purposes, because it is toooooo cost effective to warrant the ability to create monstrous profits

corporate greed and lobbying i guess

well fuck em all i say lol
 
Woodstock 2, coming round soon, a place to meet and greet other growers, at least in the northeast b seeing u or selling to u there.lol
 
There’s never been a reported death... from weed, I’m just saying.
The real reason it’s illegal is for profit, when Nixon made pot illegal u may remember “ The war on drugs” and classified it...as a dangerous drug?All gov. studies were halted. But on the flip side the police ranks were swelling along with the their budget, the courts, and jails, by making it illegal thus allowing the criminal element to enter. Talk about short sited, and now 40 years later not much has changed the governments still in the back water with out a paddle and without a clue !
At least study the the product before condemning it.
 
Long post!

You started talking about marijuana, which people use medically and recreationally, then you made a long list of historic uses for hemp, which is a completely different type of plant used for manufacturing products, you dropped namea of people who grew hemp hundreds of years ago.

There is no relation between the uses for hemp and the uses for properly grown sensimillia marijuana.

Are You're saying hemp was outlawed because it comprimised various business potentials, and not because it developed onto a highly potent recreational drug?
 
Bud said:
There’s never been a reported death... from weed, I’m just saying.
The real reason it’s illegal is for profit, when Nixon made pot illegal u may remember “ The war on drugs” and classified it...as a dangerous drug?All gov. studies were halted. But on the flip side the police ranks were swelling along with the their budget, the courts, and jails, by making it illegal thus allowing the criminal element to enter. Talk about short sited, and now 40 years later not much has changed the governments still in the back water with out a paddle and without a clue !
At least study the the product before condemning it.
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Has a chronic pot smoker never died from lung cancer? That's a pretty direct co-relation
 
I think I once read that the incidence of lung cancer is lower for heavy consumers of both cigarettes and cannabis than it is for heavy consumers of cigarettes who don't also consume cannabis.

But I can't seem to find a link/source, so it could just be my brain's wishful thinking, IDK.
 
ModernHippyDad said:
Has a chronic pot smoker never died from lung cancer? That's a pretty direct co-relation
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Has a non smoker ever died of lung cancer? Of course, so there’s no real correlation between the two.imo. As the states legitimize weed, the stigma of it being bad is fading away, now if those old guard ass holes in Washington would do the same thing we could move on to more important matters. THIS IS NOT A BIGGIE chill out.
 
ModernHippyDad said:
Has a chronic pot smoker never died from lung cancer? That's a pretty direct co-relation
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thc has been recently shown to be an aggressive anti-cancer agent. it attaches to a cell receptor and triggers a necrosis function in damaged or mutated cells. while smoking is a poor delivery vehicle, it has been suggested that this may explain the lack of lung cancers in chronic ganja smokers.
 
fdsa187187 said:
The Marijuana Conspiracy - The Real Reason Hemp is Illegal
by Doug Yurchey, June 15, 2005


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And I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land.-- Ezekiel 34/29

THE REAL REASON CANNABIS HAS BEEN OUTLAWED HAS NOTHING
TO DO WITH ITS EFFECTS ON THE MIND AND BODY.

Doug Yurchey

MARIJUANA is DANGEROUS. Pot is NOT harmful to the human body or mind. Marijuana does NOT pose a threat to the general public. Marijuana is very much a danger to the oil companies, alcohol, tobacco industries and a large number of chemical corporations. Various big businesses, with plenty of dollars and influence, have suppressed the truth from the people.

The truth is if marijuana was utilized for its vast array of commercial products, it would create an industrial atomic bomb! Entrepreneurs have not been educated on the product potential of pot. The super rich have conspired to spread misinformation about an extremely versatile plant that, if used properly, would ruin their companies.

Where did the word 'marijuana' come from? In the mid 1930s, the M-word was created to tarnish the good image and phenomenal history of the hemp plant...as you will read. The facts cited here, with references, are generally verifiable in the Encyclopedia Britannica which was printed on hemp paper for 150 years:

* All schoolbooks were made from hemp or flax paper until the 1880s; Hemp Paper Reconsidered, Jack Frazier, 1974.

* It was LEGAL TO PAY TAXES WITH HEMP in America from 1631 until the early 1800s; LA Times, Aug. 12, 1981.

* REFUSING TO GROW HEMP in America during the 17th and 18th Centuries WAS AGAINST THE LAW! You could be jailed in Virginia for refusing to grow hemp from 1763 to 1769; Hemp in Colonial Virginia, G. M. Herdon.

"I grew Hemp", George Washington

* George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and other founding fathers GREW HEMP; Washington and Jefferson Diaries. Jefferson smuggled hemp seeds from China to France then to America.

