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[Canyon]

Thanks for stopping by Rad,

The plant is probably root bound. I cut it down tonight. Tomorrow I will get a picture of the roots. As I recall, it was up pot or flower it. It was not going to be anywhere near the plant that the other GTH was going to be. Maybe I could have nursed it to two ounces if I held it another month and flowered it with the larger GTH. Mostly I just wanted to find out if the plant was worth keeping in rotation. As good as it is, that depends on what the larger one is like. At least one is going to be a keeper, yield be damned.

Most of my plastic pots are a line MalWart had for a few years. I have them from about a quart through 5 gallon. Those are about 3.5 to 4 gallons.

The 5 gallon ones were too large to up pot from without chancing damage. I mostly use the 5 gallons for plant stands or to finish a smaller plant. The black plastic ones are #10 and #15 pots, 6 or 7 gal for the small and about 12 gal for the #15.

I like the way you have your rotation set up over at your place. I keep getting gaps with mine. it is feast for a while then whatever is left for a while.

Best

 

[Radogast]

I like the way you have your rotation set up over at your place. I keep getting gaps with mine. it is feast for a while then whatever is left for a while.

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So far I've only filled 3 of 4 slots in the flower area. In a couple of weeks Ihave to decide between growing out a pair of 2 oz plants, or vegging out the leaders and face a feast (a baby boom bubble) in about a month. I told myself no more plants under 2 oz, so ...
um ...
Yeah,, I've got it all running smooth as a baby's bottom. Slick as water on a ducks back... yeah... That's the ticket...
My rotation is all set up

 

[Canyon]

The dwarf was not root bound like I expected to find.

I am getting curious about how much of a market there is for long flowering bonsai photo period plants.

 

[Morglie]

The dwarf was not root bound like I expected to find.

I am getting curious about how much of a market there is for long flowering bonsai photo period plants.

If the smokes what I want, I'll grow bonsai plants all day if that's the way they grow. It looks like the roots were really under developed. Do you do the wet/dry cycle with your plants? That should help get the plants maximized in your pots.

 

[Canyon]

Morglie,

I strive for dry pot to dry pot, especially in veggie, or at least light pot to light pot.

I don't submerse drench when I water. The pots I have came with a small reservoir attached to the pot. I drill two holes through the pot and reservoir near the edge and opposite each other. I keep a saucer under the plants.

In veggie with a dry pot I will wet the top with enough water to swell the soil some and wait a few minutes. Then I add a good amount top and bottom until the saucer stabilizes with some water in it. After an hour or so I tip the pot to drain the last of the extra water and put it on a dry saucer.

With any pots too heavy to move wet I just try to not have too much extra water in the saucer when I have finished watering. If the plant is taking up a lot of water, an inch in a saucer is not a big deal. Otherwise, it is a good idea to mop up the extra.

After the first watering in flower I try keep the top of the root mat from getting too dry and the bottom of the pot from staying wet.

Most of the time I win.

 

[SweetSue]

That's a good thing that most of the time you win. I started using slightly less water per drench in flower and do them more often. I started doing that after listening to Doc describe how he handles his in flower, and so far it's working out marvelously. It's based on a standard of 1 to 1.25 gallons of water for a 7 gallon pot, split between top and bottom.

Previously I used more water per drench in an effort to completely saturate the rootball and went a few days longer between drenches. This way I get more drenches in and I think the plants appreciate it. It also allowed me to stick to the rhythm of two plain waters between each drench. I think the plants appreciate that most of all.

 

[Radogast]

I was not expecting such a small and delicate rootball.

Maybe this strain is a dwarf because it just doesn't try to grow roots - odd.

 

[Morglie]

Morglie,

I strive for dry pot to dry pot, especially in veggie, or at least light pot to light pot.

I don't submerse drench when I water. The pots I have came with a small reservoir attached to the pot. I drill two holes through the pot and reservoir near the edge and opposite each other. I keep a saucer under the plants.

