The Butcher Pride

Dang. Congrats bro :bravo: On the real its well deserved, you're a great member and you can grow your ass off. Not to mention Slaughterhouse Seeds is about to pop off. Pfffft, you're doin it dude. :thumb:


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Well You are fantastic Member! You, who stops by EVERYONES journal (how do you do that?) and quick to help with great insight when needed. You are always full of praise and always in great spirits. We love you Butcher! Great Job. Many, Many More to come 4 sure! :bravo:
 
COmmjDude said:
its all good OMM i'm workin with a space about three times smaller then i would like it to be:smokin2: i guess we all have some select thing we would like to improve upon or try with our grow:popcorn: at least you have endless summer there in HW never have to worry bout indoor lights :cool:
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Hi COommjDude I wish it were that simple. If put them outside, they immediately go to 12/12. In other words that would mean flowering from ground zero. If nothing else I try to get them get them at least 1' tall before they go outside. Of course, 2 or 3 ' would be even better. So I do have to worry about lights after all. I have two not so good boxes inside with CFLs for veg. If I grew nothing but short auto flowering plants it would be perfect,
but the yield would be low. When I started my first grow here I was forced to think things though a bit better.:thumb:
 
Hey thanx guys/gals..I cant stress that enough .I honestly never thought when I first started, that 420 would be part of my everyday life. Litterally!! I check in everyday, and if I cant for some reason I always try to run threw at least 1 journal.

BIG THANK YOU TO THE WHOLE 420famz!!

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OldMedMan said:
Hi COommjDude I wish it were that simple. If put them outside, they immediately go to 12/12. In other words that would mean flowering from ground zero. If nothing else I try to get them get them at least 1' tall before they go outside. Of course, 2 or 3 ' would be even better. So I do have to worry about lights after all. I have two not so good boxes inside with CFLs for veg. If I grew nothing but short auto flowering plants it would be perfect,
but the yield would be low. When I started my first grow here I was forced to think things though a bit better.:thumb:
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OMM heres an article I found for you concerning the matter.:

It is ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL that you synch your indoor light cycle with the natural outside light cycle before you move them outside. If you do not they will start to flower immediately, not grow, and could get seriously fucked up and not recover. Never do plants under a 24 hour light cycle if they are going to go outside. For example if your plants are under a 18/6 cycle, and you put them out in April when the natural light cycle is at 14/10 they will start to flower. Since the days are getting longer, the plant will get confused, try to go back into veg and not finish flowering. Going back and forth like this is REALLY bad for the plant and I have seen them not grow again for months after this happens to them.

You need to figure out what the length of the days are when you want to put your plants outside for your location. Let's say you want to put them out on May 1st when the days are 15 hours long. If you have your clones under an 18/6 cycle that means you need to reduce the light cycle by three hours before they go outside. The natural light cycle changes by 15 minutes a week which is what you want to replicate. So, since I want to be at 15 hours of light indoor by May 1st, that means by the first week of February I need to start reducing the light cycle indoor by 15 minutes a week. If I start this in February I will be down to 15 hours by May 1st and the plants will not go into shock when I move them outside.

DO NOT RUSH THIS PROCESS OR YOU WILL REGRET IT. The absolute fastest you can adjust plants is one hour a week but this is a little rough on them. For example I was gifted some clones early last summer when the days were 15 hours long and the clones had been grown under a 18/6 cycle. I ran them for one week at 17/7, one week at 16/8, and one week at 15/9, then put them outside and they did OK.