* Benjamin Franklin owned one of the first paper mills in America and it processed hemp. Also, the War of 1812 was fought over hemp. Napoleon wanted to cut off Moscow's export to England; Emperor Wears No Clothes, Jack Herer.

* For thousands of years, 90% of all ships' sails and rope were made from hemp. The word 'canvas' is Dutch for cannabis; Webster's New World Dictionary.

* 80% of all textiles, fabrics, clothes, linen, drapes, bed sheets, etc. were made from hemp until the 1820s with the introduction of the cotton gin.

* The first Bibles, maps, charts, Betsy Ross's flag, the first drafts of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were made from hemp; U.S. Government Archives.

* The first crop grown in many states was hemp. 1850 was a peak year for Kentucky producing 40,000 tons. Hemp was the largest cash crop until the 20th Century; State Archives.

* Oldest known records of hemp farming go back 5000 years in China, although hemp industrialization probably goes back to ancient Egypt.

* Rembrants, Gainsboroughs, Van Goghs as well as most early canvas paintings were principally painted on hemp linen.

* In 1916, the U.S. Government predicted that by the 1940s all paper would come from hemp and that no more trees need to be cut down. Government studies report that 1 acre of hemp equals 4.1 acres of trees. Plans were in the works to implement such programs; Department of Agriculture

* Quality paints and varnishes were made from hemp seed oil until 1937. 58,000 tons of hemp seeds were used in America for paint products in 1935; Sherman Williams Paint Co. testimony before Congress against the 1937 Marijuana Tax Act.

* Henry Ford's first Model-T was built to run on hemp gasoline and the CAR ITSELF WAS CONTRUCTED FROM HEMP! On his large estate, Ford was photographed among his hemp fields. The car, 'grown from the soil,' had hemp plastic panels whose impact strength was 10 times stronger than steel; Popular Mechanics, 1941.

* Hemp called 'Billion Dollar Crop.' It was the first time a cash crop had a business potential to exceed a billion dollars; Popular Mechanics, Feb., 1938.

* Mechanical Engineering Magazine (Feb. 1938) published an article entitled 'The Most Profitable and Desirable Crop that Can be Grown.' It stated that if hemp was cultivated using 20th Century technology, it would be the single largest agricultural crop in the U.S. and the rest of the world.

The following information comes directly from the United States Department of Agriculture's 1942 14-minute film encouraging and instructing 'patriotic American farmers' to grow 350,000 acres of hemp each year for the war effort:

'...(When) Grecian temples were new, hemp was already old in the service of mankind. For thousands of years, even then, this plant had been grown for cordage and cloth in China and elsewhere in the East. For centuries prior to about 1850, all the ships that sailed the western seas were rigged with hempen rope and sails. For the sailor, no less than the hangman, hemp was indispensable...

...Now with Philippine and East Indian sources of hemp in the hands of the Japanese...American hemp must meet the needs of our Army and Navy as well as of our industries...

...the Navy's rapidly dwindling reserves. When that is gone, American hemp will go on duty again; hemp for mooring ships; hemp for tow lines; hemp for tackle and gear; hemp for countless naval uses both on ship and shore. Just as in the days when Old Ironsides sailed the seas victorious with her hempen shrouds and hempen sails. Hemp for victory!'

Certified proof from the Library of Congress; found by the research of Jack Herer, refuting claims of other government agencies that the 1942 USDA film 'Hemp for Victory' did not exist.

Hemp cultivation and production do not harm the environment. The USDA Bulletin #404 concluded that Hemphemp produces 4 times as much pulp with at least 4 to 7 times less pollution. From Popular Mechanics, Feb. 1938:

'It has a short growing season...It can be grown in any state...The long roots penetrate and break the soil to leave it in perfect condition for the next year's crop. The dense shock of leaves, 8 to 12 feet above the ground, chokes out weeds.
...hemp, this new crop can add immeasurably to American agriculture and industry.'

In the 1930s, innovations in farm machinery would have caused an industrial revolution when applied to hemp. This single resource could have created millions of new jobs generating thousands of quality products. Hemp, if not made illegal, would have brought America out of the Great Depression.

William Randolph Hearst (Citizen Kane) and the Hearst Paper Manufacturing Division of Kimberly Clark owned vast acreage of timberlands. The Hearst Company supplied most paper products. Patty Hearst's grandfather, a destroyer of nature for his own personal profit, stood to lose billions because of hemp.

In 1937, Dupont patented the processes to make plastics from oil and coal. Dupont's Annual Report urged stockholders to invest in its new petrochemical division. Synthetics such as plastics, cellophane, celluloid, methanol, nylon, rayon, Dacron, etc., could now be made from oil. Natural hemp industrialization would have ruined over 80% of Dupont's business.