In veggie with a dry pot I will wet the top with enough water to swell the soil some and wait a few minutes. Then I add a good amount top and bottom until the saucer stabilizes with some water in it. After an hour or so I tip the pot to drain the last of the extra water and put it on a dry saucer.

With any pots too heavy to move wet I just try to not have too much extra water in the saucer when I have finished watering. If the plant is taking up a lot of water, an inch in a saucer is not a big deal. Otherwise, it is a good idea to mop up the extra.

After the first watering in flower I try keep the top of the root mat from getting too dry and the bottom of the pot from staying wet.

Most of the time I win.

That sounds like a good plan there. Maybe it's the pots with the built in catch pans. I have a few of them and my root balls don't get as big in them either. I've chalked it up to not letting them dry enough, but maybe it's the reservoir. The tap root might find that and stop saturating the pot with auxillary roots.
I'm in the process of phasing them out as I realized that 5 gallon buckets take up the same circumference, but hold twice as much dirt. That may cause the plants themselves to not fit in the same area, as they should get significantly bigger, but I don't necessarily look at that as a bad thing.

Keep up the good work.

Peace

 

[Canyon]

Rad, Morglie,
These two GTH seeds have had about as good of a side by side comparison as you can get in a home grow. She just had not filled the pot.

The dwarf probably should be called a midget. Even the tric heads are small. Throughout her growth, she has looked healthy, just small. She is probably one tenth the size or the larger one, though I did veggie the regular one a month longer than the midget.

The air is so dry hear, I jarred the little plant today. It came in at 27g and a little less than a pint, or, 0.11 gram per day of plant life. I have had better yields. [;>)

The only bud I have had tested came in at 27% THC and this plant has noticeably more kick with a nicer high.

I never know

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[AKgramma]

The dwarf was not root bound like I expected to find.

I am getting curious about how much of a market there is for long flowering bonsai photo period plants.

I'm discovering, from lots of experience with really ugly harvests, that it isn't how pretty or large the plant is at harvest, but the potency of the bud. The mini-buds can be used in cannabudder, ground for joints, or powdered for herbs in cooking. My dregs, including the leaves are pretty potent. I think its about the strain and a good cure.

Waste not, want not.

 

[Canyon]

Thanks AK,

With more flowering time I should be able to bring the yield up with this phenotype or whatever you want to call it. It is not like it takes up a lot of space.

The larger plant is showing new bud swelling and some new hairs. The aroma is getting stronger. It has about another month of flower time. It is only 44 days past flip now and I am so tempted to sample a bud. By now I have usually managed to break something off while working in the small flower room.

I never know

 

[Morglie]

Thanks AK,

With more flowering time I should be able to bring the yield up with this phenotype or whatever you want to call it. It is not like it takes up a lot of space.

The larger plant is showing new bud swelling and some new hairs. The aroma is getting stronger. It has about another month of flower time. It is only 44 days past flip now and I am so tempted to sample a bud. By now I have usually managed to break something off while working in the small flower room.

I never know

It would be a great cut for someone running a micro grow. One of those pc case grows.

 

[Canyon]

Yesterday GSC got a Recharge, 3/4qt EWC and 10g Roots in 1/2 gal of Kit mix top dressed and scratched in. Then, 1 gal Kit soil on top and 2 gallons of GE at 3ml /g + Tea at 0.5/g.

Extreme was topped and cloned 3/29. Nightmare cookies was topped and cloned today. Both were drenched with GE + Tea yesterday.

They are looking happy. Tomorrow I will Brix them.

Best

 

[SweetSue]

Yesterday GSC got a Recharge, 3/4qt EWC and 10g Roots in 1/2 gal of Kit mix top dressed and scratched in. Then, 1 gal Kit soil on top and 2 gallons of GE at 3ml /g + Tea at 0.5/g.

Extreme was topped and cloned 3/29. Nightmare cookies was topped and cloned today. Both were drenched with GE + Tea yesterday.

They are looking happy. Tomorrow I will Brix them.