You need to be sure the plants are hardened off before they go outside too. Natural sunlight is far more powerful than even the best indoor grow light and you can burn the crap out of them if you are not careful. Always put your clones under shade cloth or something like that when you first put them outside so they can get used to the more intense light. If the leaves feel "soft" at all they are not ready yet.
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Hope this helps you.:ganjamon:
 
The Butcher said:


OMM heres an article I found for you concerning the matter.:



Hope this helps you.:ganjamon:
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Hi Butcher Thanks I made copy of the article and will use it as a reference.
However it was just down right depressing for me.:smokin2: This is exactly the same thing I faced in my first grow. I started the plants for this next grow at 18/6. They weren't doing anything, so they are at 24/0 right now.
Controlling the lights is not my problem. My problem is this room has no ventilation and it will always be that way because I cannot make changes to the room. I have all the windows open, so I get fresh air in, but here is no way to exhaust it, other than a window fan I have. Right now it is 89 degrees in my boxes with every fan on. I could turn on my air conditioner, as I did last year, but truthfully it really didn't help and added $250.00 to my already expensive light bill and I cannot afford that this year. I'll write more after while. I have to go right now. Thank you Butcher.
 
Hi again Butcher Now, I'm not sure what to do. Cancel the grow altogether or just throw them out there see what happens. That article just brought me back to the reality of what I am trying to do and I don't feel with the conditions and equipment I have that its possible. The first part of my last grow was so stressful on me, I'm not sure of I want go through that again. That article was just too much reality for me. I'm so depressed I'm headed to bed to put my head under my pillow and hide for for a while. It just pulled the carpet out from under my feet. Maybe tomorrow, I can think more clearly. C U OMM
 
Omm..never meant to have you bummed about the article. My apologies. One thing you vcan try is since you have them @ 24/0 switch them to 18/6 one week, then next week switch them to 16/8 that way when they go outside they can get adjusted to a 14/10 schedule by week 2 outside, they in theory, should still be in veg and adjusted to their new veg light period. I just had a thought O.k so you got a box set up w/ a high temp issue,right. One way to help bring a lil more balance to the box is to suppliment Co2. You could always do a small sugar and yeast DIY Co2.for the time you have them veggin. Which shouldn't be long if your hardening them off. And the cost of sugar and yeast is less expensive then electricity back on the islands. Hope one of these ideas can work.:goodluck:
 
The Butcher said:
Omm..never meant to have you bummed about the article. My apologies. One thing you vcan try is since you have them @ 24/0 switch them to 18/6 one week, then next week switch them to 16/8 that way when they go outside they can get adjusted to a 14/10 schedule by week 2 outside, they in theory, should still be in veg and adjusted to their new veg light period. I just had a thought O.k so you got a box set up w/ a high temp issue,right. One way to help bring a lil more balance to the box is to suppliment Co2. You could always do a small sugar and yeast DIY Co2.for the time you have them veggin. Which shouldn't be long if your hardening them off. And the cost of sugar and yeast is less expensive then electricity back on the islands. Hope one of these ideas can work.:goodluck:
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Hi Butcher Well, I did go to sleep and slept my usual 3 hours, but it did help my frame of mind. That really sent me into a tailspin. Now that I have thought about things, I'm back to normal and crazy again. I did it once and I can do it again.:ganjamon:
I will follow your advise above and I am sure it will help, Thank You,
Your a true friend. If you want to be amazed and frightened look at my summary of my last grow in my journal. I really did some dumb things but still had what I call a successful grow. I hope I have as much luck in my next one.:cheertwo:
 
your always going to be crazy..:rofl:..thats what make Omm Old Med Man. I honestly think that the diy co2 would help out w/ the high temps. The supplimented co2 will help with the high tranpiration rate that is needed w/ higher temps, giving you a buffer. I really hope it helps.
 
^ and it will make them grow faster,

but you room will stink like sour beer. lol. i've done it before. . . just keep adding sugar, and you'll be good for a month at a time. so two mixes/harvest isn't so bad. . .

these numbers were for a 5 gal water dispenser jug w/ yeast and white sugar.
 
Thanks for chimming in wheel. I think he'll only have to use it til their hardened off to go outside. About 4 weeks. I'm thinking for his bo,x maybe a bathroom fan on the top. To allow for circulation and venting. wont need ducting if theres an open door or window.
 
So heres the last picts of my outdoor before Harvest this evening. Enjoy:

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Wow. Idk kno wat to say. Im tryna think of a sugar or snow compliment, but looking at the trichs made my mind go blank.

OD trichs bro. :adore::adore::bravo::bravo:
 
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