THE CONSPIRACY

Andrew Mellon became Hoover's Secretary of the Treasury and Dupont's primary investor. He appointed his future nephew-in-law, Harry J. Anslinger, to head the Federal Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs.

Secret meetings were held by these financial tycoons. Hemp was declared dangerous and a threat to their billion dollar enterprises. For their dynasties to remain intact, hemp had to go. These men took an obscure Mexican slang word: 'marihuana' and pushed it into the consciousness of America.


MEDIA MANIPULATION

A media blitz of 'yellow journalism' raged in the late 1920s and 1930s. Hearst's newspapers ran stories emphasizing the horrors of marihuana. The menace of marihuana made headlines. Readers learned that it was responsible for everything from car accidents to loose morality.

Films like 'Reefer Madness' (1936), 'Marihuana: Assassin of Youth' (1935) and 'Marihuana: The Devil's Weed' (1936) were propaganda designed by these industrialists to create an enemy. Their purpose was to gain public support so that anti-marihuana laws could be passed.

Examine the following quotes from 'The Burning Question' aka REEFER MADNESS:

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a violent narcotic.
*

acts of shocking violence.
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incurable insanity.
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soul-destroying effects.
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under the influence of the drug he killed his entire family with an ax.
*

more vicious, more deadly even than these soul-destroying drugs (******, *******) is the menace of marihuana!

Reefer Madness did not end with the usual 'the end.' The film concluded with these words plastered on the screen: TELL YOUR CHILDREN.

In the 1930s, people were very naive; even to the point of ignorance. The masses were like sheep waiting to be led by the few in power. They did not challenge authority. If the news was in print or on the radio, they believed it had to be true. They told their children and their children grew up to be the parents of the baby-boomers.

On April 14, 1937, the Prohibitive Marihuana Tax Law or the bill that outlawed hemp was directly brought to the House Ways and Means Committee. This committee is the only one that can introduce a bill to the House floor without it being debated by other committees. The Chairman of the Ways and Means, Robert Doughton, was a Dupont supporter. He insured that the bill would pass Congress.

Dr. James Woodward, a physician and attorney, testified too late on behalf of the American Medical Association. He told the committee that the reason the AMA had not denounced the Marihuana Tax Law sooner was that the Association had just discovered that marihuana was hemp.

Few people, at the time, realized that the deadly menace they had been reading about on Hearst's front pages was in fact passive hemp. The AMA understood cannabis to be a MEDICINE found in numerous healing products sold over the last hundred years.

In September of 1937, hemp became illegal. The most useful crop known became a drug and our planet has been suffering ever since.

Congress banned hemp because it was said to be the most violence-causing drug known. Anslinger, head of the Drug Commission for 31 years, promoted the idea that marihuana made users act extremely violent. In the 1950s, under the Communist threat of McCarthyism, Anslinger now said the exact opposite. Marijuana will pacify you so much that soldiers would not want to fight.

Today, our planet is in desperate trouble. Earth is suffocating as large tracts of rain forests disappear. Pollution, poisons and chemicals are killing people. These great problems could be reversed if we industrialized hemp. Natural biomass could provide all of the planet's energy needs that are currently supplied by fossil fuels. We have consumed 80% of our oil and gas reserves. We need a renewable resource. Hemp could be the solution to soaring gas prices.


Hemp

THE WONDER PLANT

Hemp has a higher quality fiber than wood fiber. Far fewer caustic chemicals are required to make paper from hemp than from trees. Hemp paper does not turn yellow and is very durable. The plant grows quickly to maturity in a season where trees take a lifetime.

ALL PLASTIC PRODUCTS SHOULD BE MADE FROM HEMP SEED OIL. Hempen plastics are biodegradable! Over time, they would break down and not harm the environment. Oil-based plastics, the ones we are very familiar with, help ruin nature; they do not break down and will do great harm in the future. The process to produce the vast array of natural (hempen) plastics will not ruin the rivers as Dupont and other petrochemical companies have done. Ecology does not fit in with the plans of the Oil Industry and the political machine. Hemp products are safe and natural.

MEDICINES SHOULD BE MADE FROM HEMP. We should go back to the days when the AMA supported cannabis cures. 'Medical Marijuana' is given out legally to only a handful of people while the rest of us are forced into a system that relies on chemicals. Pot is only healthy for the human body.

WORLD HUNGER COULD END. A large variety of food products can be generated from hemp. The seeds contain one of the highest sources of protein in nature. ALSO: They have two essential fatty acids that clean your body of cholesterol. These essential fatty acids are not found anywhere else in nature! Consuming pot seeds is the best thing you could do for your body. Eat uncooked hemp seeds.

