The Chronicles of Mother Forcade & the Sour Flo's

just to ease your mind a little, A friend had mites in bloom. never completely got rid of them, just kept them in check. The harvest was still nice, just a little extra protien. hahaha,


Neutrino, before you kill the soil bugs be sure that their thrips and not Springtales. I have springtales, and they help eat dead roots and algea and fungus from the soil. they are beneficial. You can tell the difference by taking a little bit of soil with them on there, and putting it in a cup of water. the springtales will bunch together forming rafts and try to spring out of the water - hence -spring-tales. just a tip because I never even see any algea and my coir is always moist. Those bugs are an exellent help there. I actually cultivate them by taking a teaspoon of coir from older plants soil and putting it into the new babies.

The springtales are also a touch smaller and white to brown. you may have both, in which case, kill, kill, kill. Damn ugs. lololol

later guys!
 
Thanks for the heads-up Jason...I'm actually familiar with springtails from my um, spineless pets and their substrate. But I've got maybe a week or so until full harvest so at this point I'm not even going to do anything. If they turn out to be bad bugs and the plant begins to show signs of a serious infestation I'll harvest early...but other than that I'm not doing anything :) I did not know about the "rafting springtail" test, good to know!
 
hahaha, Oh, sorry to go off about bugs you already know about. Just wasn't sure. those helpers seem to be little known amungst growers.

....and yea, hahaha, "rafting" .....such a technical term. I should take that to the bank. you know what I mean though.
 
thanks j.l., i didnt know that....
co...did you know you can water with the azomax also? makes it systemic then, so they bite, they die...another method of attack...just not flowering plants....you dont want it... i use it in the veg garden to get rid of soil bugs, also in the mmj garden....works great....lavendar:nicethread:
 
jasonlee247 said:
just to ease your mind a little, A friend had mites in bloom. never completely got rid of them, just kept them in check. The harvest was still nice, just a little extra protien. hahaha,


Neutrino, before you kill the soil bugs be sure that their thrips and not Springtales. I have springtales, and they help eat dead roots and algea and fungus from the soil. they are beneficial. You can tell the difference by taking a little bit of soil with them on there, and putting it in a cup of water. the springtales will bunch together forming rafts and try to spring out of the water - hence -spring-tales. just a tip because I never even see any algea and my coir is always moist. Those bugs are an exellent help there. I actually cultivate them by taking a teaspoon of coir from older plants soil and putting it into the new babies.

The springtales are also a touch smaller and white to brown. you may have both, in which case, kill, kill, kill. Damn ugs. lololol

later guys!
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thanks for the reassuarance jason I needed to hear that my girl said something to me yesterday that made me snap out of it to she goes "you need to stop being so hard on yourself it's only your second grow and all the guys that taught you what you know and you look up to have been growin for over a decade, you've got a long way to go before you have that kind of experience and knowledge.." made me stop for a second and realize that it is only my second and my diligence has been as up to par as possible and today I will be getting an army of lady bugs to unleash so hopefully that will be a nice way to keep em under control :thumb: thanks again for the inspiring words man it's much appreciated :thankyou:
 
jasonlee247 said:
hahaha, Oh, sorry to go off about bugs you already know about. Just wasn't sure. those helpers seem to be little known amungst growers.
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No need to apologize, good info to toss out there for others to know! Most people see a bug and automatically assume it's bad, especially when they're that small. I've been keeping tarantulas and other spineless critters for a while and every once in a while I'd get an "infestation" of springtails. I don't like the looks of them and I really don't like "moving soil" but I tolerate them because as you mentioned they are actually beneficial. Again, I do thank you for the heads up even if I was already aware of the difference between the two because other people generally do not. :thankyou:

....and yea, hahaha, "rafting" .....such a technical term. I should take that to the bank. you know what I mean though.
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I know exactly what you meant...which makes it the perfect description/terminology! :ganjamon:
 
hey guys so a lil more on my warfare on mites like I've said before i use home made and commercial remedies/pesticides and earlier i sprayed with azomax and mite rid and I usually follow with a mild organic remedy usually something I'm experimenting with so tonight I thought I'd ask for opinions on this one...
recipe
tblspn of 100% organic rosemary leaves crushed
2 tblsps epsom salt
1 tblspn of baking soda
add all three ingredients to a tea bag or tea strainer and seep in hot water
remove tea bag and use water seeped with ingredients to spray the canopy
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I'll let you guys know the results thought maybe some one would have an idea on if it might work :ganjamon:
 
HEY CO...
WAIT...we can use epson salts to remedy something in the soil...dont remember what, but find out first...it may mess with the ph or .....anyway, you may want to look that up....lavendar
 
Hey Dude! Man it's been so long since I've come and visited with you that my link from my emails took me to your thread, 4 pages back the other way for crying out loud! Hopefully you'll forgive me and let me catch up at least? In fact just to show you haw far back I was, here's a post I found back there that caught my eye


COmmjDude said:
i to am not in any way O.K with it if you are keep it to yourself because like naked women weighing over 200lbs & midget porn some things just don't need to be mentioned or seen by the general public haha:cool:
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Man I'm thinking 'Man, the guys are talking about 200lb woman sitting on midgets!' I'm not into that stuff personally. Nice to see you cover a wide range of topics. :rasta:

I'll be trying to catch up bro! I'll swim there! :surf:
 
I dunno, I think Lavendars right about the Salts. The Rosemary is a deturrent I think, but not sure. ...also, Cinnamon and Cloves are along the same line of natural defence. You might just piss em' off. If you spray them with that take a look in the magnifier and see if they're all flipping you off, or choking. I've seen the little pnks give me the finger.
Makes Hulk ANGRY!!!! hahaha. good luck man.
 