Best

I keep forgetting to Brix. I have this big calendar and I still forget to do foliars. Something about the foliars that my brain just overlooks, and I understand how important they are with the kit, so I keep coming at it again.

This batch of plants is doing better than my last. Time for you to post some pretty pictures of your own girls Canyon. Surprise me. I'll be back.



Oh yeah..... Thanks for the thorough documentation of the Recharge topdressing. That comes in real handy.

 

[SweetSue]

The dwarf was not root bound like I expected to find.

I am getting curious about how much of a market there is for long flowering bonsai photo period plants.

I'm discovering, from lots of experience with really ugly harvests, that it isn't how pretty or large the plant is at harvest, but the potency of the bud. The mini-buds can be used in cannabudder, ground for joints, or powdered for herbs in cooking. My dregs, including the leaves are pretty potent. I think its about the strain and a good cure.

Waste not, want not.

Longer cure = increased potency. I've started leaving most of the popcorn buds on. They seem to get more trichomes, down there beneath the canopy,

and I suspect the oil mix in them may be a bit more exotic, though I've no way to prove that. But they strip off easily when dry and fill jars of usable product.

Leave no cannabinoid behind.

 

[Canyon]

I keep forgetting to Brix. I have this big calendar and I still forget to do foliars. Something about the foliars that my brain just overlooks, and I understand how important they are with the kit, so I keep coming at it again.

This batch of plants is doing better than my last. Time for you to post some pretty pictures of your own girls Canyon. Surprise me. I'll be back.



Oh yeah..... Thanks for the thorough documentation of the Recharge topdressing. That comes in real handy.

Somehow I have stayed on schedule with the Brix.

As for the documentation, the GSC needed more soil. I had no idea how much EWC Doc is saying to add. I just went with a little less than I may have if it was not my first Kit plant in flower. Mixing Amendment and EWC in a little soil seemed like the natural thing to do. She did not complain so all is good.

The Recharge was early but the plant had been in her final pot for about 60 days.

You have or have on order CBD Shark Shock. The one I posted on one of your threads is coming down in the next day or so. I tried a small bud this morning that broke off moving things around and it was a nice soft high that I remembered from some dispensary flower I bought. I suspect your daughter would like it. Most cuts have moderately more CBD than THC, circa 10/8.

I have been trying to add more CBD into what I consume.

This plant was flowered soon after I had a clone of it to see if it was a keeper. I will probably keep it.

Early flower

Flip + 52 Not the best shot,I will try to get an outdoor one of her when I take her down.

 

[Canyon]

My replacement seed order finally shipped last week. It is in La. now.

Today I was moving some plants around so I took these.

This is Nightmare Cookies. She went into flower today at 54". The only training was one topping 7 days ago.

Bondage, the normal Ghost Train did the weak branch droop like the dwarf. She is at flip + 51.

This one is Extreme at 54". She was topped 9 days ago. I decided to do some supper cropping on her after this picture.

GSC at flip + 15

Yesterday I cut the CBD Shark Shock. This is a little better picture of her. It may be dry enough to weigh tomorrow. It is not going to be much.

 

[Canyon]

Is the Cat Drench mixed the same as the Growth Energy? It is not on the label and I do not have it in my notes.

I never know.

Best

 

[Radogast]

Is the Cat Drench mixed the same as the Growth Energy? It is not on the label and I do not have it in my notes.

I never know.

Best

I always look in Doc's signature How To Use The Hi-Brix Kit

Doc recommends same strength as GE in 7 gal pot (5-15ml per plant.)

So far I've just done 5ml per plant in however much water.


GSC looks ready for her 2 cat drenches

 

[SweetSue]

Is the Cat Drench mixed the same as the Growth Energy? It is not on the label and I do not have it in my notes.

I never know.

Best

I do mine at about the same strength as Rad, mixed just the same way as the other drenches. Graytail taught me to do the drenches and Tea as separate additions, so I always end with Tea, steeped in about 12 ounces of water while I apply the drench. That's when I do drenches, which is every third watering.