CLOTHES SHOULD BE MADE FROM HEMP. Hemp clothing is extremely strong and durable over time. You could hand clothing, made from pot, down to your grandchildren. Today, there are American companies that make hemp clothing; usually 50% hemp. Hemp fabrics should be everywhere. Instead, they are almost underground. Superior hemp products are not allowed to advertise on fascist television. Kentucky, once the top hemp producing state, made it ILLEGAL TO WEAR hemp clothing! Can you imagine being thrown into jail for wearing quality jeans?

The world is crazy...but that does not mean you have to join the insanity. Get together. Spread the news. Tell people, and that includes your children, the truth. Use hemp products. Eliminate the word 'marijuana.' Realize the history that created it. Make it politically incorrect to say or print the M-word. Fight against the propaganda (designed to favor the agenda of the super rich) and the bullshit. Hemp must be utilized in the future. We need a clean energy source to save our planet. INDUSTRIALIZE HEMP!

The liquor, tobacco and oil companies fund more than a million dollars a day to Partnership for a Drug-Free America and other similar agencies. We have all seen their commercials. Now, their motto is: ‘It's more dangerous than we thought.’ Lies from the powerful corporations, that began with Hearst, are still alive and well today.

The brainwashing continues. Now, the commercials say: If you buy a joint, you contribute to murders and gang wars. The latest anti-pot commercials say: If you buy a joint...you are promoting TERRORISM! The new enemy (terrorism) has paved the road to brainwash you any way THEY see fit.

There is only one enemy; the friendly people you pay your taxes to; the war-makers and nature destroyers. With your funding, they are killing the world right in front of your eyes. HALF A MILLION DEATHS EACH YEAR ARE CAUSED BY TOBACCO. HALF A MILLION DEATHS EACH YEAR ARE CAUSED BY ALCOHOL. NO ONE HAS EVER, EVER DIED FROM SMOKING POT!! In the entire history of the human race, not one death can be attributed to cannabis. Our society has outlawed grass but condones the use of the KILLERS: TOBACCO and ALCOHOL. Hemp should be declassified and placed in DRUG stores to relieve stress. Hardening and constriction of the arteries are bad; but hemp usage actually enlarges the arteries...which is a healthy condition. We have been so conditioned to think that: Smoking is harmful. That is NOT the case for passive pot.

Ingesting THC, hemp's active agent, has a positive effect; relieving asthma and glaucoma. A joint tends to alleviate the nausea caused by chemotherapy. You are able to eat on hemp. This is a healthy state of being.

{One personal note: During the pregnancy of my wife, she was having some difficulty gaining weight. We were in the hospital. A nurse called us to one side and said: ‘Off the record, if you smoke pot...you'd get something called the munchies and you’ll gain weight.' I swear that is a true story}.

The stereotype for a pothead is similar to a drunk, bubble-brain. Yet, the truth is one’s creative abilities can be enhanced under its influence. The perception of time slightly slows and one can become more sensitive. You can more appreciate all arts; be closer to nature and generally FEEL more under the influence of cannabis. It is, in fact, the exact opposite state of mind and body as the drunken state. You can be more aware with pot.

The pot plant is an ALIEN plant. There is physical evidence that cannabis is not like any other plant on this planet. One could conclude that it was brought here for the benefit of humanity. Hemp is the ONLY plant where the males appear one way and the females appear very different, physically! No one ever speaks of males and females in regard to the plant kingdom because plants do not show their sexes; except for cannabis. To determine what sex a certain, normal, Earthly plant is: You have to look internally, at its DNA. A male blade of grass (physically) looks exactly like a female blade of grass. The hemp plant has an intense sexuallity. Growers know to kill the males before they fertilize the females. Yes, folks...the most potent pot comes from 'horny females.'

The reason this amazing, very sophisticated, ET plant from the future is illegal has nothing to do with how it physically affects us…..

…POT IS ILLEGAL BECAUSE BILLIONAIRES WANT TO REMAIN BILLIONAIRES!

ps: I think the word ‘DRUGS’ should not be used as an umbrella-word that covers all chemical agents. Drugs have come to be known as something BAD. Are you aware there are LEGAL drugstores?! Yep, in every city. Unbelievable. Each so-called drug should be considered individually. Cannabis is a medicine and not a drug. We should DARE to speak the TRUTH no matter what the law is.

Source: schaffer library
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:love: there is a few more also. But wow. Mind blowing
 
Once something is made illegal it becomes high risk to challenge the law.

That's a large part of what has been going on for the last 70 years or so.

Heroin use and AIDS had their role to play when I was in my youth because they just had to label cannabis as a gateway drug and it was pretty strong message to deter people and create groundswell of public opinion.

Few of us live in a bubble and if your pastimes cause serious risk to your day job or your family, your life chances .. well most people take the lower risk route.

Recreational drug taking has become far more prevalent in the last 30 years or so than it ever was and the Internet has made information more available so here we are .....

It is going to take longer to get religion out of peoples heads.
 

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