lavendar said:
HEY CO...
WAIT...we can use epson salts to remedy something in the soil...dont remember what, but find out first...it may mess with the ph or .....anyway, you may want to look that up....lavendar
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Yea lav if you use to much it creates salt build-up on the leaves(learned this from previous sprays with epsom salts) but it is my understanding that a small amount is almost like D-Earth cutting exoskeletons and such, Although i'm pretty sure you're right bout the PH thing I remeber reading that somewere to I'll have to look around :reading420magazine: they look good this morning though no activity & thank you for the warning def don't want to hurt em while tryin to help em:bongrip:
Woodsman said:
Hey Dude! Man it's been so long since I've come and visited with you that my link from my emails took me to your thread, 4 pages back the other way for crying out loud! Hopefully you'll forgive me and let me catch up at least? In fact just to show you haw far back I was, here's a post I found back there that caught my eye





Man I'm thinking 'Man, the guys are talking about 200lb woman sitting on midgets!' I'm not into that stuff personally. Nice to see you cover a wide range of topics. :rasta:

I'll be trying to catch up bro! I'll swim there! :surf:
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haha whats up woodsy good to have you through again my brother ,and that was a while back haha I think papa said he was gonna name his next random indica 200lb midget porn after that convo haha, take your time catchin up man and let me know whatcha think :bong:
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Usually remedies will use spices man, I think yours are going to create co2 haha
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that would be cool I'm down with extra CO2 last time i made a remedy like that i used mint leaves ground, cayyene, & rosemary and it did'nt help at all I think they liked it lol
jasonlee247 said:
I dunno, I think Lavendars right about the Salts. The Rosemary is a deturrent I think, but not sure. ...also, Cinnamon and Cloves are along the same line of natural defence. You might just piss em' off. If you spray them with that take a look in the magnifier and see if they're all flipping you off, or choking. I've seen the little pnks give me the finger.
Makes Hulk ANGRY!!!! hahaha. good luck man.
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whats up brotha I Think lav is right bout the soil to but this was strictly foliar and only 12oz of spray bottle was used & the salts were not dissovled in the solution at all just seeped so IDK if it's gonna effect the soil, I sure hope not though as they look great this morning no activity or webbage :thumb: I think rosemary extract is the main ingredient in that SNS-217 product and I've heard some great things bout that stuff so that were i got hte idea lol, I'm gonna have to try cinnamon and cloves tmmrw I got those at the house :thankyou: and when I looked at the little bastards after I sprayed they were choking as if Lou had his hands as tight as possible round there skeevy little necks haha:ganjamon:
 
ok co...
sounds like you're in control....i can tell you what will work, but it is gross....do you know any one who chews tobacco? have them save their spit and mix it with water, and spray daily....really works well and you can see at the same time how poisonous tabacco is; at least processed like it is....i tried this, and it works like a charm....after they're gone a while, spray down with clean water to rinse off....but not for about 3 wks...and spray that long also...lavendar
 
lavendar said:
ok co...
sounds like you're in control....i can tell you what will work, but it is gross....do you know any one who chews tobacco? have them save their spit and mix it with water, and spray daily....really works well and you can see at the same time how poisonous tabacco is; at least processed like it is....i tried this, and it works like a charm....after they're gone a while, spray down with clean water to rinse off....but not for about 3 wks...and spray that long also...lavendar
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thanks for the tip lav and I don't mind it cuz i used to chew before i began smoking(big tobacco are the biggest drug dealers on the planet;)) & my little bro chews so i'll have him save his spit, ewww haha, so just spray for three weeks then rinse eh? sounds promising thanks again lav:thumb:do you think it will change the flavor of my budz?
 
COmmjDude said:
thanks for the tip lav and I don't mind it cuz i used to chew before i began smoking(big tobacco are the biggest drug dealers on the planet;)) & my little bro chews so i'll have him save his spit, ewww haha, so just spray for three weeks then rinse eh? sounds promising thanks again lav:thumb:do you think it will change the flavor of my budz?
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noooo, but dont spray on buds....use it on veg. mite problem....i think i diluted it half and half with water....like i said it really works....and totally got rid of the mites and eggs...but you have to be consistant....maybe the nicotine paralyses them...i know it does that to human nerves...be sure to rinse good before you bud, after that, youre stuck with the spit on the plant...later, lavendar:peace::rollit: oh yeah, i think i would try it on a leaf or two on the bottom on each plant to make sure they arnt really sensitive to it....better to be safe than sorry...imo...
 
lavendar said:
noooo, but dont spray on buds....use it on veg. mite problem....i think i diluted it half and half with water....like i said it really works....and totally got rid of the mites and eggs...but you have to be consistant....maybe the nicotine paralyses them...i know it does that to human nerves...be sure to rinse good before you bud, after that, youre stuck with the spit on the plant...later, lavendar:peace::rollit: oh yeah, i think i would try it on a leaf or two on the bottom on each plant to make sure they arnt really sensitive to it....better to be safe than sorry...imo...
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cool will do thanks again lav:ganjamon:
 
Harvest Update(Cabinet Plant)
Bud pics trimmed back I will chop her in the mornin
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I'll post her chopped up tmmrw thanks for stoppin by:surf:

 
Good you get to chop some! Enjoy!

As far as your room and bugs - I would stop fucking around. I'm not sure how far along all your others are, but its almost time to bomb the hell out of the room for a week or two. Might mean starting a new crop.

As far as epsom salts and pH and salt buildup:

Epsom salts are not an actual salt, which would kill all vegetation it came in contact with. Epsom salts are magnesium sulfate which increases the magnesium nutrients of the soil and increases sulfur that reduces pH.


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Ha! well there you go on the epsome salts. I think he's right about the mites. just nuke em and hopefully be done with it.

P.S. what strain is that little plant?
 
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